A revised document issued by the DWP today confirms that current personal independence payment (PIP) claimants will be covered by the Timms review.  It also states that PIP spending cannot exceed current projections, whatever changes are made.

The Timms review terms of reference have been updated and reissued today, removing all reference to the PIP 4 point system which Labour tried to impose before backing down in the face of a backbench revolt.

However, a number of other changes have been quietly made to the document.

Probably the most important is the addition of a single bullet point to the ‘Principles’ section, which now states:

“the Review will consider how recommendations might be applied to reassessments for people already claiming PIP to ensure it is fair and fit for both new and existing claimants”

The original document made no reference to current claimants, leading some commentators to suggest that the Timms review would only affect new claimants.

However, this additional clause makes it clear that the review will at least consider how any proposed changes could apply to existing claimants when their award is reassessed, though it leaves open the possibility that ultimately some changes  may only apply to new claims.

In addition, a change has been made to another bullet point in the same section.  This originally read:

“the purpose of the Review is to ensure that PIP is fair and fit for the future rather than to generate proposals for further savings.”

However, an additional sentence has now been added stating:

“However, the sustainability of the system is an important consideration and so the Review will operate within the OBR’s projections for future PIP expenditure, to ensure it is there to support generations to come”

In other words, whilst cuts to future PIP spending are not being ruled out, under no circumstances will there be an increase in overall PIP spending.

The steering committee will need to push hard to ensure there is no reduction in projected PIP spending under any new plans.

It will, however, be vital that there is an independent assessment of the cost of any proposed changes, rather than leaving the DWP to come up with their own projections which may deliberately exaggerate how much changes will cost.

And clearly, the concern now is that even if the final bill remains the same, any changes will mean there will be winners and losers amongst individual claimants.

You can download the revised terms of reference here.

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    · 8 days ago
    Again targeting some of the most vunerable people around. If there is a tax of just 5% implemented on the richest in our society. Which I add wouldn't affect their lives in the way these proposed PIP changes would affect the lives of very vunerable people. If this tax was put in place it would make an immediate and substantial difference to the economy. Why is it politicians will not do this? I believe it is because it could directly affect many of them. I am extremely disappointed with the way this government is behaving. Picking out the vunerable time and time again. I have voted Labour all my life and it is something I will never do again. 
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    · 9 days ago
    Hi dep took my pip away enhanced 4 people on bird in Croydon then appeal in Sutton all lied
    I took 4years to get it back 
    Eventually in high court in strand lord chief justice Stephenson i won 11000.00
    Now they want to try again?
    Andy 
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    · 11 days ago
    It’s all ridiculous.

    Currently employers get up to 100 applicants per vacancy.

    How would it affect productivity to employ the disabled, particularly those with mental health conditions?

    You have 99 potential employees you can expect to rely on. Then you have someone with bipolar who under stress can tip into mania, paranoia, risk to safety of others. Will spend more time in hospital than at work!

    Everyone complaining about people with mental health conditions getting benefits will be the first to complain if they had to factor in getting the ill persons workload at a moments notice or complain that the person was employed just because of disability (DEI). Also, the side effects of taking a cocktail of meds taken to function.

    On cars for mental health - they don’t realise that many cannot safely/repeatedly take public transport.

    The silly claims they base their expert opinion on are often found to be bogus - set to inflame demonisation.

    They forget it’s not the diagnosis, but the impact.

    It won’t save much - when you factor in the cars are sold at the end of the lease often in better shape and lower mileage than others. Plus the effect on car industry.

    Familiar tactic used is the claim 50% applying receive the award.  In one case, I think the 50% were accepted a grand total of 12 people.

    Applicants usually have more severe cases.


    Sick of this.

