Many commentors on the Benefits and Work website have expressed confusion about where a series of government concessions since Friday, culminating in yesterdays final hour climbdown, leave them.  We’re not surprised.  As one Labour MP said in the debate “I popped out for a banana earlier on and, when I came back in, things had changed again. “

We’ve done our best to explain how matters currently stand with Labour’s welfare reform shambles.

Pip 4-point rule

Last week the government announced that current claimants would be protected from the PIP 4-point rule in the Universal Credit and Personal Independence Payment Bill.  Instead, it would only affect new claimants from November 2026.

But in virtually the final hour of the debate last night, Timms told the Commons:

"I can announce that we are going to remove the clause five from the bill at committee, that we will move straight to the wider review, sometimes referred to as the Timms review, and only make changes to PIP eligibility, activities and descriptors following that review."

Clause 5 is the 4-point rule.

What this means is that the 4-point rule is being removed entirely from the bill.  It will not apply to any claimants at all, at any time.  There is no PIP 4-point rule for anyone.  

Instead, any changes to PIP will be decided by the Timms review. 

 Universal credit

New universal credit (UC) health element claimants from April 2026 will still see their UC health element almost halved and frozen.

Existing UC LCWRA claimants were already protected in the bill  from the cut to the UC health element and in a further concession they are to be protected from the freeze.

Severe conditions criteria

There have been no changes to the extremely hard to meet severe conditions criteria as a result of last night’s debate.

Everything else

The bill only covers those three issues.  Every other proposal, such as the abolition of the WCA, the proposal to amalgamate contributory ESA and JSA into a single time limited contributory benefit  and not paying 18-21 year old PIP recipients the health element of UC is not affected by last night’s vote.  They will all require separate legislation of their own.

Timms review

The Timms review was not due to report until after the 4-point rule had already started.  Now, any changes to PIP will have to wait until after the Timms review makes its recommendations.

In theory, the review could recommend bringing in the 4-point rule.  In practice that would be extraordinarily politically damaging and also unnecessary.  There are many more ways that Labour can cut eligibility to PIP without using that particular device, which was adopted mainly because it was quick and easy to implement.

The review is very wide ranging and is likely to make considerable changes to the PIP assessment, not least as the new single assessment is intended to be the gateway to the UC health element, if the WCA is scrapped. So the points system may look very different by the time Timms reports.

The review is supposed to be coproduced with disabled people.  But what that means in practice we have yet to see.  Green Paper consultations have been an insulting farce and we know the government is keen to halt the rising cost of PIP. 

We also know that Timms is a zealot when it comes to the idea that cutting people’s benefits will make them more likely to find work.

Plus, the secretary of state, currently Liz Kendall, gets to make the final decision on what changes are brought before parliament after the review reports.

So there are still difficult times ahead.

Was there anything positive about last night’s result?

This depends on your point of view. 

The government got their bill through its first vote and that is undoubtedly a bad thing. 

New disabled claimants of UC from April 2026 will be hit very hard by the cut and freeze to the health element.

And the Timms review could still attempt to impose severe cuts on PIP.

But, disabled people and disability groups took on a government with a majority of 165 and an utter contempt for disabled claimants.  They were forced to fight against a bill that was only published on 18 June and is being rushed through parliament at breakneck speed to try to prevent opposition.

And yet, with everything in their favour, the government have been forced into a series of humiliating concessions.  The centrepiece of the bill, the PIP 4-point rule is gone and with it, almost all the £5 billion in savings that Labour planned to make on the backs of disabled claimants.

In fact, there have been so many changes to the bill that even the name is wrong now – it has nothing to do with personal independence payment anymore.  

So yes, in our view there are some very positive things about last night.  But, unfortunately, that doesn’t mean the fight doesn’t go on and on . . . starting with the third reading of the bill on 9 July.

Correction:  we referred to a government amendment in a previous update, this was in fact an amendment from Steve Darling, Liberal Democrat MP.  Thanks to John for pointing this out. 

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    · 19 hours ago
    I have written to my MP who is  Mr Bayo Alaba Who completely ignored my email. There was not even an acknowledgement of receipt. So what do you do when your MP does not respond to his constituents. He did of course, it now transpires, vote for this appalling bill. No surprise there. 
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      · 17 hours ago
      @Alison Gray My MP sent a reply stating he was against the changes to pip yet after the vote it showed a list of who said yes who said no and as for my MP being against it he voted for it to go ahead. 
      That is absolutely disgusting and just shows how corrupt the government is.
      I will wait to see the response I get after telling him he’s as bad as the rest of them, blatantly stating he didn’t agree with any of the planned changes to voting for them, I’m disgusted. 
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    · 19 hours ago
    Liz Kendall got heckled by my MP mid interview while walking past. Shame the mic didn't hear it better. 

