The Labour Party has published its manifesto today.  Astonishingly, its 136 pages provide not a single concrete action relating to welfare benefits – the issue has been almost entirely airbrushed from the document, leaving disabled claimants with no idea what Labour has in store for them.

The closest thing to an actionable idea relating to benefits is on page 78 of the manifesto, which says:

“Labour is committed to reviewing Universal Credit so that it makes work pay and tackles poverty. We want to end mass dependence on emergency food parcels, which is a moral scar on our society.”

So, a review will take place at some undefined time, but with no hint of whether the intention is to increase or reduce UC for disabled claimants, increase or reduce sanctions or anything else.

The document does say on page 42 that:

“We will tackle the backlog of Access to Work claims and give disabled people the confidence to start working without the fear of an immediate benefit reassessment if it does not work out. We believe the Work Capability Assessment is not working and needs to be reformed or replaced, alongside a proper plan to support disabled people to work.”

 But this tells readers nothing concrete. When will reform or replacement of the WCA happen and what form will it take? It sounds like Labour has no clear ideas on the subject, just a vague aspiration.

There is, though, the obligatory threat on page 42 to people who are not in work but, in the view of the Labour Party, should be:

“Labour will reform employment support so it drives growth and opportunity. Our system will be underpinned by rights and responsibilities – people who can work, should work – and there will be consequences for those who do not fulfil their obligations.”

On child poverty, the document says on page 79:

“Labour will develop an ambitious strategy to reduce child poverty. We will work with the voluntary sector, faith organisations, trade unions, business, devolved and local government, and communities to bring about change.”

This suggests that there is no intention to increase benefits payments related to children or to remove the two-child benefit cap introduced by the Tories in 2017, which has been such a driver of child poverty.

Aside from that, there is an undertaking to retain the triple lock for the state pension and a stern warning that Labour “will not tolerate fraud or waste anywhere, whether in social security or the excessive use of consultants”.

And that’s all we could find, please do tell us in the comments section if you discover anything else.

This is a cruel manifesto from the point of view of disabled claimants. 

The Conservatives put in motion some ferociously anti-disabled claimant plans, including moving forward the forced migration to universal credit, making the WCA harder to pass, consulting on replacing PIP with vouchers and spying on bank accounts.

But it will be Labour, not the Conservatives, who are virtually certain to be in charge of claimants’ fate after the election. 

Labour’s decision to give no hint of which Tory plans they will reject and which they will adopt will leave many claimants in a state of real distress for weeks to come.

You can download the Labour Party manifesto from this link.

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    diceman24 · 15 days ago
    hello all ive been going through peoples thoughts on this topic and can honestly say in my opinion on the pip benefit saga i think that labour will means test the pip benefit which would be alot easier to admin and control and i for one would be very happy to  means test the benefit rather to have vouchers. i suffer from several health issues one of them is progressive  muscular dystrophy plus scoliosis of the spine and i honestly believe that people with genuine disabliltys have nothing to worry about and worrying about what if and what will happen will only cause our health issues worse so everyone need to take a deep breathe and what will be will be thank you for taking your time to read this opinion of mine
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      Elizabeth Vidler · 13 days ago
      @diceman24 So what you are saying is that somebody like me will lose what remains of my benefit allowance, will have to work through my savings to pay for food and bills and then maybe when I am bankcrupt and possibly homeless I might be eligble to apply for PIP and U/C oh great, as I did work to get my own home along with my husband , but due to my health being utterely appalling had to give my job up, and so we would be penalised for that what a joy.
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      mrfibro · 14 days ago
      @CaroA Well call it unsettling, but we know whats going to happen to us, if the Tory rats hold onto power. I hope labour knocks 7 bells out of those Tories on voting day, and wipe that snidey  smirk of hunt's face.

      The country needs a change, that's for sure.  And if labour makes a lash up of it, they just need to do what the tories did to labour.  Simply put the blame on the party in control @ number 10.


