Benefits and Work is asking for readers help to find out whether MPs are being misled about pension age personal independence payment (PIP).

On 25 April we published the news that disability minister Stephen Timms had told MPs in a written parliamentary answer that people over state pension age “will not be affected by the proposed changes” to PIP set out in the Pathways To Work Green Paper.

In that article we expressed our concerns that Timms’ claim left questions unanswered.

Now, having had time to consider, we have concluded that we can find no plausible way that Timms’ statement could be accurate.  We need readers with a sympathetic MP to quiz Timms further.

In his written answer to a question about the impact of the Green Paper on pension age PIP claimants Timms said:

 “Our intention is that the new eligibility requirement in Personal Independence Payment (PIP), in which people must score a minimum of four points in one daily living activity to be eligible for the daily living component, will apply to new claims and award reviews from November 2026, subject to parliamentary approval. In keeping with existing policy, people over State Pension Age are not routinely fully reviewed and will not be affected by the proposed changes.”

The phrase “not routinely fully reviewed” is deeply ambiguous.  It is true that claimants over pension age are likely to have a light-touch review.  This involves the shortened AR2 review form and will not normally require the claimant to have a face-to-face or telephone assessment.

But the AR2 form still asks the claimant if there have been any changes in their daily living needs since their last assessment.  After November 2026, assuming Labour’s rule changes go through, If the claimant answers “No” to this, and they currently do not score 4 points or higher for any activity, then they are stating that they no longer meet the legal criteria for an award of PIP.  This will be the case for around eight out of ten current PIP standard rate daily living component claimants.

In these circumstances the DWP would either have to stop the claimant’s award or require them to attend an assessment to determine if they were eligible, which would include having to establish that they scored at least 4 points for one activity.

There isn’t any way around this that we can see.  There is no such thing as a “not full review”, which ignores the basic eligibility criteria for PIP.

Timms could have said that new legislation would exempt pension age claimants from ever being reviewed again – but he didn’t. Currently more than 10,000 pension age PIP claimants have a planned award review every year.

And even if Labour did abolish planned award reviews for this group, pension age PIP claimants would still be affected by the Green Paper. 

Because some claimants getting the standard rate of the PIP daily living component will experience an increase in their needs over time and will ask for a change of circumstances review, in the hope of moving onto the enhanced rate.

There are currently around 20,000 pension age PIP change of circumstances reviews a year.  After November 2026 these claimants will not only have to prove they score at least 12 daily living points in total to get the enhanced rate, they will also have to show that they score at least 4 points for one activity.

What is more, if they fail to score at least 4 points for one activity, they will lose their current daily living award entirely.

So, pension age PIP claimants will definitely be affected by the Green paper changes.  The only way to avoid this would be to say that the new points system regulations will specifically exempt pension age PIP claimants.

But Timms didn’t say that.

We don’t want to alarm pension age PIP claimants.  Reviews after pension age are much less frequent, so most claimants may not be affected.

Nonetheless, it appears that tens of thousands a year may be.

So, to try to get to the truth, we need an MP to ask some more questions of the secretary of state for work and pensions.  Something along the lines of:

“Will existing PIP claimants of pension age who are subject to a planned award review from November 2026 be required to score at least four points in one daily living activity in order to maintain their award?”

“Will existing PIP claimants of pension age who request a change of circumstances review from November 2026 be required to score at least four points in one daily living activity in order to maintain or increase their award?”

If you have a supportive MP, please ask them to consider raising these issues.  It seems important that MPs have the fullest facts possible about the changes being planned, before they are asked to vote on them next month.

