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I still qualify.  I won't hold my breath, but if l have to go to tribunal,  I have no doubt in my mind that I won't win ... 

Are there not three specific groups protected by case law already by the Supreme Court, is the Government is willing to fight this again?

Let's hope the Government are dragged through the High Courts repeatedly on these proposals.

If the high court ruled the Conservatives changes to the work capability assessment were unlawful then shouldn't Starmer, Reeves and Kendall already be starting their jail sentences! Surely these changes can't just go through without being challenged. Something as just got to be done.

I do not know what I would do without the immense support from this website. Commendations should be given to the people who work behind the scenes to make this website so informative, helpful and for given such excellent support in trying to protect and uphold the rights of all disabled citizens in the UK. I disagree with the proposed changes to the contributions based benefit system for people like myself who paid into it for so many years and to be looked after by the state as Im too ill to work. Though all disabled people are entitled to be treated with fairness and respect and have a  decent income to live on. The fraudulent statistics are very low for most  benefits. 

It occurs to me that the 4 point requirement for should be for a middle group and the current 8 points left for the standard group as it is. This should be part of the consultation and be brought up with MPs and others to vary the green paper and the bill when it goes forward

On a side note, does anyone know how long before a pip claim runs out is it before they start the reassessment process?  It used to be a year, but has that changed more recently? 

ESA to uc further update:about halfway threw the migration now the stories are true I used to read about its awful and complex nobody knows what they are doing the call centre staff are rude unhelpful and don’t speak English journal messages are not answered it’s stress deadlines and jumping threw hoops communication is poor it’s just a nightmare you don’t know who these agents are so my advise is stay on esa as long as you can before migrating and enjoy the stress free time and the pip 2028 new health element I won’t qualify for that so 

I think it's important that we don't forget the consultation.  There are still a couple of important questions tucked away in there, and they could make a significant difference on our lives, particularly question 2:

What support do you think we could provide for those who will lose their Personal Independence Payment entitlement as a result of a new additional requirement to score at least 4 points on one daily living activity?

Again, please flood the MP's inboxes. We MUST apply pressure and not make this easy for them to vote into being.

Points reduced?

How can we trust that they won't deliberately mark us down from past questions/scores , what's stopping them giving us a 2 when we'd normally get 4. It's not like they're the most honest of people.

From the ME association website:

So much confusion about Contribution-based ESA and the new Unemployment Insurance any new information on this B&W? Paragraph 54 of the green paper seems to point towards it just being time limited for new claimants. Appreciate all that you're doing for us.  

I’ve got an award until 2028, so due to me not getting any 4 points does this mean I’ll lose my PIP in Nov 2026?

For me this is another question answering honestly i would get more on pip than i currently do on dla so do i wait to be "invited" to apply or just jump in and claim pip now risk losing my dla 

Email sent to my MP today: 

Having read this week's Green Paper on welfare benefits, I am appalled and alarmed that disabled people such as my husband are being treated with such brutality by this government. I would implore and urge you to stand up for disabled people such as my husband.

The proposed changes would be financially devastating for us. My husband, and hundreds of thousands of people like him, suffers a range of symptoms due to his neurological disorder, but would not qualify for PIP due to the proposed requirement to score 4 points in one category. The proposals would also exclude him from the UC health element. I would lose the carers element of UC.

My husband’s difficulties affect him so significantly that he would be unable to manage employment, however much support is offered. His significant fatigue, to mention just one symptom, will not be ameliorated no matter how understanding the employer or how much advice and support is offered by a work coach.

Disability is expensive. Disability is not a life choice! What future for us as a family with two young children? How will we keep a roof over our heads and food on the table, as we pay for the extra medication, transport and heating that my husband needs? I do my best to provide through my own low-paid NHS employment, but we would face an uphill battle without welfare support. And what if I were to become sick? He would still not qualify for PIP or UC health.

Disabled people face barriers at every turn. They have not chosen disability. Our health and social care system is a mess. Relatives acting as carers will be expected to pick up the pieces of these changes, with the financial rug pulled out from under them. In the context of the Assisted Dying proposals, the government should be absolutely ashamed to be treating disabled people with such cruelty. Many will feel there is nothing left for them, that they are a burden on society, and they will be prey to those who would coerce them towards an early end.

The consultation questions offer no opportunity to oppose these plans, and therefore the consultation does not offer a voice for the concerns of disabled people at all. The government has chosen not even to consult on many important elements of their plans.

This is an urgent matter, as I have no doubt that moves towards legislation will happen very soon. As our MP, please take a stand against this. We voted for you as a Liberal Democrat, as we believed the party had the interests of disabled people and their carers at heart. We have no power and we rely on you to represent us. 

Have just written to my mp again and my GP. I thought it wise to ensure my notes were up to date. I've updated them in the details of my disabilities. Diagnosis are one thing. The symptoms and side effects they aren't always aware of. I thought I'd let them know and asked for it to be added to my notes. 

Gives me a minimum of six 4 pointers and several above. 

This would be devastating for us. My husband would lose PIP daily living, and so the UC health element. I would lose the carer element of UC. Our children would suffer because we would barely afford to live. My husband's prospects of employment would not change one iota. And this is in the context of legislation being debated on Assisted Dying. So many thousands of disabled people will hear our society's message loud and clear, that disabled people are a burden. This will make them vulnerable to coercion towards assisted dying. I will email my MP, who will likely ignore me as she has most other communications, and will engage with any other efforts to fight this brutality.