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      MariW · 14 days ago
      @blandie @blandie Not necessarily. If PIP were absorbed into UC disabled working people who are eligible for UC could claim  PIP ... or whatever the DWP would  call it.
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      Boris1 · 14 days ago
      @diceman24 I wholly disagree with pip being means tested because a lot of genuinely disabled claimants will be penalised and lose money.
      I am on means tested esa and unlike people on universal credit I was not illegible for any of the cost of living payments so how is that fair because I worked so hard for years and paid taxes and NI
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      MariW · 14 days ago
      @diceman24 Means-testing diceman24 ? Income-related benefits are reduced if the claimant has more than £6000 and eligibility ceases at £16000. Life with major, lifelong disability is costly as you surely know. Hence PIP. The sums of money quoted wouldn't last long. What then? 

      I'm living on less than claimants on income-related benefits because I have a few savings. 

      Nothing to worry about? Any severely disabled person has had plenty to worry about for 14 years and there's no light at the end of the tunnel. 


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    Dosydora · 15 days ago
    What are the plans for over 66 on pip award
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      John · 12 days ago
      @Mr B As I mentioned earlier. But should repeat...

      Chapter 28 of the Green Paper reads.

      he consultation will focus on the main non-means tested benefit paid to adults of working age with disabilities and health conditions – Personal Independence Payment. Other extra costs benefits are not in scope for this consultation.

      From this It would appeared that senior citizens are not affected. This is not to say the rest of the heinous plans being proposed by the mega rich Tory devil's is in any way fair or reasonable!
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      John · 12 days ago
      @cyclist Yes. I have copied this from the Green paper...

      The consultation will focus on the main non-means tested benefit paid to adults of working age with disabilities and health conditions – Personal Independence Payment. Other extra costs benefits are not in scope for this consultation.

      From this It would appeared that senior citizens are not affected. This is not to say the rest of the heinous plans being proposed by the mega rich Tory devil's is in any way fair or reasonable!
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      mrfibro · 14 days ago
      @cyclist Yes it does.
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      mrfibro · 14 days ago
      @Dosydora I thought we'd all get a light touch, and get another 10 year award.
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      Lancs lurcher · 14 days ago
      @cyclist Correct. If claiming Pip before the age of 66 years of age, the benefit carries on with no further assessments 
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    MarkE47 · 15 days ago
    On page 43 they also state they plan to “devolve funding so local areas can shape a joined-up wok, health, and skills offer for local people.” Are we to read that as now disabled people have to worry about a postcode lottery of service levels and bankrupt council priorities? Sounds like a nightmare!
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      lesley · 13 days ago
      @MarkE47
      We don't want "joined up" anything!!!

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      Agent No.1 · 13 days ago
      @MarkE47 "Are we to read that as now disabled people have to worry about a postcode lottery of service levels"

      That will already be happening with the contracts that have been already handed out for tender to cover PIP assessments, areas will be covered by different companies now, there is a page on here from some time ago with the names and areas, but there is a new player in town, a company from Australia who will be covering PIP and WCA together in some areas, they are renowned as being worse than ATOS from what I have seen from those in Australia and there experiences with the equivalent to the DWP.

      Labour may choose to cancel those contracts but I highly doubt it as it was Blair and Brown who took the decision making for WCA and DLA / PIP into these private companies, before it was all handled by the DWP under the Social Security offices.

      Most of what underpins the law is still under the Social Security Act 1992.
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    Joe · 15 days ago
    As others have said, Labour need to be vague to avoid an attack from the Tories.

    It all boils down to who you would want in charge of your fate, the nasty party or Labour.