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    · 2 hours ago
    I retired 18 months ago after working 40yrs and paying my stamp. I claimed DLA years ago initially after learning I could get help after an RTA back in the 80s. I only had a light touch review every 10yrs. Got moved to PIP, get enhanced daily care & lower mobility. Next review I had other health issues from another accident that had caught up with me causing legs to 'vanish' randomly when walking, so I would faceplant the floor which caused other injuries too. The 2nd review I had I got knocked down a point for something I'd never been able to do since the 80s! Me thinks just be grateful I still get it. Then last year I slipped a disc causing another issue which left me with very unsteady walking even with crutches so got moved to larger adapted bungalow and thought change address and report changes. My next review was to be April 2027. After doing the PIP review on b and w I should be on 4 points for a few questions. I have a video appointment soon and am terrified they'll score me the same and they don't record video assessments. I am unable to work but did do even from job to job for 40yrs so why should Starmer think disabled people don't work! I even had the green disability card in the 80s and did any job I could do to survive rather than claim sick benefit but as soon as almost every employer found out I was disabled as back then not quite so obvious, I was forced to leave! The last one I left after 8yrs after I got worse and was referred to as the cripple by the boss. I just don't trust the system at all as it all seems designed to take not help. Emailed MP 3 times, 1st at old address came out with cut & paste response,ignored 2nd time diff MP, 3rd time cut & paste response again. Just hope I get through to 4 points without a fight!
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    · 6 hours ago
    Don’t the government define working age as up to age 64? Sorry if this point has already been made but it means at 65 you would no longer count as being of working age whether or not you actually receive a state pension. For instance, I receive my state pension at age 67. In the gap between age 65 and 67 I will not be a pensioner, nor of official ‘working age’. So,any change in the law on any benefit must be analysed for the use of these phrases. If the intention is to get productivity higher, and genuinely help people to do what work they can, it would seem ridiculous to target those who are ill, or with disabilities, who are approaching, or at the end of, their official working life. Of course, we all know the real agenda is to placate the right-wing press and save money. This being so I’m not surprised to see that B and W have analysed the health issues they plan to target, and those who are older will be hardest hit. It’s not to increase productivity that they are doing this but to punish those who they see as not productive. Labour has, after all, consistently declared they are a party for ‘working people’. We were told the clue is in the name. Goodness knows who represents the rest of our population then - mothers who are at home, the retired, children, and many ill and disabled people…. All the above being true I think they will try to assess Oder people - even before the ten year dates of next reviews. They will want us applying for attendance allowance once officially retired because this pays significantly less but sounds as if they are still taking care of the disabled elderly. As for young people they will be faced with fighting it out with the government to even start to get support and help. However, there are lots of us and if each person knows at least one or two people more that makes a substantial pressure group of millions. So keep writing to your MP or sharing petitions or anything thing law you can think of. Nobody is in this alone. Xxx

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      · 3 hours ago
      @Lesley But if you claim attendance allowance you lose pip mobility.
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      · 5 hours ago
      @catoswyn Attendance allowance paysvexactly the same as PIP Daily Living. My hubby gets it. I get enhanced daily and mobility. I have ongoing pip for life with no more assessments. I am 68. This is in my award letter. 
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    · 6 hours ago
    So,I’m 63,I’m allegedly seven years until my next review,(was given 10 yrs at last one)so will then be over pensionable age. Question,Will I be reviewed early,or will they allow the seven years to pass? Secondly,I have a number of “3’s” get well over the points for higher PIP and full amount for the mobility side,will I have to have a review to keep these,bearing in mind my first question if they review me at my original due date,? My injuries are getting worse, are all physical,so it looks like although maybe there is the possibility of getting the a 4 somewhere,it reads like I may be penalised anyway.

    Also,I have written to my MP,young lad,no life experience,not interested in us as was apparent by his copy and paste toe the party line reply
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      · 6 hours ago
      @Clive Well done for writing though. 
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    · 7 hours ago
    Hope this is ok to share.  Are you aware that so far 248,577 thousand people have signed the campaign to the government to increase the income tax personal allowance threshold from £12,570 to £20,000. It will be discussed in parliament in the 12h May 2025. This would be an incredible help to people if this threshold was increased. 
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      · 4 hours ago
      @Chrissy Sanderson This is a terrible idea. It is economically illiterate. It would mean additional huge cuts to our depleted public services as well as ensuring cuts to benefits.
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    · 8 hours ago
    I emailed my MP a few times and have only just received a reply, which is merely a copy and paste statement of the Reeves et al nonsense. As per the norm I got no straight yes or no answer to my questions. I am taking this to mean that she ( Maria Eagle ) will be voting for the cuts and changes.
    So I won't be voting for her ever again and I told her so.