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    · 12 days ago
    How do we actually prove what assistance does for us?  We struggle day in day out, just to survive and now I feel every pair of eyes looking at me when we park up in our Peugout 5008 (the car, motability offered us as the cheapest suitable one available).  I get out of the car and pop in the NHS funded powerchair.  If I look presentable - am I being judged.  Yet my clothes are all second hand and my boots about 6 years old (fortunate part of wheelchair use).  My husband cuts my hair, I don't dye it as can't afford to do it.  We don't eat out very often. We certainly don't go to nice places.  We both volunteer most of our time that I am not asleep or feeling yuk (or even if I am sometimes)  Constant pain, visual impairment now stopping me driving, bladder and bowel incidents that are grim.  G R I M.  for both of us.  I can't do housework.  I struggle to bend at all as it affects my breathing!  Cant tip head back either for different reason.  I suffer with sleep paralysis meaning I become completely paralysed or partially paralysed and need someone to come to move my limbs until the messages start to come through again. Hopefully then I can talk and open my eyes too.  I do not get full PIP even though I need someone with me constantly.  Yet they talk about cutting it further.  AGAIN.  I did get full DLA on lifetime award but that was not enough to keep it with PIP.  What do they expect us to do.  
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    · 13 days ago
    Neither Labour or once again the vile Tories have given up on attacking us and threatening our financial life lines.
    We know the score Tory papers and now vile online so called news outlets and the Tory grovellers that pretend to be journalists have long since painted us as thieves and scammers literally vermin to be hated.
    Easy vulnerable targets more like.
    We found out that labour are as bad as the Tories when they attacked us last year threatening us with a total withdrawal of support.
    They backed down when they got enough emails,letters and calls making it obvious that many mps need our votes to keep their £94,000 plus expenses jobs. They forced the goverment to pull back but they havent given up. Starmer and Reeves are floundering as they mismanage and fail at everything. They will come back at us again not because they will save even 1 % of Goverment spending but simply to look as strong as the Tories or even worse Reform.
    Even today the 11th of November a Tory opposition mp has been demanding changes to stop mobility for people with ADHD or even Tennis Elbow.
    Both these parties will continue to target us because they can it is so easy we are vulnerable easy targets. While they point at us people arent watching the total shambles of their other policies Be prepared to resist again no one is disabled enough to be safe absolutely no one.
    While it is your choice if you are considering voting for Reform please think about. They are and will do their very best to end welfare and a lot of jobs will go as well. Even in limited numbers as mps and councillors they say they will Target waste. By that they mean us be certain of it.

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      · 11 days ago
      @Arthur They give silly figures like saying claims are 50+% for anxiety. 

      That’s misleading because they only count number of applications.

      Those applicants usually have severe cases supported by medical/social care evidence.

      For example 8million people with anxiety 

      Yet less than 100,000 receive enhanced.

      Then an increase in applications - since those complaining about PIP in media are running ads for ‘did you know if you have anxiety, you can get £xxx’ encouraging people to claim.

      Recently people moaning about a social media post of someone claiming they got a car because they ‘said’ they had autism - it referred to a case where the PIP claim had been refused.

      It’s so easy to judge/believe any numbers, particularly when it makes them feel superior. When they have zero knowledge of conditions.
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    · 14 days ago
    As I said back in the summer, getting the entire PIP element of the proposed changes thrown out in the Commons was actually worse than leaving it in - had it been left in, then at least current claimants would have been saved from any changes.   I know people said that it would create a two-tier system, but now no-one is saved from potential changes, so nothing was gained whatsoever.  I can only think that the backbenchers didn't understand this would be the outcome if they kept fighting after the announcement about current claimants being saved.  Yes, now everyone will be under whatever new rules are brought in - but surely saving SOME of that number would have been better than saving none?  Whether any of the changes proposed by Timms will go through or not is debatable, but we could all be worse off from taking the high ground.  
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      · 12 days ago
      @SLB no one was safe.  Like the UC managed migratiom=Manged Robberry.  They will finally get everyone to lose out!   They always say, it applies only to new claimants!   We will only cut £30 from the new peolple.  All lies!  Like with the pension age.   They keep changing and changing.  Untill all will be included!
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    · 14 days ago
    I'm confused. Is this all if Reform win the next election?