    I know where my vote is going. Labour.
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      gingin · 11 days ago
      @Hmmm In my area Labour have no chance of winning, it's between Conservatives and Lib Dems, which is why i'll vote LD - at least they can represent our views on welfare in parliament, should Labour want to take benefits away.
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      Elizabeth Vidler · 13 days ago
      @Joe I would think you might want to be wary of both of them, not really much to choose between them is there.
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      Mik · 13 days ago
      @Joe I agree they are not spelling it out, but they can’t. Ultimately there would be no Labour Party if they didn’t help the disadvantaged.
      Farage doesn’t even agree with nhs let alone disability benefits.
      If you rely on your pip or esa don’t be a turkey and vote for Christmas!
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      Realistic peeved off · 14 days ago
      @Alicia Mitchell Really ? Libdems were in Coalition with the Tory s***m, please,sensible statement.Need to Stop DWP sanctions,hate and much more,this Rogue Gov Dept is needing destroyed.
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      Hmmm · 15 days ago
      @Alicia Mitchell With all due respect to your intended vote, voting for the Lib democrats is a waste of vote. They aren’t going to win so why vote them 
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    jason · 15 days ago
    Tactically the Tories evidently having data that shows 'soft on welfare' is one of the few attack lines they have. Labour has in the media discourse responded by not taking the bait. This is an extension of that. It makes sense with their electoral aims, if it is the right thing outside of that is another matter. Of course, it's frustrating because of the recent announcements especially. The minimum wage wasn't set out by New Labour before 97 afterall, but any 'new' benefit model like Universal Credit was pre the Coalition is now highly unlikely. Reverting that policy back to it's original levels may be politically possible, as that was the mandate the first time and what was endorsed. Things can indeed only get better, but we have no sense of how. Disappointing but not surprising.  
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    David Palmer · 15 days ago
    I was disgusted to hear the "labour advisor" calling pensioners ,"old codgers"
    Meaning "coffin dodgers" 
    Bearing in mind we worked out working lives, and paid for the right, in my case, entitlement going from 65 to 66, I emailed Kier Starmer, but I appreciate he's too busy to reply.....
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      wibblum · 14 days ago
      @Alicia Mitchell 'Sensible' like they were in 2010, when they finally realised that even by riding on the back of Nick Clegg's dubious 'charisma' they still wouldn't get enough votes to form their own government, and jumped straight into bed with the tories?

      The Lib Dems enabled the past 14 of tory government by propping them up in 2010, and then by being too weak to form an effective coalition with them. All they became was the tories' whipping boy and scapegoat for five years.

      The Lib Dems aren't fit to govern, practically or morally, and I'll never trust them with my vote.
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      Alicia Mitchell · 15 days ago
      @David Palmer Vote Lib Dem’s… they seem the only sensible ones who care equally about disabled and the working class. All other party makes out that disabled people are scrounges who don’t want to work without considering that they can’t! I hope no one in either labour or conservative ever suffers a disability or MH issue! 
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    David Jeffery · 15 days ago
    First of all I don't trust the tories or the lib dems but now Labour has revealed their stance on welfare benefit claiments who are genuinely unable to work through serious health issues forcing them to work Starmer and labour has  lost my vote 
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      Bodnar · 14 days ago
      @Old mother I am finding this constant `media` scaremongering really tiring. Almost everyday there is a head line. Of vouchers will replace PIP and then you read through and it is either for Scotland or they use words like `could` or `might` and still in consultation. Also, I thought all consultation was on hold till after the election.
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      Old mother · 15 days ago
      @Tom Agree. I think Labour are going to study the whole system. Not just parts.  Taking a holistic view will be helpful in the long term.  

      Health is a big issue for all of us and they are going to tackle that.  Some of the increase in non-working has been due to increased waiting for nhs treatment. 
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      Old mother · 15 days ago
      @David Jeffery Where does it say that ?  Scaremongering isn’t helpful and is dishonest. 
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      Aw · 15 days ago
      @Not in my name That's all nonsense. Labour have propsed precisely ZERO welfare cuts. Go back to Conservative party central and hang your head in shame for targetting scared and vulnerable people.
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      Tom · 15 days ago
      @David Jeffery Labour have said no such thing. 

      They have done 2 things so far. Distanced themselves from the 12.5 billion in cuts that the Tories proposed in their manifesto.  They have also committed to reviewing Universal Credit and more importantly tackling poverty. 