    As far as am aware only 2 Liverpool MPs are voting against ( this could or have changed by now) in a region that research has proved will be amongst those hardest hit.
    What an absolute disgrace, words fail me.
    But let's keep up the fight we have to 
    Best wishes to you all and take care
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      · 6 hours ago
      @Andrea Ms Eagle is a ‘party line’ politician. Like so many other MP’s she is a loyal trooper (the very type so so beloved of Starmer. He threw anyone who disagreed with him on anything out of the party) To get enough MP’s to rebel and actually vote against this bill will be very hard. We have to keep trying though, You’ve done just the right thing by telling her this will affect your vote. It’s potentially  something they do care about! Let’s hope it’s making her think twice. 
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    · 8 hours ago
    I’m 65yrs old on my pension in January, and get the disabled lower component, already realised the implications of the threat to disabled persons and the double whammy of cuts to winter fuel, now PIP IS threatened, for similar cuts for pensioners. 
    On Friday I had Frank’s exchange with my MP, I’ve already lost around 40k due to universal credit which stoped my old style Incapacity benefit, from being paid and also now PIP is next for cuts and pointed out this would affect pensioners. 
    I also told her this strategy is stupidity, will have another go at next Labour Party meeting?
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    · 9 hours ago
    I am 63 and very concerned I will be subject to the cut right before I reach retirement age. I'm on a light touch on going award which I think they reassess after ten years but  I don't remember when I got the award and I'm too scared to phone and ask DWP. I live on the PIP money, I won't be able to pay all my bills, food etc.if it's cut. 
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      · 3 hours ago
      @Marion @Marion, "if you get the Daily Living part of PIP after pension, you get a fair amount premium on top of Pension Credit, like the SDP" - this is what people don't realise and what is essential to the income of disabled pensioners so they are passported to housing benefit, winter fuel allowance and other benefits, and it's why we must keep pushing for a DEFINITE commitment that pensioners will not be affected.
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      · 7 hours ago
      @Squirrel Why are you living on your PIP payment? It’s not meant for that, it’s the extra costs, though I’m aware most of us need to dip into it. Do you not get ESA or Universal Credit? 
      I’m worried generally about the PIP situation, 64 in early July, just forced on to UC, but want to maintain my PIP until after I get my pension. I have just had to complete my PIP review, it currently runs out in February 2026. I’ve also just found out if you get the Daily Living part of PIP after pension, you get a fair amount premium on top of Pension Credit, like the SDP.
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    · 9 hours ago
    I would like to know why there hasn’t been more attention paid to the fact that MP can claim an extra £6k on top of their salary for each member of their family that claims PIP. Apparently, they are entitled to claim an extra £6k per family member on PIP to a maximum of 3 family members. 

    In essence, they are “entitled” to claim a maximum of £18k of Our Tax Payers money on top of the salary that we already pay them. 

    I would like 1. Someone to make this make sense 2. Explain why this hasn’t made national headlines and been highlighted as a farce and hypocrisy; not to mention another loophole for MPs to raid our tax money while inferring that most pIP claimants are scroungers.
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      · 7 hours ago
      @Isobel I was so shocked to read this that I Googled for more information.  The AI answer I received stated:

      "No, MPs do not receive an additional £6000 in salary for each family member who receives Personal Independence Payment (PIP). MPs' pay is determined by the Independent Parliamentary Standards Authority (IPSA) and may include additional payments for specific roles, such as being a minister or chairing a committee. There are no provisions for extra pay based on family members receiving PIP."
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      · 8 hours ago
      @Isobel If this is true then it's outrageous and I urge you to report it to the media ASAP.
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    · 10 hours ago
    Have emailed my MP , let's see what she says. 
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    · 10 hours ago
    I have written to my local  Mp and to Hilary Benn about this matter as I'm on Pip and a pension iv asked for clarification as to what's happening and also about loosing my mobility car should this happen
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    · 10 hours ago
    As I have already told my MP Pam Cox (although I haven't had a reply), on review as things stand that I will lose my care componant and as a result my pension credit, plus winter fuel and warm home discount. I had a serious road accident (not my fault) when I was 27 which left me with long-term disability and ended my career as a nurse. I am now 69 and have severe osteo-arthritis plus various other conditions. Cold severely affects my ability to walk, move around and care for myself never mind my home. I  also suffer from severe pain in both arms due to the arthritis and walking on crutches for over 20 years (I now use a mobility scooter when outside) and the ulna nerve in my right arm was damaged in a fall 22 months ago when I broke my arm and I am unable to pick up heavy objects as my hand is affected and I can  only effectively use my index and middle fingers of that hand and I will not be able to pay for my groceries to be delivered as I do now.  I will keep the mobility component but will have to use that for living expenses. I will not be able to run my car or replace the numerous pieces of equipment that I have to enable me to live independently and will struggle to pay for the electricity for my CPAP therapy every night, my chair and my bed.  I do not have carers as I'm not considered disabled enough (their solution was to give me a care alarm which I've used several times due to falls) and I don't have friends or family able enough to help. I pay privately for a chiropodist at £38 a visit every 8 weeks (which increases yearly) and also will lose free dental care. I pay for gardening help from the local council. I am partialy deaf with hearing aids and will struggle to pay the vets bills for my assistance dog who alerts me to people at my door, alarms at night etc. and is in training to assist me with fetching things I need plus I will struggle to feed us both. I already cannot afford a TV licence so don't have a TV. I'm on a social tariff for internet and phone. I will have to try to manage on my pension, small LG Pension of £26.45 a month and the mobility. I was a carer for my daughter for many years before she died and bulit up my LGP with 4 years part-time after recovering sufficiently from long-term illness to work before becoming too disabled. I retired with 48 years NI contributions and as well as caring for my daughter from my early 30s I also did part-time voluntary work, passed professional exams and took a degree to improve my chances of working after she passed, which I paid for with loans. Fortunately they expired when I was 60 or I would still be paying those off now. I'm also one of the WASPI women and was informed by letter (which I still have) 3 years before I reached my expected retirement age of 60 when I was serously ill. This is the reality of what these people are proposing to do to people like me. I'm not asking for sympathy just stating the facts.
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    · 10 hours ago
    I have a UNPAID CARER for over forty years. When PIP fist started, i was in carers group which was visited by acompany asking questions to review PIP. 
    Within twenty minutes we al agreed PIP was not there to help disabled people. It was nothing more than a disgiused COST CUTTING EXERCISE.
    And now today once again a LABOUR PARTY is behaving just like the conservatives.
    NO POLITICIANS NOW CAN EVER BE TRUSTED !!!!! 

    WHO CARES FOR THE DISABLED AND UNPAID CARERS ????? 
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    · 10 hours ago
    This lot at the DWP want to spy on the bank accounts of 12.6 million people, yet they can't even keep the email addresses of individuals private 
    They can't even hold a meeting by Skype for a few people without technical problems! 
    Holy hell, we are all in for a hectic time. 

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    · 10 hours ago
    The truth is that it is unbelievable that a Labour government given an overwhelming majority decided to attack pensioners,the young,Families with more than 2 children and now of course the Tories favourite punching bag the disabled. To top it off they leave billionaires and massive money making businesses alone to basically decide if they want to pay tax.
    This is not the Labour Party we want and their privileged Mps will find out soon enough they need or votes far more than we need them. The level of political naivety is absolutely stunning it can only come from someone who's not really lived in the real world.
    Keep up the pressure let them know they rely on us to keep their lucrative careers.
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    · 10 hours ago
     I hope you can help me spread this message. It’s very important about PIP and how the judges at my tribunal did not attempt to award all the points I deserved but stopped the tribunal as soon as I had been awarded enough points to get me the maximum award. If this happened to me I’m betting it happened to others, too. This is very important for people who haven’t been awarded 4 points for anything. It possibly/ probably means that anyone who has been to tribunal might deserve higher points than is/was agreed by the tribunal judges. Something meant as kindness for such sick people but that might mean that that lose their PIP due to the government’s poor decisions. Badly worded, I know. My brain fog gets worse and worse. Please read the rest of this post. I think it’s very important

    For my PIP I took Atos to tribunal. The tribunal was in December 2016 Please be patient with me because it’s hard for me to find words to explain. The judges at the tribunal wanted to make the whole thing as easy and as quick as possible for me so that my carers could get me back home and to bed as soon as possible. I had two carers with me and a legal advisor. I think people usually just have one person with them but the tribunal judges welcomed my “support team”.