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      · 17 hours ago
      @Dee @Dee Good for Sorcha Eastwood. 👍
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    · 19 hours ago
    Protecting existing claimants while cutting benefits for new claimants is exactly the opposite of encouraging disabled people into work, which they claim is the purpose of the cuts.

    Many future claimants are still children or don't yet know they will become disabled. If you can fight the cuts, don't be placated by protections for existing claimants.
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      · 7 hours ago
      @Sarah As is anyone on CB ESA. When the new benefit /temporary insurance runs out we will have to claim the scraps of Health Element AND lose our TP. 
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      · 16 hours ago
      @Sarah Quite so. Anyone is potentially a future claimant.
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    · 19 hours ago
    Thanks B&W team.
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    · 20 hours ago
    It is clear that we do not have a cohesive labour party who are able to find a solution out of this mess. I am scared that we have completely lost control of our borders, we have a labour government who unable to function and a prime minister planning for war. I have mental and physical disabilities but do my very best to live as independantly as i can. I am scared because this government fought each other over a bill that should never have been brought to the house. Without those brave voices standing up for us, where would we be now. I know i would have lost my independance and would have been looking at an assisted living accomodation. I could not have coped with that and my alternative would have been suicide, thats how scared i was before the vote.
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      · 14 hours ago
      @Steffi Though it seems that Labour leadership has lurched to the right, it should be noted that under a Conservatives or Reform government  were in power, a Disability Bill such as this one or worse would have passed without concessions.   Restrictions on PIP eligibility seem inevitable a few years in future but hopefully the severity of the cuts will be lessened yet again by opposition from Labour MPs upholding the traditional values of the party.
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    · 20 hours ago
    From the article "the proposal to amalgamate contributory ESA and JSA into a single time limited contributory benefit"

    What this!!!??? Oh my goodness I didnt know about that. Does anyone know where I can find more details on this pls?

