Ten major charities have issued a joint briefing condemning the Universal Credit and Personal Independence Payment Bill as Labour continues to insist it will go ahead with Tuesdays vote, in spite of a large scale rebellion.

The charities behind the report are:  Scope, Trussel, Mind, Citizens Advice, Sense, Joseph Rowntree Foundation, New Economics Foundation, Child Poverty Action Group, Z2K, Turn2Us.

Amongst the finding is the briefing are:

As a % of GDP, the UK government is spending the same amount on working-age benefits as it was in 2015. This stands at around 5% and is not projected to change by 2030. This is because we have seen deep cuts to benefits like Universal Credit alongside the increase in people claiming health and disability benefits.

We spend a similar amount on these benefits as comparable countries in the OECD. Even considering the more recent increase in claims, our overall spend on disability benefits as a % of GDP is similar to or lower than that of countries including France, Australia and New Zealand.

The provisions in this bill would reduce support for over 3.2 million disabled people. They will push between 300,000 and 400,000 people into poverty. They will also drive 440,000 people in disabled households into severe hardship – a measure of deep poverty which captures people likely to need to use a food bank.

Added investment in employment support will, at most, result in between 1-3% of the 3.2m people seeing their support cut move into work.

 83% of the public has heard of the planned cuts, with 58% saying they are a bad idea and just 32% saying they are a good idea.

You can download a copy of the joint briefing from this link.  Definitely worth sending details to your MP, regardless of whether they signed the amendment.  Sadly, unless Labour cancel the vote on the bill scheduled for Tuesday, then there is no reason for campaigners to ease off.

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    · 10 minutes ago
    ā€˜The BBC's chief political correspondent Henry Zeffman said some cabinet members were "taken aback by quite how sour the mood is on this issue and fearful that might bleed into a broader problem for this Labour leadership".

    Seriously, these people need their ears checked!!

    ā€˜A source close to the issue told the BBC on Tuesday night: "Once you take a breath, it is better to save some of the welfare package than lose all of it."

    MO Samantha Niblett has withdrawn her signature - not a good look. The only one so far.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cy4ymj00px7o
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    · 43 minutes ago
    Should be interesting!

    The Work and Pensions Committee

    Upcoming events
    Wednesday
    25 June 2025
    9:45am
    Public

    Get Britain Working: Pathways to Work - Oral evidence
    9:45am

    Rt Hon Sir Stephen Timms (Minister for Social Security and Disability at Department for Work and Pensions)

    Katherine Pateman (Deputy Director, Disability Benefits Division, Policy Group at Department for Work and Pensions)

    Shaun Butcher (Deputy Director, Disability Lead Analyst at Department for Work and Pensions)
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    · 1 hours ago
    Surprising result from a poll in the Independent today.
    The results are live & are shown as soon as you vote.

    Question Do you support the proposed disability benefit cuts?

    15% - Yes - the system needs reform
    62% - No -they unfairly target vulnerable people
    23% - I support reform, but not through benefit cuts

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    · 1 hours ago
    Is it me - or does this get better every day?Ā 

    Parliament is due to vote on the government's welfare reform plans next week.

    It is still up to the Speaker of the House of Commons Sir Lindsay Hoyle whether this specific amendment gets voted on, but that could now be more likely as a number of other MPs from parties including the SDLP and the DUP have also added their names to the list.

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    · 1 hours ago
    Looks like the vote is going to be delayed, as Rachel Reeves begs rebel MPs not to undermine the Governments economic plans.
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    · 2 hours ago
    The Conservative leader needs to go, so does Liz Kendell and Rachel Reeves, none of them can be trusted and since Conservative where and including Labour I am much poorer,
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    · 3 hours ago
    according to news today june 25, the whips are putting it about that the welfare reforms are a confidence vote in Starmer to scare the mps into voting for the cuts.
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      · 16 minutes ago
      @shadowpony I've also seen the numbers signing the amendment is over 130. Hoyle will have to let it in next week due to the scale of the rebellion. Apparently there is panic in Number 10. If the numbers stay north of 100 by the weekend do not be surprised if the bill is pulled.Ā  However, this is merely a stay of execution for the disability welfare cuts: whoever forms the next Government, a similar Bill to the one proposed by Labour will be tabled (and probably passed).
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      · 35 minutes ago
      @shadowpony Does that mean they are threatening to call a general election if Starmer loses the vote. Starmer putting his ego before the party and the nation. And in effect saying you may think my disability welfare cuts are bad but if you do not support them you will get far worse under Reform. Or does that mean Starmer will have Labour hold a new leadership contest in which he will not stand, and he or the deputy Labour Leader will fill in as leader in the meantime. So Labour potentially shifts to the left.
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    · 9 hours ago
    134 according to IITVX &Ā standard.co.uk
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    · 11 hours ago
    Now 127!