    So. They wanted the tribunal to be over as soon as possible as they could see I was in pain, discomfort, etc

    So they decided that they would ask questions which would help them get the required number of points as quickly as possible. They had obviously discussed this amongst themselves before I arrived. I had brought colour coded notes and photos to help me provide evidence and my carers helped me answer them, too. Of course they already had the large dossier that I’d had to submit prior to the tribunal

    So as soon as my answers helped them get the required number of points to award me the top level of both parts of PIP they stopped the tribunal and told me I had been successful and that I was awarded the top thingies (please forgive my word finding problems) in both daily living and in mobility.

    That was great and meant we could finish the tribunal as quickly as possible. But it also meant that they didn’t assess me on the rest of the questions/sections. The results were not exhaustive.

    So they didn’t update any points to the other sections. If we had continued I very much assume I would have been awarded higher points for those sections, too. And of course it means that you can’t use my PIP award sheet as a basis for determining what I can and can’t do, or to what degree I can do things

    It’s very hard for me to put this into words. I don’t know if this was a common occurrence that the judges finished the tribunal as soon as they reached the required number of points to award people the top rates. Of course it means that the tribunals are quicker but it does mean that we don’t get a true picture of how many more points we would have been given if we’d gone through the whole of the PIP forms at the tribunal and were can’t use the PIP award letter as a basis for understanding what I can and can’t do, how often I can do things, nor to what extent I can do things. 
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      · 5 hours ago
      @Janice Johnson The reason they do this at tribunal is to sort things out quickly
      It doesn't matter how many points you get awarded once over the amount required to get maximum daily living and mobility that's it 
      They are not interested in anything else or how disabled you are 
      You do not get anymore pip money however many points you maybe awarded 
      So once points are reached that are required that's it max pip 
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    · 10 hours ago
    I brought the benefits changes debacle up with my (Labour) MP when he was on my doorstep during the local elections. He just repeated the line about the number of people (allegedly) claiming disability benefits when there was nothing wrong with them (frauds and scroungers, in other words!). He was obsessed with migrants and Reform - who are now in control of our local council and my particular ward (I didn't vote for them). So I feel it may be wasting my time to approach my MP, but might give it a go. see if I get a reply at all. 
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    · 10 hours ago
    I’m a pension age PIP recipient and don’t have 4 points in any of my living component scores. My review isn’t for another 7 years . I know that I can’t increase my living component to enhanced as once you are of Pension age you cannot increase your award. With the ambiguity of it all it worries me that I have got to volunteer myself for a review to maintain the award that I have got (my care needs have increased but not to an enhanced level) 
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      · 3 hours ago
      @Dog servant So if I lose my daily living but keep the enhanced mobility (I have a car) can I then apply for AA?  Can you get both PIP & AA?
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      · 4 hours ago
      @Limbolife I never heard of not being able to increase an award. What's the point of reassessments at all then after pension age, I wonder, if you can't get an increase in your award no matter how much worse you got? Anyone? 
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      · 4 hours ago
      @Poppykins Please be aware you can change your award past pension age. I did. Also please consider everyone Attendance Allowance. They haven’t mucked around with that yet. Amounts are same as pip. Plus if they start denying us pip we can clog their system with AA applications. That’ll teach them. 
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      · 7 hours ago
      @Poppykins Poppykins, You can move from standard to enhanced daily living over pension age - I did it last year aged 69. My points were also increased for mobility but although I would have moved to enhanced mobility had I been aged 66, I didn't as it's the mobility award that is locked at pension age. I would however take advice about "volunteer myself for a review".
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      · 8 hours ago
      @Poppykins You can increase your daily living award once over pension age but not your mobility 🙏
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    · 20 hours ago
    I’m having trouble understanding why this so called ‘consultation’ has not been taken to court yet like the Tory wca consultation was by Ellen Clifford earlier in the year

    At least the Tory wca/pip consultations actually somewhat resembled the definition of a consultation 

