The DWP is to begin continuous surveillance of the bank accounts of all pension credit, universal credit and employment and support allowance claimants using powers under a bill currently going through Parliament.  The department have said that they intend to use their new power to force any third party to pass on data to them more widely in the future.

The power to compel third parties into providing any data that the DWP wants in order to search for fraud and error is being conferred in last minute amendments slipped into the Data Protection and Digital Information Bill, which has now passed its third reading in the Commons and moved to the Lords.

Initially the DWP say that they will use their powers to oblige the UK’s top 15 banks to monitor the accounts of all means-tested benefits claimants and report every time an account goes over the  capital limit or is used abroad for more than four weeks.

Because every DWP payment into a bank account has an identifying code attached to it, all banks know exactly which of their customers is on benefits and which benefits they receive.

Setting up software to automatically send details to the DWP of every claimant account that goes over the capital limit or is used abroad for more than four weeks will be very straightforward for banks.

The DWP say that each identified claim will be investigated in the normal way and that penalties will not be automatically imposed.

At the moment, almost 9 million claimants would be caught in the surveillance net, including:

  • 5.8 million universal credit claimants
  • 1.6 million employment and support allowance claimants
  • 1.4 million pension credit claimants

Any bank failing to collect and pass on data to the DWP will be subject to heavy fines.

 The new system will begin to be rolled out in 2025, though all banks may not be fully involved before 2030.

The DWP estimates that it will cost around £30 million a year for them to investigate potential fraud identified by the new system, but that they will save £500 million a year through reduced fraud and error.  

They also estimate that over the first ten years, the new powers will result in 74,000 prosecution cases and 2,500 custodial sentences.  

There is no doubt that the DWP intend to use these new powers much more widely.  The impact assessment for the new powers says that:

“The power is not limited to a specific type of data or type of institution/Third-Party to allow us to fight new fraud and error issues as they emerge and engage with new institutions as efficient opportunities become available to us.”

Later, the same document says: 

“This measure is drafted broadly . . .  to enable DWP to apply this measure to non-financial organisations in future if it is deemed appropriate and proportionate”

The new surveillance powers for the DWP appear to enjoy cross party support. Only 51 MPs voted against the amendment, with 30 of those being SNP and just 7 each from Labour and the Lib Dems.

Anyone who imagines that the DWP will use such sweeping powers reasonably and proportionately probably hasn’t ever claimed benefits.

And they probably also don’t remember the Regulation of Investigatory Powers Act, which was brought in to combat terrorism and organised crime and ended up being used to spy on dog walkers, pigeon feeders and people putting out their wheelie bins too early.

Capital and abroad fraud account for less than 15% of benefits fraud and error. The DWP will want to delve into many other aspects of claimants lives in order to identify the other 85%.  This is, beyond doubt, the thin end of a very thick wedge.

You can download a copy of the amendments to the Data Protection and Digital information Bill here.  The Power To Require Information For Social Security Purposes section begins on page 98.

You can read the impact assessment for the DWP surveillance powers here.

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    · 1 years ago
    Does this include both income and contribution based ESA does anyone know please 
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    · 1 years ago
    Does this include PIP, tax credits, Housing Benefits? I can see Tax Credits mentioned but it references 121DA, which isn't in the document. Can we get some clarity on this? 
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      · 1 years ago
      @Kc Rest assured it will be all accounts if they get this through
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      · 1 years ago
      @Wiggles It includes any income based benefits administered by DWP so does not include PIP or Housing Benefit (Local Authority). However all claims for tax credits and Housing Benefit will end and you will have to make a claim for Universal credit which is administered by DWP and is income based.
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    · 1 years ago
    Surprised, I'm not.

