Health secretary Wes Streeting has announced a trial in which unemployed people, as well as some people in work,  will be offered weight loss jabs with the intention of making them more employable.

Announcing the move in the Telegraph, Streeting told the paper “Illness caused by obesity causes people to take an extra four sick days a year on average, while many others are forced out of work altogether.”

He unveiled a £279 million investment from pharmaceutical giant Lilly, collaborating with the government in a project “that includes exploring new ways of delivering health and care services to people living with obesity, and a five-year real-world study of a cutting-edge obesity treatment.”

It is clear that the main focus of the project is to look at whether health interventions can lower the benefits bill, however.  Streeting claimed that “For many people, these weight-loss jabs will be life-changing, help them get back to work, and ease the demands on our NHS.”

The trial will be taking place in Manchester and will look at whether being given the weight loss jabs will reduce workplace absence and increase the chances of being in work.

Benefits and Work would be pleased to hear from anyone invited to join the trial.

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    Peter · 3 hours ago
    I mean as a research question it's fine but obviously has ethical implications. As government policy it's a bit dystopian, espeically if used for government propaganda purposes.

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    Tom · 7 hours ago
    I would NEVER take a  potentially harmful injection, I  lost weight and maintain my weight by EATING    NATURAL PROTEINS high in natural Fat, found in meat fish eggs and dairy, and green veg, Low CARB High FAT lifestyle
     And i have never looked back, Not had any symptoms people call colds or flu  for nearly 10 years, And  this  lifestyle ins  more important today as , my mobility is seriously comprised due to a  fractured  neck  of femur(hip) that  i chose to conservatively manage  (NO  opp)
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      Peter · 2 hours ago
      @Tom Sorry I meant harebrained. And for the record, if that diet is high in saturated fat then it is very very bad for you. Even if you're not putting weight on. The scientific evidence is very clear on this.
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      Peter · 2 hours ago
      @Tom Which is all very well and the government should do a lot more to promote healthy eating.

      Putting what this hairbrained government scheme aside, there is no doubt that some people will benefit greatly from this new class of drugs. Because many of these people have tried their best to follow a healthy diet and failed many times. For them drugs like these are literally potential life savers given the numerous ways obesity can send you to an early grave and give you numerous chronic health problems.
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    Aw · 9 hours ago
    If someone is so obese that it has become a disability then they have either an eating disorder or a physical issue causing weight gain. Neither can be cured by a supposed weight loss jab.

    This is nonsense. Offensive and ableist nonsense at that.
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      MrFibro · 3 hours ago
      @Aw Certain medications can cause weight gain.
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      Tom · 6 hours ago
      @Aw ALLOPATHIC medicine has never been about CURING people, it only “treats” symptoms
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      Sam · 7 hours ago
      @Aw Exactly, if you take away a binge eaters main coping mechanism they are going to deteriorate mentally. How would people react if the government proposed force feeding anorexics so they can work. It's ludicrous!
      Not to mention the people who gained weight due to medications such as steroids, if this became more than a trial will the DWP take into account extenuating factors? Some how I doubtit
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    Jonno · 9 hours ago
    Good article. Especially the summing up at the end. As I said earlier can't see this coming to fruition. 

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    WS · 10 hours ago
    you are a number not a person.
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      MrFibro · 3 hours ago
      @Sadly Simon I doubt it, they should try it on MP's and see if they get side effects etc.
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      Sadly Simon · 8 hours ago
      @MrFibro
      From the article:

      "Up to 3,000 obese patients – a mixture of those in and out of work, and on sickness leave – will be recruited for a five-year study that will explore whether the medication boosts productivity and could bring more people back to the workplace."

      I wonder if there will be disclosure of "side effects" when using this "medication" and how many casualties we'll see.

      The genetics of obesity:

      "Although changes in the environment have undoubtedly driven the rapid increase in prevalence, obesity results from an interaction between environmental and innate biological factors. Crucially, there is a strong genetic component underlying the large interindividual variation in body weight that determines people’s response to this ‘obesogenic’ environment. Twin, family and adoption studies have estimated the heritability of obesity to be between 40% and 70%. As a consequence, genetic approaches can be leveraged to characterize the underlying physiological and molecular mechanisms that control body weight.

      Classically, we have considered obesity in two broad categories: so-called monogenic obesity, which is inherited in a Mendelian pattern, is typically rare, early-onset and severe and involves either small or large chromosomal deletions or single-gene defects; and polygenic obesity (also known as common obesity), which is the result of hundreds of polymorphisms that each have a small effect. Polygenic obesity follows a pattern of heritability that is similar to other complex traits and diseases. Although often considered to be two distinct forms, gene discovery studies of monogenic and polygenic obesity have converged on what seems to be broadly similar underlying biology. Specifically, the central nervous system (CNS) and neuronal pathways that control the hedonic aspects of food intake have emerged as the major drivers of body weight for both monogenic and polygenic obesity. Furthermore, early evidence shows that the expression of mutations causing monogenic obesity may — at least in part — be influenced by the individual’s polygenic susceptibility to obesity."