    Widespread Labour dissent over welfare bill is sign things are going very badly for Starmer

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      · 7 hours ago
      @Yorkie Bard He doesn't care, as long as he's validated by the minuscule group that owns the Labour Party led by T. Blair. This group is the originator and orchestrator of the infamous proposals behind the scenes. These proposals are mainly extracted from the report concocted by Blairite A. Milburn.

      Have you heard of T. Blair, David Blunkett, etc., saying anything about these detrimental cuts?
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    · 11 hours ago
    Providing this bill is doomed (we hope), where next?

    Starmer looks like a rabbit in headlights when faced with this kind of thing.Ā  He doesn't know what to do when things don't go his way or someone asks questions that aren't expected.Ā  I'm not sure he even comprehends that his MPs can vote against him.Ā 

    No matter what happens (and we all hope this is kicked into the tall grass) eventually there will have to be benefit cuts of some nature.Ā  Ā But it's almost as if the government don't actually know the difference between PIP and LCWRA.Ā Ā 

    PIP is for covering the extra expenditure that chronic illness and disabilities might cause.Ā  LCWRA is for those not fit enough to work.Ā  Often, these two groups crossover, as we might expect.Ā  But not all the time.Ā  There seems to be no understanding among MPs and the public, for example, that you might be too ill to work BUT you might not suffer from extra expenditure because of the condition.Ā  Ā And vice versa - you might suffer extra expenditure from your condition, but can actually work to some degree.Ā  Ā And that is why replacing the WCA with the PIP assessment is utterly ridiculous.Ā  And isn't cost effective,Ā  because if it's "both" or "nothing" they're going to sometimes be paying two lots of benefit to some people who actually should only get one.Ā Ā 

    PIP does need reform.Ā  Some people get it when they probably shouldn't - because the condition doesn't cost them money on a day to day basis.Ā  And some people don't get it that should: for example, people with dietary restrictions - their food bill is much higher than the average person, but that doesn't get mentioned in PIP, let alone covered.Ā Ā 

    But it's more nuanced than that.Ā  I certainly don't buy into the govt's line that 1,000 new people get it everyday and shouldn't.Ā  That's absurd.Ā  It's ridiculously hard to get, especially when it's weighted towards physical conditions instead of mental health ones.Ā  And there is the massive problem: that while a condition might not ordinarily cost the sufferer more money, it might do simply because the NHS isn't able to do what it should.Ā  People are paying for their own therapists, for example, with a condition that otherwise wouldn't cost them anything extra.Ā  So how does all of that get factored in - and shouldn't that be compensated by PIP?

    What I'm trying to say is that the issues with PIP and benefits in general are too damned complex to ever be solved with one stroke in the way the govt is intending.Ā  If the NHS can't provide basic services such as therapy (whether for mind or body), these issues aren't going to go away, and people are not going to be fit to work.Ā  If benefit claimants have gone up since Covid, it's because many went two years without seeing therapists or physiotherapists etc and are now paying the price.Ā  What's more, the govt isn't recognising the extra people on working age benefits because the pension age has risen.Ā 

    If any govt really wants to get to grip with this situation, they have to make changes outside of benefits first:Ā  fix the NHS, sort out mental health care, make sure our infrastructure can cope with any disabled people who go back to work, educate and run courses for employers on how to accomodate the disabled, make sure our transport system (including taxis) is fit for purpose.Ā  Until those things happen, the benefits bill will continue to rise, and we will remain as scapegoats for govt failure.Ā Ā 
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      · 32 minutes ago
      @John Local gov should be against these reforms. They don’t have the funding to support existing care needs let alone the deluge of applications if PIP is removed plus carer support.Ā 

      Family care alone must save local gov millions. Ā The carer allowance is a pittance in comparison to what private companies charge for care. Ā 

      I doubt the gov will adequately find their ā€œnewā€ responsibilities.Ā 
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      · 8 hours ago
      @SLB DLA and PIP are benefits designed to give the most support to those who face the greatest barriers to leading full and active lives and participating in society. It is a quality of life benefit with the aim of making the disabled person's life more worth living. The eligibility criteria is just a proxy for level of disability it is not literally what the money is intended to be spent on. Someone who has mobility needs could spend it on taxis or could spend it on a big TV or could spend it on redecorating their home, all are appropriate and good uses of the money.

