How do you think Labour will treat disabled claimants if, as seems increasingly likely, they form the next government?  Will they be better or worse than the Conservatives?

Last week’s Labour party manifesto left our readers divided on what the future might be like for disabled claimants under Labour.  The document made few references to benefits and gave no clues as to what its attitude would be to major issues such as ESA to UC migration, proposed Green paper changes to PIP or how exactly the WCA might be reformed.

Many readers felt that Labour was just being cautious, because any hint of being soft on claimants would be jumped on by the right-wing press.

Others thought that Labour were saying little because they do not have anything positive to say to disability benefits claimants.  Some think there is little difference between the two parties and some commentors even believe that Labour would be worse news for claimants than the Conservatives.

Certainly, the manifesto could have offered some hope to, for example Carer’s Allowance claimants. A change to the current cliff edge earnings limit would not have major cost implications.

And, to ensure claimant safety, Labour could have offered to look again at the very tight ESA to UC migration deadline imposed on the DWP by the Conservatives.  Delaying the transfer would not cost anything, given that it was previously delayed to 2028 to save money.

Labour could also have stated in the manifesto that they would look at the Green paper proposals for PIP, but that it was unlikely that a voucher system or a catalogue would play any part in any future plans.  Again, this would not have had cost implications.

None of these undertakings would have offered much in the way of ammunition to the right wing press, but all of them would have reassured claimants that Labour would give them some respite from the current relentless attacks.

On the other hand, no part of Labour’s plans include cutting benefits in order to raise cash for other purposes, such as tax cuts.

And, whilst they have said they will replace or reform the WCA, they have not suggested that they will reform PIP.

So, if benefits will play a major part in deciding who you will vote for, readers will have to make an educated guess as to what Labour might do based on minimal information.

Knowing what other claimants are thinking may be helpful in reaching a decision.

So, please take part in our poll to tell us whether you think life would be easier, harder or much the same under Labour rather than the Conservatives and, if you wish, give your reasons in the comments section below.

You can only vote once and we’ll publish the results on Monday 1 July.

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    · 6 months ago
    Labour’s plan to give more power to the unions & other sectors which will need to be paid for will come partly from benefits & taxes. We will lose either way. If they planned on increasing benefits they would be shouting about it!
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    · 6 months ago
    I think Labour will be just as harsh as the Tories.  It was their government after all which started the medical checks and 'review' of disability claimants, initially supposedly once every 3 years, but as anyone claiming PIP will know that is not the reality and 'reviews' can and do take place more frequently than this with the ensuing stress for the claimant who is about to meet a so called medical professional who often knows nowt about the claimants condition and in any event has a set number of rejections target to meet.  Hence the higher number of of PIP awards on appeal. 
    I agree with other commentators that Labour will be overwhelmed with many important issues to deal with not least balancing the books, so they will look at every possible avenue to slash public spending including disability benefits and at the same time increase revenue by increasing/introducing new taxes, woe betide if you have any savings, a car or your own home (especially if you are planning downsizing to something more suitable for disabilities) as they seem to be looking at introducing, amongst other new taxes, capital gains tax when you sell your own home, more taxes on your state pension etc. I won't be voting for Labour or the Tories.
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    · 6 months ago
    There's no sign that Labour will reform the DWP and change the culture that drives claimants to despair. Whereas the Tories say the bill is unsustainable, the cat's out of the bag when they say they want to use savings from benefit cuts to pay for tax cuts. Meanwhile none of the parties have much to say about the true cost of Covid.  Disabled people are already at breaking point. It's a false economy if the result of taking away peoples independence is to make them even more unwell and adding to the pressure on the health and care services. It's morally evil and economically incontinent to advance policies that attack the most vulnerable to entice so-called taxpayers with tax cuts paid for by human misery. Shameful. As ATOS goes bust, nothing short of root and branch reform and the abolition of the Department of Works and Pensions.
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    · 6 months ago
    Labour are clueless about anything but they are getting the ideas off the Conservatives regarding the disabled 
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    · 6 months ago
    Thanks to you for comparing manifestos.
    Based on this be voting Green.
    As regards who are worse Tory or Labour little between them.
    People at the bottom poorer under Blair than Thatcher.
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    · 6 months ago
    Labour will be harder on benefit claimants. The amount of vitriol and hatred towards benefit claimants is high amongst many people who resent others receiving benefits of any kind. Labour will implement a harsh regime to prove they are 'tougher' about implementing harsh new laws against disabled people While other minority groups are rightly protected under the law it is 'Open season' for some of the most vulnerable people in society who suffer from physical and mental illness. In this present system, the election is being driven by 'Sound bite' narratives a case of "We can be harder than you".Keir Starmer should remember his roots, after all, he was an International Human Rights Lawyer.What about the rights of the disabled in your own country Mr Starmer.!
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    · 6 months ago
    Labour/cons.   ... it's all about the money.
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    · 6 months ago
    It feels like a "lesser of evils" and rather depressing choice to vote Labour purely out of the abject fear I have about Conservative plans going forward. I feel Rishi Sunak has tried to shame and vilify claimants due to what's being said in focus groups, to try to pull in voters from the right. The Conservatives obviously feel more populist policies will wrench votes back from losing them to Reform.