    Labours green paper consultation is a total farce and that’s being generous - many aren’t filling it in because it’s a total joke and honestly I don’t blame them

    It’s mind boggling that Labour ministers has less respect for the disabled then the previous Tory lot

    I don’t know if action can’t be legally taken till the constitution is over - but it’s ridiculous that Labour seem to be making truckloads of disability cuts unopposed whilst the last Tory gov had trouble implementing a fraction of similar cuts
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      · 4 hours ago
      @K The political class don't see disabled people out of work as contributors to society, look up George Bernard Shaw and the Fabian Society, these people are eugenicists. 
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      · 8 hours ago
      @Dez Why is the PM intent on punitive attacks on the sick and disabled with diagnosed conditions?   The rush to do this and to push the "assisted dying" bill makes life terribly hard & stressful. It's terrifying to read the proposed legislative changes and see they are directed at one section of society. If we don't like it we are shown the door, yet if we've never lived anywhere else & are sick &/or disabled it's hard to find another life somewhere else, I haven't even boarded a flight to anywhere in my life. 
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      · 10 hours ago
      @D It's mainly because the Tories were no longer in government, so it was easier to take them to court. I'm sure that there's things going on behind the scenes but lawyers have to bid their time because they tend to have only one shot at making this kind of thing stick in court. They've already stated things are difficult because we don't know the exact human impact these reforms shall have on people and we won't know until the autumn.

      Hence why Starmer is frantically trying to rush things such as the 4 point rule in as quickly as possible. With any luck, this shall be used against him. It's plain as day that he knows this impact statement isn't going to look good on him and it's going to make it harder for him to convince MPs to vote or not abstain.
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    · 1 days ago
    Timms is overwhelmed, he doesn't have a clue what's going on. I think his bumbling on about no routine or full reviews was just an attempt to make it sound as if it was clear pension age claimants were never included in the proposals. Instead he confused things even more, so now we have to get a definite commitment As for whether pensioners will be liable for new pip rules, I just don't see how that can happen, because the government have no excuse for it - they can't link it to employment. There are other ways to hurt the elderly, though.
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      · 9 hours ago
      @sara
      Sara, I think that you maybe right!  I am 77 and on the old style D.L.A. indefinitely. I don't trust any of this government.  Sadly, am ashamed to say, that I naively voted for Labour.
      Am watching closley.  Nothing to stop them doing reviews of all of us older claimants who are still on old style D.L.A.  My mobility has greately decreased.  Had an ankle fusion on December 7th 2023 and my foot is now fixed at a 90 degree angle and am still using two crutches to mobise with.  Was misled to believe that I would be walking with ease by now.
      Am so disappointed!  Plus I am only on low mobilitely D.L.A. and at my age cannot apply for any more. Although I do get middle care rate.  My needs are getting even greater.
      Yup! You are so right, about there being other ways to hurt the elderly.
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    · 1 days ago
    As an aside, this morning was the first virtual meeting of the consultation of the green paper, which I was to be part of.  I tried to login at 9.55 as requested, but couldn't.  I tried again for the next ten minutes or so, and still no joy.   And so, as DWP had released the email addresses of all the participants last week by mistake (!), I sent an email to all to see if someone could help.  I got a dozen replies, all from private individuals, who were having the same problem.  

    The consultation meeting was to have 25 private individuals and a bunch of people from councils, support groups and charities.  I know for sure that half of the private individuals couldn't attend the meeting.  I still don't know at this stage whether ANY individuals were able to log in to the meeting, and I don't know about the representatives from groups.   Nobody has replied to my email saying that they could log in OK. 

    Because the people behind the event could only be contacted via email, there was no way to get a quick fix.  I have written to them demanding that the event be rescheduled, but have heard nothing back - not even an apology. 
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      · 11 hours ago
      @SLB The meeting was cancelled because of the tech issues and will be rescheduled 
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      · 1 days ago
      @SLB May I respectfully suggest you report this debacle to the media? Only more widespread media interest in this will perhaps concentrate the minds of those responsible for this farce. 
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      · 1 days ago
      @SLB @SLB, damn, how disappointing. One can't help but be paranoid. 
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