      Tackling poverty, does not translate to forcing people back into work who can't, that would increase poverty. 
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    Steve · 15 days ago
    The problem with saying to much about welfare reform, would only make the tories jump on it, saying Labour, are soft on Welfare, scoungers, we know since 2010, that the tories, have systematically, gone after the sick, disabled, and the out of work, we can only hope, that's the
    reason for keeping it below the below the radar, fingers crossed everyone.
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      Darren · 15 days ago
      @Steve Yes your 💯 right remember its not just the tories who hate the poor and disabled but the right wing media do as well and they own 80% of our media.
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      The dogmother. · 15 days ago
      @Steve Absolutely, they have been relentless. But those with blinkers on will believe anything because it suits them to. We are all lazy good for nothing layabouts. Well I didn't chose my conditions.  But I'm stuck with them. It's not a life. If they could change that for me and give me a job that would be perfect. 
      But no let's just trounce the chronically unwell and disabled a little bit more into the ground. 
      So let's hope whoever wins listens to those who know life's no picnic.. we couldn't afford the sandwiches. 
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    Tomkins · 15 days ago
    I agree with Aw and Claire I think the vagueness is actually because they plan on doing the opposite of the tories, but because of that classic attack of "labour are the party of benefits" there's no way he can state this without a dangerous risk of taking a hit before the election costing everyone dearly. Once in I'm sure any changes will be mild.

    Let's look at certain points that prove this, when the green paper was.launched there were 4 remarks from different labour mps including Starmer that indirectly stated what an old and stupid idea it was and typical of the Tories.

    Labour in October stated OUTRIGHT that yhey wouldn't be tightening the wca (see disability news service)

    The manifesto mentions the aim of reducing the need for foodbanks and child poverty, well with any of the Tories "ideas" virtually everyone will need a foodbank!

    Liz Kendall who is not exactly typical labour even made comments about more compassion and less fear is what's needed 

    I'm certainly not going to worry yet.

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      Gavin Taylor · 15 days ago
      @Tomkins I wouldn't count on it. You can make the same arguments that if Labour do good things for the disabled, then the Tories will leap on it in the next election. Since Labour literally seem to only care about winning elections, then if it becomes politically popular enough then they will go after the disabled.
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    Peter · 15 days ago
    I disagree that it is cruel. Cruel is making threatening policy announcements that will never see the light of day which is what we've had in recent weeks from the Tories. It makes no sense to give specific policies right now and they'll be interlinked with other government projects. As a disabled person with MH problems most importantly we have a government that listens rather than threatens... and Labour is unlikely to cut the £12 billion largely from PIP/DLA the Tories plan. 

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    clearwater · 15 days ago
    Re the above B&W It sounds like Labour has no clear ideas on the subject, just a vague aspiration.