    Did you know that all financial trading organisations, and banks, like Ebay and Paypal, are / have now been obliged to report your trading and balance exceeding £1000 a year to be shared by government department's inc DWP & HMRC and Local Authorities. Using AI to filter the results will mean not only will DWP be on your back if you exceed their thresholds, so will HMRC and Local Authorities where HB or council tax allowances are given. You may also find yourself liable for capital gains tax.
    Should you trade with your hobby on say Ebay, or any platform, and "turnover" more than £1000 a year, your liable, they are obliged to provide the information on you, un-prompted. Whats more, move, spend, attempt to hide or dispose of assets, including money, even from under your mattress, makes you liable for Money Laundering, and subsequent incarceration in prison. Did you also know, your liable for Capital Gains Tax if you sell your possessions worth over £1000, or any of the above collectively.
    The Tories, not having raised allowance thresholds, will have been largely ignored by many, but this brings millions more people into liability. Tied up to this is the little acknowledged digitisation of Health Records, that are being administered by Donal Trumps empire for the UK, which will be covertly available, again to all government departments, who will know more about you than you yourself.

    Happily, there are exceptions, being Off Shore Accounts, Race Horses, and vehicles, funny that.

    So while the snoop law is not yet in force until passed by the Lords and ratified, enough powers are in place and coming together to penalise just about all citizens. Local authorities have jumped the gun, asking for bank statements showing both income AND expenditure. If you get such a demand, refuse until these powers are law. Now why do you think that expenditure might be of interest, yes you guessed it. By the way, postings on this, and any other website will come under the same legislation.

    Welcome to 1984 folks.
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    · 1 years ago
    Several years ago, I had an investigation officer on my doorstep after the DWP found money I had in a savings account. It was extremely distressing, with threats of stopping my benefit, seizure of assets etc. This was money that I did not need to declare because I was not above the capital limit according to the rules - but that didn't stop the DWP reducing my benefit for years and I lost probably around £6000 in total. If the DWP won't follow the rules, they shouldn't expect claimants to. Good luck to anyone genuinely struggling with health issues and not getting enough money to live on - do whatever you need to do to survive - you are not being dishonest.
    I guess that if a kind person gives a donation to charity while in receipt of means-tested benefits, the DWP will deduct the amount from your benefit!
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    · 1 years ago
    How will this catch the fraudsters who work cash in hand? And any self employed not declaring cash? 
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      · 1 years ago
      @Akire24 What about if you have been staying abroad for long periods of times to be with your husband so he can see his daughter ? 
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      · 1 years ago
      @Moss I believe that they have always been able to find out how much you have in savings by the amount of tax you pay each year on your account. Once more than a certain amount is paid hmrc will inform them. So you have to ask what this is going to be for ?? I imagine it will be used mostly for pip to track individuals who say they are unable to do certain things. The payments will show what they are doing day to day for example going to concerts football matchs etc etc

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      · 1 years ago
      @Akire24 So the fraud thing is people saving way above the capital limit etc. whelp I hardly have any savings in any of my bank accounts, whenever I get paid from DWP I spend it on essentials and bills/food more than anything. 

      I think they will find out that a low amount of people actually commit these crimes (or the ones that do it 24/7 are swerving DWP fraud officers). 