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    · 14 days ago
    Timms had better watch it.. Those Labour bankbencers kicked up hell when they we're threatening the disabled previously and there inboxes will be filled up again. TIMMS BEWARE.
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      · 13 days ago
      @Sandra Bowes-Rennox You are 100% correct but those in boxes need to be filled by emails,letters, phone calls and even face to face meetings with those labour Mps who depend on our votes to keep their lucrative careers. 
      This is much harder for people with daily health issues to do but we have no choice. No one is safe when they start trying to reassess people the systems are designed only to fail people nothing else. A few key strokes can leave anyone without income facing months of mandatory reconsideration,appeals,tribunals and reapplication
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    · 14 days ago
    This is mostly scaremongering aimed at potential Reform voters. They have no concrete plans to replace motability cars with 3 wheel cars at all. To mention just ONE point....
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    · 14 days ago
    I am shocked that for one days work a disabled person opting to go on the Timms panel (who are not exactly working in our favour) is going to get £300.00 a day plus travel and sustenance expenses …they will work for one day a week . No wonder the country is crying out for help …. What wage are the rest of the panel on … it beggars belief ….
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      · 14 days ago
      @Goldstar 22 Really?  A day's work, plus all of the time spent on the travel in getting there (maybe two hours each way), plus all of the required preparatory reading etc?  It seems perfectly reasonable for what could turn out to be an overnight stay plus a day of work and more time spent prepping.   At the most that comes to £25 an hour (probably less) - the average cost of a gardener.

      It's rather like people thinking that associate tutors in universities get £40 for one hour of teaching.  It's not.  It's the hour of teaching, plus reading the required reading (probably two hours), preparing the seminar or writing the lecture, and any meeting with students after.  In other words, less than the minimum wage.  
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    · 14 days ago
    Timms is supposed to be a self professed man of god , his attitude towards the mentally and the sick is truly disgusting, shame he doesn't act in a Christian charitable manner 
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    · 14 days ago

    The recent updates from the DWP regarding the Timms review evoke a mix of hope and apprehension. While it’s reassuring that current PIP claimants will be included in the scope of the review, the ongoing uncertainties surrounding potential changes add significant stress for those of us who rely on this support.

    While the acknowledgement that reassessments will consider fairness for existing claimants is a step in the right direction, I struggle to fully trust that current claimants will be safe. The government has a troubling history of misinformation and poor decisions regarding benefits, often contradicting itself, which only exacerbates our anxiety. The focus on sustainability raises concerns about the potential for difficult choices ahead, particularly with the risk of creating "winners and losers" among claimants.

    For individuals like me, navigating severe mental health challenges and fibromyalgia, the constant fear of losing PIP adds a heavy weight to our daily lives. It’s essential that any proposed changes not only uphold fairness but also genuinely reflect the realities faced by those of us living with disabilities. Furthermore, an independent assessment of the financial implications of any proposed changes is crucial for ensuring transparency and accountability. The stakes are incredibly high, and we must advocate for a system that prioritises the well-being of all claimants while remaining sustainable.


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      · 14 days ago
      @Brightstar Helenlou2
      I agree with Brightstar, I have d3formed fingers and several other physical disabilities, as well anxiety disorder. I dread losing my PIP and end up on the bare minimum after paying for a spare bedroom. I am 58 years old and have had physical problems all of my life with being spina bifida.
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    · 15 days ago
    26th May Timms said 