    I been on CB ESA since 2013 in SG, no IR element. Wondering what the proposed plans are for me? Terrified
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    · 20 hours ago
    As usual with governments/ministers/MPs if in doubt kick the can down the road and then worry what to do later Or maybe it just might be someone else's problem by then Always ready to use their back window escape Even after such a bad showing As Scarlet Ohara said Tomorrow is another day I do not trust that the government will do the best for those of us who need to claim disability benefits 
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    · 20 hours ago
    I fear for my son who has mental health adhd n autism as to where this is going to leave him. I didn’t vote labour as sadly they’ve proven they’re not for the working class just themselves. 
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    · 20 hours ago
    And thank you steve for inspiring us all to do in in the first place , you turned many of us around from just reading about it all full of anxiety’s and gloom to us actually being pro active , I think the rest of your community will agree with me your an inspiration and we’re greatful for your input too . 
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      · 17 hours ago
      @Mr P I couldn’t agree more.. thank you Steve and all the B&W team. Thank you also to all the members for taking on the fight.
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      · 18 hours ago
      @Mr P I'll second that
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    · 21 hours ago
    A family member was given a 10 year Pips award in May 2015. He is due for a review. Does any one know how long the backlog is. He has a lifelong condition so assume he will have a soft touch review.?
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      · 10 hours ago
      @Polly Contact them, if they haven't sent forms, or have and its got lost in the post. 
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      · 18 hours ago
      @Polly I sent my review paperwork in January and heard back in April. 
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      · 18 hours ago
      @Polly Please don't assume a light touch on this basis. And do appeal if the decision doesnt go your way. Most appeals win.
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    · 21 hours ago
    I am currently in the process of 'migrating' from ESA Support Group to UC.  So I am not a current claimant for UC, but the transition should be sorted out before April 2026, so I'm not sure if the changes to the UC health element will affect me or not.  Does anyone know?
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      · 15 hours ago
      @Shazza Is not getting transitional protection a problem if you're not worse off than before the change to UC? I'm asking for myself as I am on CB ESA also.
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      · 17 hours ago
      @Mand Hi Mand.
      So to clarify, my husband was also on CB ESA and IR ESA and LCWRA and housing benefit and council tax support before being migrated over to UC in January. 
      ALL went well until yes your CB ESA will be changed to NEW STYLE ESA  This will NOT be at the same rate and yes it is deducted from your UC allowances...BUT, I WARN ANYONE with the exact same benefits you do NOT, I repeat, do NOT get transitional protection. It does not apply, I can't remember exactly why, but something to do with CB ESA(new style esa).
      Next thing, ASK on your journal for tour housing benefit to be paid directly to your landlord. Yes, you can and yes they should be able to do this easily for disabled claimants.
      Then expect a letter from tour local council tax telling you that you owe most or all of the council tax up to the end of the year and they will start deducting amounts each month. RING your council tax department and get that clarified that you are on UC and have migrated and its the DWP that has to inform them which they can easily and quickly do.
      So UC  was fine.
      New style esa was fine..
      Housing benefit was fine.
      Council tax was fine....
      THEN CAME THE BIG PROBLEM....THE START OF THE NEW TAX YEAR.
      EXPECT these issues.
      1) your UC will be £0
      2) your new style esa amount is wrong
      3)your housing benefit will be underpaid
      4)you have to contact your designated person on your journal amd wait...and then if not heard anything within 48 hours you ring the UC helpline who then send a message to tour designated person to instruct them to sort the issues out.
      Great, this all gets done...all hunky dory and then the next month the same happens again, and the next month too.
      It TRANSPIRES THAT INCAPACITY BENEFIT DEPARTMENT ARE INCAPABLE AND HAVE NOT REMOVED MY HUSBAND FROM "INCAPACITY BENEFIT SYSTEM" EVEN THOUGH HE MIGRATED FROM THAT TO ESA BACK IN 2007.
      You then get told its their end amd it's a technical issue and yes you will bave the aggro of ringing them amd then getting your designated person to contact them and it starts all over again and then you find that they have overpaid you so then you have money removed from the following month.
      Hope I haven't scared anyone but this is all true so better to be aware then not..
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      · 18 hours ago
      @Helen C If your UC is in place before April 2026, the new rules will not affect you 
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      · 19 hours ago
      @Helen C the migration should take two weeks from when you claim, so you won't be affected. note in your log that you are migrating from esa support group so regulation 19 applies.
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      · 19 hours ago
      @Helen C I’ve just been through this and if you’re in the support group you should get LCWRA automatically without needing an assessment as long as your claim started before your deadline date . UC have been hopeless , getting information wrong and I found out that I was in receipt of contribution based ESA as well as IR  ESA which you keep and they change it to new style ESA taking it off your UC, they give you transitional protection money so your not worse off but then I discovered that it is taken as income when applying for council tax reduction! I’ve gone from paying £29 a mth to £153 a month council tax ! CAB have said they have worked out my TP money wrongly by overpaying £150 a mth . I claimed on 24/3 even though my deadline day wasn’t until 3/6 and it’s only just now being payed at the same amount each month . I’ve had letters saying I’ve been underpaid then overpaid, it’s been mentally exhausting.  The helpline is useless , if you get housing benefit it stops instantly and I was getting debt letters from the council as UC pay rent in arrears so that was a nightmare too. UC staff say that they’re trained in that and not ESA . I would  advise anyone who is migrating to seek CAB assistance and I hope yours goes more smoothly than mine 



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    · 21 hours ago
    Do any of these "new reforms" affect children's DLA ? 
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    · 21 hours ago
    What happens to some of us who are still on DLA  ? 
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      · 20 hours ago
      @Mike Taylor I'd like to know the answer to this too. My son has been in receipt of Indefinite DLA for 30 years.
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    · 21 hours ago
    I Don't Believe It!

    3:52PM
    Reeves was ‘so close
     to tears’ over Tory welfare cuts
    An old tweet has surfaced in which Rachel Reeves said she was “so close to tears” over the previous Tory government’s welfare cuts.

    Baron Hannan shared a post by the now-Chancellor made before she was a Labour MP in January 2012 as the Conservatives prepared to introduce sweeping reforms to the benefits system.

    Ms Reeves said at the time: “Don’t think I’ve ever been so close to tears as I was at surgery today.

    “Feeling angry at govt welfare reforms that so hurt very ill people.”