      Anyway good luck to all, luckily my bank providers are not in the top UK banks.
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      · 1 years ago
      @John Windom No it is not . Cash transactions have increased this year for the first time in 10 years and cash is used more commonly during recessions or near recessions . Do keep up 
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      · 1 years ago
      @Jaf Excatly if you are fiddling the system then you will work around it. Get wages paid into other peoples accounts. Cash cash cash. Those who accidentally Go over because they are in hospital for months and are not spending anything will be getting harassing fraud letters for
      Owing £50 in back pay. 
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    · 1 years ago
    This is the reason banks are closing, pushing for you to use the App. (Which if you read terms & conditions, they have access to EVERYTHING on your phone)All the surveillance will be done by AI and algorithms. There will be no privacy, don’t have a smart meter either, because they will be able to immediately cut you off, not able to do this yet, but that’s on the cards too.
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      · 1 years ago
      @Mrs M Apps can’t access other apps unless you give permissions or you’ve been hacked. 
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      · 1 years ago
      @Mrs M They can cut you off if you don’t pay 
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    · 1 years ago
    Dwp have just requested my bank statements. They give me the money, they know better than me what I've got in the bank
    And has anyone noticed that when you receive your bank statements it says private and confidential on the envelope?
    I haven't got more than 6k in the bank, they're fully aware of this.
    I'd much sooner have my health back and not have to relay on the benefits system
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      · 1 years ago
      @Kc However you can only be seen to be using your child's bank account for the child.  You can not be seen to be using your child's bank account as if it were your own.
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      · 1 years ago
      @Chris Fenoulhet All the information is contained in your award letter.
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      · 1 years ago
      @siobhan You can have up to £6,000.00 max at any one time.  If you have between £6000.01 to £15,999.99 the excess amount will result in deductions to your benefits.
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      · 1 years ago
      @Chris Fenoulhet £10k for pensionable age and any amount between £10,000.01-£15,999.99 will result in a deduction from your benefits for each £500 over £10k.
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      · 1 years ago
      @siobhan You should open an account in her name and then it will be classed as hers and she could have over £16k and it wouldn't affect your entitlement 
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    · 1 years ago
    So can somebody tell me if this law of banks checking our accounts is already in legacy or nothing happening till 2025. So many info's and comments around.
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      · 1 years ago
      @Akire24 That's what the changes are for. They will do it for anyone receiving an income based benefit. They won't need a warrant or your permission. That's why they are changing the law. 
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      · 1 years ago
      @Scottish Heather They are testing it with 2 banks first. That could start as soon as the law has been changed. 
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      · 1 years ago
      @Nana Theer powers of snooping will start happening from 2025 & not all banks. Only around 15 banks. All the rest will follow suit during & upto 2030.
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      · 1 years ago
      @Nana Happening 2025 as stated on here by benefits and work
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      · 1 years ago
      @Nana They can ask you anytime to show bank statements or go to the bank if and only if they suspect you of fraud. But they have to have a reasonable suspicion it can’t be poking around just in case. 
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    · 1 years ago
    I think this is a gross breach to our rights of privacy. A government targeting the poorest society is really disgraceful 
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      · 1 years ago
      @daz It isn't the only legislation that has gone through unnoticed by the media / public. The European courts won't be an option soon either. The Government want to reverse the Human Rights legislation  and take us out of the EHCR. They are doing this already by pushing through the immigration legislation. Which basically tells the courts to do as the Government says. There is also legislation coming into force in January which affects the working rights of part time workers. The Government is reversing and possibly even worsening the holiday entitlement rights of all part time and temporary workers. There was a case a few years ago, which was taken to the European court, to give part time workers the same holiday entitlement as full time permanent workers. This was successful. There has been lots of lobbying by businesses and the Government weren't happy either with the cost of this. They are able to reverse this now due to Brexit as we don't have to follow European law, we can make our own in areas like this now. The working time directive is also being abolished. They just want everyone working all hours of the day and night regardless of any health condition or disability.