    I think they do have plans but are just not revealing them, i dont trust labour ( or Cons, Lib, Reform )
    all are a  sly bunch, Starmers has always guarded & non commital.    
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    Aw · 15 days ago
    In the Guardian this morning it was pointed out that the difference between money saved and money spent was exactly the same as the amount needed to remove the 2 child limit. It was strongly suggested that it was an open secret that they plan to do this, and I think the references to reversing child poverty and removing the need for food banks heavily hints at this also. They can't say it outright because of the right wing press.
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    Claire · 15 days ago
    The way I see it is Starmer has to be very careful with any major policy announcements.Conservatives have painted disabled and sick as fraudsters and shirkers and would never get my vote.Cameron and Osborne changed the original WCA to become very much harder just after entering office.I remember the strivers versus shirkers rhetoric and it went on for years.Much of the right wing press absolutely welcome this as do their readers.Not until someone they know becomes chronically sick or disabled or themselves,do they understand.Universal credit was supposed to be the benefit to change everything,hence IDS punching the air with glee!Probably take years to set up yet another change,I think we have to be glad the Tory reforms will not likely go through.Hope a whole new government will see reassessments as pointless and give us the dignity we deserve.
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      Laura · 14 days ago
      @Claire Well said Claire, they say you can judge a society on how they treat their vulnerable and every vulnerable section of society has been treated appallingly by the Tories. These people can't possibly relate to the common man on the street or understand the hurt it causes struggling disabled people shirkers and not working a lifestyle choice. I just pray if Labour gets in they show a bit of respect, compassion and empathy which goes a long way.
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      Old mother · 15 days ago
      @Claire Well said. 
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    phil · 15 days ago
    Where's the imagination in any of these manifestos ? There used to be a section in benefits claim forms where you were able to state how long it is since you had a job/work routine and how you felt about your ability/motivation regarding work/career/training/education etc.
    This section should be returned as it deals with reality. The removal of this ushered in the era of fantasy, which was painted as "not writing anyone off". What's needed is an advisory panel on the reality of long term unemployment, whether considered disabled or not. The private sector will not employ the long term unemployed. The current unimaginative rhetoric just reinforces negativity around economic inactivity.
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    Mimi · 15 days ago
    As someone who suffers from multiple mental health disabilities and can’t even leave the house due to severe panic attacks OCD and BPD. I rely on my PIP as I do not and cannot work. This is maddening and anxiety inducing to think that the only means I have of living is at risk. 
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      T · 14 days ago
      @Nancy I think the not knowing what they plan to do is worse because we are stuck in a limbo and you can't help but worry constantly that they are keeping silent for sinister reasons... I'll keep praying I'm wrong though and hope that they are simply keeping quiet to stop the Tories and their friends from going on about them being soft on us.  It's just cruel that they didn't give us just at least a tiny bit of hope on something regarding pip or esa/universal credit. 
        I don't want to vote labour but I feel I need to because it would be a waste of vote if I voted greens or lib Dems,, but I know I'll hate myself if I voted labour and they end up equally cruel as the Tories..  
        This should be a time now for us to be happy and celebrate finally getting rid of the nasty party but we can't, it's not right. 
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      Nancy · 14 days ago
      @T I was hoping to hear something positive today as well. I have agoraphobia, anxiety, depression and other chronic health issues. I'm terrified of moving over to universal credit and the voucher scheme! My daughter is my fulltime carer and only gets her carers allowance, we will not be able to live without pip. I wish labour would say something concrete about pip.
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      Elizabeth · 15 days ago
      @Mimi Conservatives are the only worry if you're on pip. 
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      Edwards · 15 days ago
      @D king They won't ever Implement vouchers,noone would want to take them and they know it,it's more likely they want to cut claimants numbers by any means they can,the most severely disabled will be ok,in my opinion it would likely be the people who are bed bound or have serious learning disabilities, the rest of us will not be on pip any more and probably cut off from sickness payments and told to find work, as an agoraphobic myself this is personally terrifying,I also have neurological problems,dysmotility and a liver that doesn't work very well despite me never ever drinking alcohol and not being overweight either ,I will not be voting,not even postal because I can not seriously look at any party as having any support for us,I think disability benefits in the future will no longer exist and as usual after the outcry everyone will forget about us and it will become normal, there will only be 1 benefit, universal credit or it's replacement and that will come with all the requirements and sanctions it has now.i just can not see a way through this mess

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      T · 15 days ago
      @Diane Thank you Diane for your help . I really appreciate it. 
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    Moses · 15 days ago
    I don't trust  labour at all either
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    Tom · 15 days ago
    All seems like a shambles very very vague I really don’t know I would guess they will reduce the 5 week wait(even though I hear it’s a 3 month wait these days) for first uc payment might get bit more money too for the sick and disabled they might introduce that try part time job and no medicals again thing and for the job seekers think things will stay the same as now no mention of esa-uc forced migration either so off to enjoy the football and the summer and will try to forget for now 
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    bobtehbuilder · 15 days ago
    i had hoped they'd do something involving permitted/self-employed work to make it less hassle to try and/or used as therapeutic work.
    as you say, the manifesto doesnt seem to say anything about what they would do in any detail, from what i know of labour policies in the past they used to push jobseekers quite hard to get a job and im sure the same theme will be continued. labour created the original WCA but left office around the same time as it was hammering disabled people in a horrible way, i cant even guess how they will approach it.
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    Syl · 15 days ago
    Makes me think that any changes are going to be superficial and they intend to run on with the current system. Otherwise, why not set it out in the Manifesto? 
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      Jen · 15 days ago
      @Syl We can trust any of the two major parties! Fill out the PIP consultation/green paper to let them know how you feel!
      They haven’t mentioned where they’ll get the money from, for lots of thing, but they say that all of their spending is costed! Let’s hope that it’s not reducing the cost of PIP, by removing it!
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      Aw · 15 days ago
      @Syl Because they need the swing votes and they can't give the right wing press any ammunition before the election. Your stereotypical Tory or red wall undecided voter hates benefit claimants...
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