    The Department for Work and Pensions (DWP) is set to introduce new changes to eligibility and assessments for Personal Independence Payment (PIP) from November 2026. The welfare reforms will impact new and existing claimants, however, Minister for Social Security and Disability Sir Stephen Timms, has confirmed that people of State Pension age will “not be affected by the proposed changes”.
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    · 19 days ago
    The Timms review is just a cover for PIP cuts. Instead of announcing multiple cuts all at once a piecemeal approach designed to go under that radar are being prepared.
    According to an article in The Canary just 12 disabled people are involved. It's a shame disabled organisations are going along with it and even claiming to have influenced it positively. Timms and Labour are no friends of disabled people much to their shame.
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    · 19 days ago
    As far as the Timms Review goes when they say they will stay within the current spending forecasts. The current OBR/Treasury forecasts they want to stay within already have more cuts than have currently been done. As the forecasts include savings that would have been made if the Tories had implemented the cuts they announced when they were in government. Labour at the general election stated they would not do the cuts the Tories announced but would make the same amount of cuts to welfare spending by different means.

    Also stay within does means not spending more. It does not rule out spending less, making larger cuts.

    As far as the government choosing to have no pathways to work white paper. That is due to the government believing announcing the cuts all at once and trying to pass most of them in a single bill would be difficult. While announcing them one at a time and getting parliament to agree to them one at time would be easier. Pat McFadden was appointed DWP minister because he is seen as a political fixer a man who can get things done. He was not appointed due to knowing anything about the DWP or to abandon the planed cuts. He was appointed to corral Labour MPs and get the cuts through parliament.  
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      · 14 days ago
      @Dez Why don't they do a thorough review of political spending, with emphasis on individual spending. Already 3 labour ministers, 2 already had to resign have lied with regards to policy you and I would have been prosecuted over. Lee Anderson, is an absolute disgrace, regarding remarks he made about disallowed individuals. Clearly a bully, let's hope he doesn't have any real power in future government, or God help us all.  It is always the vulnerable, that governments target, an easy touch. Many of us had to resign from well paying careers, and are just about managing, without further cuts, or the added street!!!!
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      · 19 days ago
      @Dez I am even more cynical I think the media is deliberately falsely portraying Labour as having failed to make welfare cuts and having abandoned welfare cuts. So when in the budget it is announced UC standard allowance is going up by more than inflation and taxes are going up, they can paint Labour as being for the shirkers not the workers.
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      · 19 days ago
      @John Agreed with all of this. I'm annoyed at how the media is presenting this as Labour "shelving" the plans and people believing it when we still have the Timms review and the whole replacing the WCA with a new PIP assessment proposal to worry about amongst everything else planned out in the Green Paper.

      The only reason certain outlets are reporting the plans are being "shelved" is because disabled individuals and organisations are getting involved in the Timms review vs. the usual right wing think tanks who think we shouldn't get anything and they're annoyed that the review is being "reeled in" by people in our camp before it's even started. 

      It's almost like disabled people and disability organisations should be consulted on how disabled people should be treated fairly and not rich right wing politicians and their apologists. Such a travesty. Funny how there's been no such complaints when it comes to Lee Anderson and him using his experience with Citizens Advice to villainise us.
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      · 14 days ago
      @Timothy Not sure you can trust what any social media or reports say at present 
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      · 19 days ago
      @Tim Who Dares Wins.
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      · 19 days ago
      @Anon I don't understand that one
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      · 19 days ago
      @Timothy Yes, this is headline news in the Telegraph 

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      · 19 days ago
      @Neil Cook It'd calm me down as well. I've retired but if I lost my PiP I'd be housebound.
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    · 20 days ago
    https://www.thecanary.co/uk/analysis/2025/10/30/dwp-pathways-to-work/

    Almost 50k responses 

    To put that into perspective when comparing to the last 2 previous consultations run by the dwp - the pip consultation last year got about 16k responses and the previous to that wca consultation (in 2023) got less than 2k responses 

    No wonder the gov is trying to sneak the results quietly towards the direction of a bin (and many disabled didn’t bother responding to this most recent consultation as it was a total sham and a consultation in name only - if dwp under Labour had engaged how they legally should of I think the number of responses would of been bigger still)
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    · 20 days ago
    This won't fly with backbenchers. As barbaric as the 4 point rule was, it wasn't throwing out the whole assessment and making it harder to score points like Timms is obviously planning. They'll most likely be forced to guarantee protection for existing claims yet again.