      Source: https://www.nature.com/articles/s41576-021-00414-z

      Many people reflexively use derogatory language when looking at a person who is overweight, I find my own mind being hyper-critical, yet I also must consider there are determining factors at play through gene expression.

      It is a complex situation to address and I don't see "jabs" being a solution whatsoever, especially considering the potential dire side effects of using this "medication".

      The poor souls engaging in the study should receive ongoing remuneration.
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    Jonno · 11 hours ago
    I can't see this happening. They cannot keep up with current demand as it is.

    Besides, it is demeaning to people on PIP who aren't claiming for reasons of obesity.

    It's as if the Government are suggesting that everyone on PIP are lazy barstewards and their problems are easy to solve when we know the reasons for people claiming the benefit are myriad and complex.

    If this the sort of crap Labour are going to come away with it doesn't bode well for the sick and disabled.
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    A · 11 hours ago
    Unemployed people are going to be used as guinea pigs for drug trials!

    There have already been 222 reported deaths involving people who took Ozempic, and five of them are classified as "sudden death, and thousands who fell ill.

    Some severe potential side effects that may be connected to Ozempic and could lead to death include: Cancer, Deep vein thrombosis, Hypoglycemia, and Seizures or loss of consciousness.

    In the US, more than 17,600 severe health problems after taking Ozempic have been reported, including 7,851 that were deemed serious. There were 6,487 reports of health problems after taking Ozempic in 2023 alone.


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    Jon · 12 hours ago
    The problem with being long term unemployed or sick is the longer you are the less likely anyone will touch you also it's hard to explain the big gap in your CV plus you won't have up-to-date job references
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      A · 7 hours ago
      @Jon You won't need any CV or job references for the kind of jobs Liz Kendall and co. have in mind - fruit picking or packaging warehouse, food delivery and similar, which do not require CV or job references.

      Remember, Mel Stride said early in this year that food delivery was best suited for over 50s!

      They don't care about people getting jobs or what type of jobs they would like to do. All they're after is taking as many claimants as possible off benefits.
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      James h · 8 hours ago
      @Jon @Jon my last employment was 1997 so theirs no point in updating my cv?I had no migration letter yet so going to try and enjoy my last Xmas of peace and quiet and goodwill to all men
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      Sadly Simon · 8 hours ago
      @Jon "big gap in your CV"

      Basically - "lie" or be dumped in the nearest bin.

      A guy I knew years ago, who was able bodied, slightly narcissistic, used to fabricate his CV and managed to weasel his way into ill-suited roles. He had the gift of the gab and a decent suit.

      It's possible to fabricate references as well - with the right connections.

      I think Chat GPT will be working overtime in the future, churning out CVs for the disaffected, unemployable and terminally ill.
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    Sadly Simon · 12 hours ago
    "unveiled a £279 million investment from pharmaceutical giant Lilly"

    Potential "serious" side effects:

    Vision changes.
    Mood regulation issues.
    Heart arythmia.
    Dizziness.
    Thyroid issues.
    Severe stomach cramps.
    Jaundice.
    Kidney issues.
    Stomach-flu-like symptoms.
    Diarrhoea.

    (among other potentialities)

    Would it be unkind to suggest that any member of parliament backing this idea, who themselves are classed as clinically obese, are the first in line for the jab?

    I would think the "occasional" MP who actively despises "fatties" will be salivating at the thought of the useless eaters being jabbed and prodded with poison.

    While CEOs in good old big pharma are cracking open the bubbly in delight.

    Possibly a time to invest our peanuts in specific market shares?


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      Peter · 3 hours ago
      @Sadly Simon Look I am not in favour of what they're trying to do but all drugs have side effects. 

      The point is, you can't just look at them in isolation. You need to look at complications caused by the illness they're trying to treat and obesity is incredibly bad for your health in so many ways.
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      MrFibro · 3 hours ago
      @Sadly Simon Thanks Lilly i'm sure you'll be making billions of the backs of sick people.
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      lesley · 8 hours ago
      @Sadly Simon
      I am sure this has all been tried before.  Overweight unemployed friend of mine had "gastric sleeve" operation for weight loss.  Next think I knew he had died from a heart attack.
      All these measures seem so extreme and unkind, are they forcing people to have these weight loss injections? Sounds like some sort of experiment! The pharmaceutical companies raking it in.

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