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      · 16 hours ago
      @James 'Never Smile At A Crocodile'.
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      · 19 hours ago
      @Yorkie Bard Shocking how two faced these vile people can be !! She should be disgusted in herself for what she was wanting to do to us. Evil woman.
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      · 19 hours ago
      @Yorkie Bard Crocodile tears
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    · 21 hours ago
    I've heard that existing claimants aren't protected, as if they have a review, they become new claimants and the new rules apply. Is this the case? I ask because I'm an appointee for someone who gets enhanced PIP (both sections) and the health part of UC and I have just received a text out of the blue saying they're reviewing his claim. Does that mean he becomes a new claimant?
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      · 10 hours ago
      @Bean It shouldn't be a new claims under the current rules, no
       
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      · 16 hours ago
      @SLB Right, the PIP changes have been pulled, so there is nothing to be protected against is there?
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      · 17 hours ago
      @TomTom Yes that's true they won't be affected, BUT they will use every tactic they know to get the assessors to downgrade the persons ability to do whichever task, and they will try the hardest to get people off it still that way ONCE  the end of your current award is up for review. Cam no one else see this?
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      · 19 hours ago
      @Bean No, they're reviewing his 'existing' claim. It's not treated as a new one.
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      · 20 hours ago
      @Bean Source?
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    · 21 hours ago
    Personally I'm glad they've scrapped the 4-point issue, but for how long will it be before they come up with a different way of tightening the screw on the sick and disabled.  It seems none of the 3 big party's want to protect the needy until enough MPs rebel against it.  There's far better ways to save a few billions but they won't do it as it will cost their own pockets,
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      · 19 hours ago
      @Ian P I agree Ian. The disabled are a quick easy target. It's easier to cut welfare than to go after tax dodgers. Or upset those who give big donations to political parties by changing tax laws so they have to pay more. The mindset in this country now because of right wing politicians is disabled people are liars and scroungers and are receiving  disability payments when they are not entitled to them. If they had to use the system they'd see it from our point of view.
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    · 21 hours ago
    If a person with serious mental health problems and learning difficulties was awarded ESA and life time DLA and the DWP have not yet moved to put them on UC and PIP, where do they stand next year. Will they be considered new claiments and lose most of their benefits
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      · 10 hours ago
      @Purks Yes its a new claim
       I'd be proactive and contact uc ASAP 
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      · 20 hours ago
      @Purks I was awarded lifetime DLA (I was also on esa). I was moved to pip in 2017. They treated it as a new claimant I believe as they removed the lifetime DLA award and gave me pip for a few years and also reduced my mobility element which meant I could not apply for motability - even though I was in a relapse and worse ! 
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      · 20 hours ago
      @Purks If they migrate it’s an ongoing case same way as Housing Benefit migration 
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      · 21 hours ago
      @Purks I believe all should have migrated by march 2026, the new rules to be implemented in the autumn 2026, so should be ok.
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    · 21 hours ago
    I emailed my local MP who replied within 24 hrs, not supporting any changes Labour initially wanted & said he would keep me updated.

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      · 17 hours ago
      @Fibrogal He is my MP as well and also Chief Secretary to the Treasury so there was no doubt he would vote for the bill.
      I have written to him several times and while he does normally reply he never gives an answer if the question is critical of him or the Government 
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      · 20 hours ago
      @Teresa My MP Darren ‘pocket money Jones hasn’t replied to my email and voted for the bill
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    · 22 hours ago
    Thanks for the very informative update. As you say the fight goes on. But against all the odds we should not forget that we won a substantial victory over the Red tories in power. 
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    · 22 hours ago
    I haven’t been moved on to UC yet, when this happens will I be classed as a new claimant?
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      · 17 hours ago
      @jc Yes you're correct. Esa new style is paid every fortnight and it won't be at the same rate you was on as the rest is made up by UC which again gets paid monthly..your claimant commitment is a telephone call whereby the explain that YOU will contact them IF your circumstances change andyou suddenly by some miraculous cure get better and can get a  job? 
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      · 18 hours ago
      @TWebb Get advice from your MP on whether you should move before the migration date or whether you need to go along with the migration process to ensure a seamless no change transition. You will not be able to find reliable information here.
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      · 20 hours ago
      @TWebb If you migrate to UC it’s an ongoing claim make sure you set up and complete your UC account before the migration date you are given 
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      · 20 hours ago
      @TWebb I'm in the process of migration will receive UC on 10th July have got a phone call from  job centre for a claimant commitment for the New style esa, apparently uc is paid monthly and the esa fortnightly 

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