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      · 1 years ago
      @Surealunreal Yeah the sick and disabled thought the days of atos was bad enough jeeso they have stepped things up and stepped right over the line of discrimination 
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      · 1 years ago
      @Max Labour want it too theres literally no difference between them on this stuff
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      · 1 years ago
      @Scottish Heather Dont vote for the main parties as they all want this in
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      · 1 years ago
      @daz Exactly dont expect labour to save you they dont stand for the working class and havent since blair
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    · 1 years ago
    Make no mistake about it, this is just the government and clearly politicians as a whole ramming their foot in the door of the privacy laws and once they break through that barrier then there's no stopping them and it's not just the disabled and pensioners that need to worry.
    I'm a disabled person, like so many others I suffer, 24 hours a day, the physical and psychological pain of my disabilities and as it is we have to suffer the persistent frightening, degrading and depressing process of having our whole life paid bare to any hostile tom, dick or sally the DWP decide to employ and just so we don't starve.
    Where will it end. I dread to think! But the country as a whole should be fighting against this
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      · 1 years ago
      @Jules Well you are awake to it as many are here.  There’s more of us than them and they know it hence they trying to sneak it through.  Don’t let them get away with it
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    · 1 years ago
    Could we not put a petition together and get a huge amount of signatures from the vast swathes or people that would have their basic human rights abused under this legislation and demand that MPs vote to remove this from new law. Also, please could some clever person write up a sample e-mail that we could send to local MPs demanding that these added Orwellian powers do not get voted into law? (Please!)
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      · 1 years ago
      @Wiggles He’s a globalist labour love this big state stuff
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      · 1 years ago
      @K So who would you vote instead in a FPTP system? You will get Tories again obvs @K 
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      · 1 years ago
      @Wiggles Well we should all make sure starmer doesn't get in 
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      · 1 years ago
      @Haden c There is a petition on the gov Uk website, about 80 signatures…….
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      · 1 years ago
      @Haden c They have already been voted in. It just has to go to the Lord's now. Only 51 MPs across all parties voted against. 
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    · 1 years ago
    I think there is a problem using Metadata as a fishing net when used against the whole of society. It takes us from a point where we investigate due to suspicious activity to one where data is used in such an Orwellian manner. The principle is ok but the execution is very worrying. Where do you stop at the flagging and analysis of peoples data? This has worrying consequences for society as a whole.
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      · 1 years ago
      @Ian. Indeed it’s future crime like minority report
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      · 1 years ago
      @Ian. It seems our government want to take our country down the communist China route. 
      All of this was started by Theresa May by signing the Snoopers Charter Act.
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    · 1 years ago
    The court if human rights states you are entitled to privacy. I actually got in touch with them over the dwp investigating me and having all my bank details. I won they dropped the investigation. I was the victim of a malicious phone report.
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      · 1 years ago
      @Michelle Well done
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      · 1 years ago
      @Michelle Got in touch with who? The UK has been dragged over the coals for breaching Human Rights and nothing has happened/changed. In addition, we're looking to remove ourselves from these conventions. 
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    · 1 years ago
    "Initially the DWP say that they will use their powers to oblige the UK’s top 15 banks to monitor the accounts of all means-tested benefits claimants and report every time an account goes over the capital limit"
    I presume the capital limit is £6000 so this will not affect most people anyway, and it has yet to go through parliament. 
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      · 1 years ago
      @karen No not yet I don’t think
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      · 1 years ago
      @Sara No each month they will receive a report from each of the banks. Although it states starts in 2025 they are going to "trial it" with 2 banks first. They haven't said which. Each month they will receive a report stating balance of account. Any monies spent abroad for more than 4 weeks. They are also looking at possibly monies received where from and how much. Any money sent to and from abroad. So the testing could start as soon as next yr as soon as law passed. Only needs to get through the lord's. Already passed in parliament 
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      · 1 years ago
      @Akire24 Thanks that's helpful 
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      · 1 years ago
      @Sara If you got £6k in savings and then the rest in your bank is for bills you will be triggered every month then!  You can have £6k in savings.  My monthly bills and rent is nearly £3,500 so I would have to have £9,500 in the bank which is obviously over the £6k amount.  I would have to disclose what the money in the bank is for every month!
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      · 1 years ago
      @Sara It’s more complicated than that as we are allowed £6000 savings. But say your benefits and rent get paid in takes you obviously over it. Even if say the £1500 in rent goes straight back out to your landlord. The money only counts as savings if it’s been in your account for a month. So after a month of you havnt spend it on bills food etc then it now becomes savings. Other wise the savings would have to be say £4000 to allow Pay and UC and PIP to all go in and not reach the ceiling. It’s going need more software than a balance total alarm. 
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    · 1 years ago
    So if your claiming any benefit ..you can't have anything that people have that don't claim benefits..i.e alcohol cigarettes a holiday .! They are degrading us all, we may be disabled and  chronical ill so does that mean we are not entitled to an evening out for dinner with family? A holiday ? We are expected to sit at home and go nowhere and have nothing ..why ? Because  through no fault of our own we are ill in some way. So being ill in this country makes you deserve nothing ..I would rather not even be here anymore..no privacy and no right to live a half decent life ..do not vote for a Tory government peeps ..keep your head held high ..we ARE deserving just like the rest ! 
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      · 1 years ago
      @Max However all parties voted for it. Only 51 MPs voted against it. So all as bad as each other 
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      · 1 years ago
      @Max No doubt ! They make me sick ..should be held accountable for making the sick and poor sicker and poorer ! 
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      · 1 years ago
      @Akire24 Scared to spend money on anything that they may see as a luxury ! Terrible way to live ..scrutinised 
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      · 1 years ago
      @Fibrolynn They are not going that far yet but who knows. What gets me is I’m lucky I can save on ESA & PIP but they would rather I waste it away if I’m Both have enough saved for my funeral easily 4-5 k and have enough for 
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      · 1 years ago
      @Carys I don't know if I want to vote at all as I don't know who would be best to vote for ! ..what a cruel scary world we live in ...couldn't possibly get any worse ! 
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    · 1 years ago
    I’ve got a bold idea, in the spirit of full transparency - let’s allow checks into MP’s private bank accounts. They’re in public office we need to know they’re not breaking the rules… One rule for you to another for me, tell me this is fair and reasonable again. 
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    · 1 years ago
    This is a sickeningly clear violation of privacy (Joint accounts?) and a very clear indicator that once again the DWP are attacking the disabled to whom they seem to believe are all liars waiting to be caught out. These millions they quote as savings they will make, have they actually released fraud figures supporting it? Or is it just wishful thinking? 