    My guess is they're probably hoping they'll be able to depend on Conservative support in the event of another rebellion so whatever they've got planned at the end of this review is already not looking pretty if they no longer care about keeping this particular pledge to backbenchers. I also suspect the rumblings of breaking the promise to not raise taxes in the upcoming Budget has something to do with this as well.

    "Oh, yes, we're raising taxes! But don't worry, we're going to cut disability benefits next year and that'll fix the economy and we can reduce taxes then - pinky swear!"

    And people will fall for it, naturally.
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      · 14 days ago
      @Anon Same old nonsense from this lot, actualluy worse than last and that takes sopme doing so let them give themselves a pat on the back for that if nothing else. However blaming tghe sick, unemployed, disabled etc for the mess the uk economy is effectively in is down to mismaangemet, spanning past 30 years.They need to take smome real responsibility and stop with all this soundbite rubbish, not many will be buying it 
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      · 18 days ago
      @John The Rt Hon Marie Tidball in Sheffield seems to be one of them?
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      · 20 days ago
      @Anon I expect enough Labour MPs will back PIP changes recommend by the Timms review. They have a rose tinted view of Timms and his review. And they think the review makes cuts easier to justify to their voters.

      I cannot see Starmer passing PIP reform on Tory votes. I think doing so would make his position as Labour leader untenable. 
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    · 20 days ago
    They could be looking for a way to implement the principle of the 4 point rule - by demanding higher overall points score, for example, to qualify for various elements. Very sly, to maintain the possibility for existing claimants' awards to be downgraded on reassessment, and typical of Timms's doublespeak, like when he wouldn't commit before to protecting existing claimants/pensioners.

    We might have to rally another back bench rebellion.
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      · 1 days ago
      @John I've been involved as a service user in many consultations, local and national, and it's merely so that those wanting to make negative changes can say they heard from service users. Our voices usually make up 5% of the total score.
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      · 14 days ago
      @rookie I worked with Timms he was a big wig in London Borough of Newham and a horrible man 
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      · 18 days ago
      @John Thank you John i hope what you say is 💯 true. What happens of you are on light touch and some medications are reduced albeit due to side effects, do you think this would trigger an assessment? 
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      · 19 days ago
      @keepingitreal PIP already operates more than one review system.

      For PIP awards with a end date claimants have to reapply for PIP when their award is coming to it's end. The reassessment for them is the same as for a new claim.

      For ongoing/indefinite PIP awards there is no end date they have a light touch review every 10 years. People with these awards are expected to be eligible for life. The main purpose of the light touch review is to check they are still alive and the DWP contact details for them are upto date. A light touch review is basically have your health conditions changed, have your care needs changed, have your mobility needs changed. If the claimant ticks no change the light touch review gets rubber stamped and thats it for another 10 years. There is no reassment.

      Timm's has repeatedly stated the above distinction would remain. That pensioners as they are almost all on ongoing/indefinite awards will be unaffected. As the are not routinely reassed, just light touch reviewed.

      The DWP also already has multiple disability assessment systems. DLA for those aged under 16, and for legacy DLA claimants who were on DLA when they reached state pension age. PIP for those aged 16 or over and those pensioners who were on PIP when they reached state pension age. Attendance Allowance for those who started a claim after reaching state pension age. Then there are the less common benefits for those whose disability was due to being in the armed forces or due to a industrial injury. 
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      · 19 days ago
      @John Of course he's given the impression of making a distinction, but that's just so he doesn't have to commit, and because he hasn't worked out yet how, or whether, to operate more than one review process.
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