    I feel that Labour are shifting to the right on benefits policies because they are hearing the same comments in focus groups, and hence are targeting swing voters. Propaganda against claimants goes back long before I was born (I'm almost 49), and we are scapegoats in tougher economic times, just as migrants are also. I feel Labour will marginally be a better choice of government for claimants, but I still find past rhetoric - plus the added obscurity in the manifesto - concerning.

    I have only ever voted Labour out of desperation to keep the Tories out, even though they have no chance in my constituency. On principle, I vote Green, because they are actually progressive in so many ways and my wishful hope is for a society that shows compassion for its most vulnerable.
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    · 6 months ago
    I think Labour will be slightly less harsh, but I also think they will take the same attitude to getting people into work, even those of us who are disabled.

    But like the Conservatives I also think they will miss the main point, and that is it is ok wanting disabled people who can work finding employment, but I am afraid it will cost more than Labour think it will, the real issue is employers, who do not want disabled people when there are perfectly able-bodied persons available.

    The other point conservatives used the Rhetoric "Make work pay" and then cut benefits and that is all it was a benefit cost cutting program wrapped up in rhetoric.

     pay increases have been so far behind the cost-of-living crisis, it is unbelievable that employers and government are being unrealistic in what pay increases are needed we are 25% above what costs were in 2021/2022 and that really needs balancing somehow, prices are not going to drop by 25%, many people are struggling but the poorest have been hit the hardest and that is something the government needs to look at seriously, as our society is not working for the poorest, we should be looking at what people should earn to be a full member of our society, living and having a home and paying the bills without benefits and that then should be the eventual target, our society should be inclusive to all, not exclusive .

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    · 6 months ago
    Labour brought in zero hour contracts, and food banks,
    It doesn't matter who gets in they only look after themselves 
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    · 6 months ago
    I won’t be voting either as we mean nothing to the big  people!
    I am pretty appalled at the way disabled people are being treated.
    I am not wasting my fuel money on voting for  people who treat others so badly!

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    · 6 months ago
    I don’t trust them to care. Currently people need PIP to help pay their bills. 
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    · 6 months ago
    If any party were serious about costs then they could address the wastage and duplication in the system instead of punishing the most vulnerable for government fiscal mismanagement. You never hear about a genuinely improved process do you! The pip form is ridiculous and yet 5 letters on and they've still not got my address right
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    · 6 months ago
    Labour started welfare reform 
    They are no friends of disabled people
    The present mob are right wing so very concerned about the future 
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    · 6 months ago
    I believe Labour will leave the plans set out by the tories as they are. I honestly think they will leave the PIP voucher/grant scheme presented by Mel stride as is and allow the plans to continue through parliament.
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    · 6 months ago
    I'm no less afraid of any of them to be honest.  I am disabled.  Whoever is in power is in control.  I try to expect as little as possible and just hope for the best. Sorry to be so negative but the manifestoes don't tell you much because they never stick to them in office and if there is any kind of national crisis the disabled are used as a sort of slush fund just like "waste in government departments".  We need to be ever elastic to the money and ever grateful if we get any help.   Autonomy is a fantasy. Fear is the status quo!
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    · 6 months ago
    Labour are not ideologically opposed to supporting vulnerable people as the Tories are. The Tories always expect charities to be available to support stressed communities, Labour acknowledge that the State has a responsibility towards supporting those same communities. It’s always about the deserving and undeserving poor with the Tories - with Tory supporters making those decisions; three steps away from the work house under the Tories.
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    · 6 months ago
    No matter which party is in power they will cut all welfare benefits as a matter of course in order to shore up other promises they make. 
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    · 6 months ago
    Both parties have done very little for  disabled people, Covid was a prime example ,the very people who incurred higher costs through shielding were denied any financial support or increases
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    · 6 months ago
    I'm worried that their lack of clarity means they will be as harsh as the Conservatives. 

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