    Labour abstaining, shameful and stupid. They seem to be too busy wanting likes and retweets to actually care about the working class and the welfare state anymore. 

    I will absolutely not cooperate with this invasion, I do not break the rules, and I will not answer questions about where I spend my money, or what I spend it on. If they think I’ve broken a rule they can see me in court. 
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    · 1 years ago
    Well, this is just lovely isn't it? Nice and chilling this; being spied upon from our bank accounts. Mind you, it's just a small part of a total spy network on all of us, claiments and workers, old and young. it's pretty abhorent to say the least. A free democratic society is what we're being told we live in. 

    I fail to see how that is so nowadays. 
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      · 1 years ago
      @JustinR It’s not any more a free or democratic since the Tories voted themselves in the last 5 people 
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    · 1 years ago
    A lot of people in the comments don't seem to be reading the full article. It isn't about DWP being able to view all your transactions etc.

    They can already do that if they suspect fraud and are conducting an investigation. 

    The new rules are to compel banks to provide  lists of accounts where the balance is over the capital allowance or where it is being used abroad. They would then use this info to begin fraud investigations. They already get some info from banks, this is just adding more types of data. 

    Not saying this isn't problematic, but there's no need to start withdrawing all your cash and there's no point spreading fear about something that isn't happening.


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      · 1 years ago
      @Susan They are doing it to people who work they need to collect universal credit because wages are so awful .they created the monster of awfulness and they just get away with piling it on again and again . People have been brainwashed that the unemployed and sick are making it hard for them all their tax they pay in going to the sick end needy .it’s clearly not true it never was and never will be most people that receive a benefit have had to have stamps that means they needed to have worked we all pay in to this system in our times of need and we have all experienced being sick being laid off being sacked it’s life not crime and punishment for something that you already paid into .people need to think about what’s really going on and don’t put up with it .
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      · 1 years ago
      @Deb As part of the law they have changed it so they can request 3rd party spending without a warrant. Previously that had to have evidence of fraud to get a warrant to request information. As part of the law change they won't have to do this anymore. They can just request it if they want to. So yes they won't be doing it to everyone but no longer will they need proof. 
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      · 1 years ago
      @Deb Has a whiff of the social credit system in China.

      China has been rolling out a system that ranks its citizens based on their "social credit." People can be punished if they drive badly, buy too many video games, or steal. It's not a unified, nationwide system, but China plans on eventually making it mandatory for everyone..
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    · 1 years ago
    May I just add…. When the government propose such things… it draws attention
    Whilst we are distracted imo far worse things are quietly being done by them ‘under the radar’ as it were. This gov have done this time and time again so that now at each appalling headline grabbing threat…. I’m like ok but what really going on that they hope we don’t notice. 
    They are a very slimy lot.  The only reason to look at bank accounts should be to identify REAL poverty, and catch those falling and failing in our society. And to catch oligarchs and MPs stuffing their many pockets.