      As the government has sought to cut disability benefits they have sought to redefine what DLA and PIP are intended for as to only cover the extra costs directly caused by disability. So they can justify cutting it for most recipients. And can claim it was never intended for many people receiving it today especially those with mental health conditions. Justify replacing PIP with one off payments or vouchers to ensure the money is spent as "intended", and instead give the money to local authorities to provide services.

      And sought to portray the benefit as overly generous, disabled people living lives of luxury, and the benefit suffering widespread abuse/fraud.

      Incapacity premiums like UC health above able unemployment benefit are designed to provide those who cannot work with long-term support and some quality of life. As able unemployment benefit is by design set at a level that is punitive and only suitable for short term subsistence. So the able unemployed are forced into work through poverty.

      As the government has sought to cut incapacity benefits it has taken several paths. It has redefine people as work capable so undeserving of more than the able unemployed. This includes misrepresenting people assessd as effectively incapable of paid employment as work capable, the misleadingly name work related activity group, and the time limiting of contributions based for them to 12 months on the basis of by then they should be able to get a job. It has portrayed incapacity premiums as a perverse incentive to be disabled. As if disability is a aberrant lifestyle choice. And portrayed the premiums as too generous and suffering from widespread abuse/fraud.

      The sad reality is even with PIP and UC health many disabled people suffer poverty, material deprivation, inability to afford a healthy diet, and in some cases rely on charity food banks. Painting some disabled people of undeserving of the benefits they receive is not helpful. It just buys into the government's narratives and will lead to greater poverty.Ā 
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    · 12 hours ago
    Why would anybody join with the Tories and cave into their demands, when they were in power the proposals they came up with were utterely ludicrousĀ  and I responded to the consultation to say so.Ā  I also wrote to my MP expressing my disgust at their ideas, which of course were vouchers, invoicing, or one off payments for an item or maybe nothing at all.Ā  And then she talks about targetting the mobility element, I thought we had gone quiet on that.Ā  All of them need to be honest, difficult for all them I know, but they are not going to provide support to get people into work, mainly because there is no work, and from my memory they were next door to useles.
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    · 13 hours ago
    Politics UK reporting this this evening on their X page.

    NEW: The vote on the Government’s welfare reform Bill next week is set to be delayed as Keir Starmer’s aides look to find concessions to get the support of rebels

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    @thetimes
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      · 4 hours ago
      @Matt I cant’t see confirmation anywhere else yet
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      · 5 hours ago
      @tintack Do you mean abolish the change planned for/in 2028 for UC/LCWRA? coz if so....YES PLEASE
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      · 5 hours ago
      @GLB Sounds like a right little Kermit doesn't he?
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      · 11 hours ago
      @Gingin Has this definitely being confirmed?
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      · 11 hours ago
      @Gingin I'll keep the apple juice chilling.
      But things are definitely hotting up.šŸ„‚ā˜•ļøšŸøšŸ¹
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    · 13 hours ago
    I don't want to get too optimistic, because any setback will have a big impact on my health so I have to assume the worst and hope for the best. But it seems that some MP's and charities are standing up for what is right. Hopefully more will join in and this issue will gain traction. I really hope so. We need something to hang on too. Love and support to you all. Keep fighting.Ā 
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    · 13 hours ago
    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/labour-welfare-cuts-disability-benefits-starmer-b2775890.html

    If millions of lives weren’t on the line I’d be getting popcorn as this saga is more eventful than the average British soap the past 48hrs

    I thought it was ludicrous 3 months back that disability cuts would even graze starmers premiership but there’s a really small chance starmers leadership could collapse due the repercussions (less than 1% mind but still mind blowing)

    Little bit of faith in humanity restored by those 100 Labour mp rebels actions this week

    On kemi - honestly it’s taken her a week longer to realise she could present a ransom to starmer as she did a couple of hours ago so not surprised but think she’s dumb by not spotting the tactic earlier.

    Whatever happens tories are at least 90% guaranteed to get a huge middle finger over starmer (tories know they won’t attract disabled voters so this latest tactic is of little risk to kemi - though there are some very decent people who are faithfully lifelong tories and from chatting to those that are family friends I think a number of the decent Tory voters may also be uneasy about this bill too)
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    · 14 hours ago
    my email to my MP, you can copy and paste:

    I recently reviewed the list of MPs who have signed the amendment to the Universal Credit and Personal Independence Payment (PIP) Bill, and I was disappointed not to see your name among them. I am writing to draw your attention to critical findings from a joint briefing by ten leading charities, all of whom strongly oppose this bill.
    The charities behind this briefing include:
    Scope
    Trussell Trust
    Mind
    Citizens Advice
    Sense
    Joseph Rowntree Foundation
    New Economics Foundation
    Child Poverty Action Group
    Z2K
    Turn2us
    Key Findings from the Briefing:
    Spending on Benefits Has Not Increased
    The UK spends roughly 5% of GDP on working-age benefits—the same as in 2015—with no projected increase by 2030.
    Cuts to Universal Credit have offset rising claims for health and disability support.
    Comparable Spending to Other Nations
    The UK’s spending on disability benefits is similar to or lower than countries like France, Australia, and New Zealand, even with recent increases in claims.
    Devastating Impact of the Bill
    Over 3.2 million disabled people will lose support.
    300,000–400,000 people will be pushed into poverty.
    440,000 disabled households will face severe hardship, likely needing food banks.
    Flawed Employment Support Assumptions
    Even with additional employment support, only 1–3% of those affected (32,000–96,000 people) are expected to find work.
    Public Opposition
    83% of the public are aware of the planned cuts.
    58% oppose them, while only 32% support the changes.
    A Broken Promise to Disabled People
    Last April, the Conservative government allowed the right-wing media to escalate attacks on disabled claimants, with some outlets labeling us "parasites"—a narrative that persists. While their proposals (such as replacing cash with vouchers or requiring secondary care diagnoses for PIP) were harsh, they at least maintained some form of support.
    Now, the Labour government is proposing something even worse: removing support entirely (cash or vouchers) for hundreds of thousands of people—a move the Conservatives wouldn’t have dared.
    We Are Not Numbers—We Are Lives
    For disabled people, financial support is a lifeline. With soaring living costs and unaffordable housing, these cuts are a death sentence for many. Taking Ā£5 billion from disabled Britons won’t "fix" the economy—it reveals this government’s moral failure.
    My Appeal to You
    I urge you to stand with disabled constituents by:
    Publicly opposing this bill.
    Supporting amendments to protect PIP and Universal Credit.
    Challenging the narrative that disabled people are a burden.
    This is about justice, not charity. Will you fight for us?
    Yours sincerely,
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    · 15 hours ago
    Apparently, Labour have responded to Badenoch's demands with:

    "A Labour spokesperson said: "We're fixing the abysmal mess the Tories left behind, and MPs can either vote to keep a broken, failed welfare system that writes people off, or they can vote to start fixing it.

    "Next week's Bill is a test for the Leader of the Opposition as to whether her party has learned anything at all by being roundly rejected by Britain."

    So, basically: ha, rich of you to give us advice on how to "actually" reform the welfare system after you got destroyed in the GE last year!

    Which would be a solid burn if it seemed like you didn't need their votes but hey, maybe Starmer knows something we and the rebel MPs don't.
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      · 12 hours ago
      @Dez This excuse simply no longer holds water! They sat on their backside when in opposition as got paid as shadows but were doing nothing. I think they were equally surprised they won not because of their efforts but because the public felt so let down by the tories.Ā 
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    · 15 hours ago
    From the BBC:

    Tory Leader Kemi Badenoch said if Sir Keir was "serious" about passing his welfare reforms "he should look again what he can do with us," but warned she would not give the government a "blank cheque".
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      · 7 hours ago
      @Marc Yes and this bargaining makes it open season on disabled people and their families as targets for hatred.Ā 

      It’s shocking how low Labour leadership have sunk.Ā 
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      · 13 hours ago
      @Slb The Uniparty just causally and very publicly bargaining with the lives of disabled and vulnerable people like some politcal football. We are ruled by ghouls so depraved that I'd have them all locked up in the name of public safety.
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      · 14 hours ago
      @Slb And split his party? Not a chanceĀ 
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    · 15 hours ago
    Kemi Badenoch is offering to support Starmer's welfare cuts if he works with the Tories. The Tories want bigger cuts to disability benefits, in particular they want those with mental health conditions targeted more, and mobility component targeted as well as daily living component.Ā 
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      · 13 hours ago
      @john She also in her 3 terms wants no more tax rises this autumn as one of her conditions to back the bill.

      It’s 99% on the more tax hikes are coming so if starmer ā€˜agrees’ to kemis terms he’d almost certainly be doing so with fingers crossed behind his back

      Which would give kemi further ammo and scandal to blow up in 3-5 months time

      If starmer was playing chess he wouldn’t be checkmated but his first ā€œcheckā€ of the ā€˜game’ may be approachingĀ 
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      · 15 hours ago
      @john Evil ********
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    · 15 hours ago
    ā€œThis ends one of two ways: either we sack him (Starmer) or he sacks her (Reeves),ā€ the MP said.

    The chancellor is being blamed more for the push to cut welfare than the beleaguered work and pensions secretary Liz Kendall, who has to try to win the vote.


    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/labour-welfare-cuts-disability-benefits-starmer-b2775890.html

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