Labour is leaving millions of claimants in a state of anxiety as it reveals that it is looking at the responses to the Conservative’s green paper on PIP which suggested, amongst other things, the possibility of paying the benefit as vouchers rather than cash.

The Conservatives published a Green Paper on the future of PIP in April 2024.  Amongst the proposals were suggestions that instead of regular cash payments, PIP could be replaced with:

  • A catalogue/shop scheme
  • A voucher scheme
  • A receipt based system
  • One-off grants

The consultation period for the Green Paper ended on 22 July and we know that many of our readers took part and are desperate to know the outcome.

Liberal Democrat peer Baroness Thomas of Winchester tabled a question for the DWP in the House of Lords:

“To ask His Majesty's Government whether they have any plans to change the personal independence payment assessment.”

Yesterday, the answer came from Baroness Sherlock, the DWP minister in the House of Lords:

“We will be engaging with the responses people have made to the previous government's consultation on Personal Independence Payment, which closed on Monday 22 July.

“We want to thank the many people who invested their time in responding.

“We will be considering our own approach to social security in due course.”

The response by Baroness Sherlock makes it seem unlikely that there will be any official statement on PIP changes before the parliamentary summer recess, which lasts from 30 July until 2 September.

However, the House of Commons goes into recess again for the party conference season from 13 September until 6 October.

So, there is a real possibility that PIP claimants will be left without any news for several months.

Written questions by MPs to the secretary of state about the PIP consultation and about WCA changes have yet to receive answers.  We suspect that any responses will simply be stalling ones, but we’ll keep readers posted if we learn anything more.

 

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    Disy · 4 days ago
    Just what do they have planned for the Disabled and Vulnerable

    It seems simple right but one of the most tragic and reckless decisions during the pandemic was the release of elderly patients into care homes without proper testing or isolation. This led to widespread COVID-19 outbreaks, causing countless preventable deaths and clearly showing the then government’s inability to protect the most vulnerable. Given this kind of track record, how can we trust any politician, regardless of flavour, to handle any reform to the PIP process fairly? It's disabled people across the UK who will continue to bear the brunt. Labour is no better than the Tories and I strongly suspect they'll be just as incompetent. In fact, I’m convinced that both Starmer and especially Reeves have a few screws loose—Reeves is a complete basket case in my view and not up to the job. It might sound silly but why not have the United Nations Committee on the Rights of Persons with Disabilities carry out the review? I wonder…

    They expect us to believe that in an economy worth £2.27 trillion, the sixth largest in the world, the best way to balance the books is by taking back £1 to £1.5 billion from pensioners? To the government, that amount might seem like nothing but for those who rely on it, it means everything. It certainly won’t save the country, nor will further vilifying disabled people. This just proves again that those in power are more interested in cutting corners at the expense of the vulnerable, rather than making any real difference where it’s needed.

    The PIP system has long been criticised for being excessively intrusive, requiring claimants to disclose deeply personal details about their health and their struggles. These details are often scrutinised by assessors who seem barely fit to boil a kettle, let alone understanding the nuances of someone’s condition and how it affects their life. After that, it’s passed on to so-called health professionals who may lack the relevant expertise, ignore your evidence or skim through it without proper consideration—and at worst, might simply dismiss the claim outright or even lie to deny support. Instead of offering genuine help, the process feels designed to withhold assistance from those who need it most.

    The United Nations has repeatedly condemned the UK’s treatment of disabled people. In 2016, the UN’s Committee on the Rights of Persons with Disabilities (CRPD) launched an inquiry, concluding in 2017 that the UK government had committed “grave and systematic violations” of disabled people’s rights, particularly through austerity measures and welfare reforms like the changes to PIP. The report criticised how these policies disproportionately affected disabled individuals, leaving many in financial hardship and struggling to live independently. Labour is no different to the Tories and will, I suspect, be equally incompetent and I believe there’s more austerity coming our way.

    Despite these warnings from the UN, the situation has worsened in recent years. Disabled people continue to be marginalised, with lengthy waiting times for benefits and a PIP process that often feels designed to fail claimants rather than support them. While Labour leadership might have brought hope to some, many remain sceptical that positive change will come. Critics argue that both major political parties have consistently failed to address the needs of disabled people. With no signs of change, there is little hope that the system will improve for the better. Many fear that instead of easing the struggles faced by claimants, the current PIP process, already seen as intrusive and overly focused on denying support, will either stay the same or become even more restrictive. Disabled individuals are left navigating a system that seems designed to scrutinise and disqualify them, rather than offering the help they need. As new austerity measures inevitably begin, the situation is expected to worsen, further marginalising those most in need.

    The fear is that this ‘new’ government will continue to overlook the needs of the disabled, using reforms to cut costs rather than provide necessary support. The PIP system, which has always been problematic, may become even more challenging for those who rely on it, adding to the distress of already vulnerable individuals.

    As the UN and human rights groups have highlighted, this erosion of support reflects a broader failure of the UK government to uphold its commitments to disabled people under international law. The question remains: can we trust this government to have handled the pandemic differently from the Tories and do they have any desire to improve the lot of the disabled in the UK, or will they continue to prioritise austerity and bureaucracy over genuine care and compassion?
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    Disy · 9 days ago
    A New Government Appears Even Worse Than the Preceding One: How the Disabled and Vulnerable Are Not Suffering Enough

    Another change in government from blue to red, yet this shift in colour appears to be the only difference. Any hopes of improvement were not based on promises of reform but more on an assumption—perhaps a desperate hope—that being a Labour government, they would show some compassion towards the unfortunate after 14 years of Tory rule. However, this hope is slowly, piece by piece, being whittled away.

    Rather than offering even a slight reprieve, this new government seems intent on intensifying the hardships already faced by the disabled and other vulnerable groups. While the previous leadership was known for its harsh and uncaring policies, the current regime appears even more detached and indifferent, seemingly with plans to accelerating the erosion of support for those in need.

    For years, austerity measures and relentless cuts to essential services have chipped away at the foundations that once provided security for the disabled and disadvantaged. Yet instead of addressing these long-standing issues, the new government seems to have chosen to continue down the same destructive path. Their approach conveys the message that those who are struggling have not suffered enough and should endure even more.

    The disabled, in particular, are being vilified through rhetoric that portrays them as burdens, undeserving of the very support they rely on to live with dignity. Instead of increasing access to crucial assistance, the government is tightening the screws, making it increasingly difficult for people to receive help. Benefits assessments have become harsher and the safety net many rely on is becoming riddled with even bigger holes.

    Public services, already under immense strain, are continuing to deteriorate. Promises of investment in the NHS, past and present, social care and community services all ring hollow, with little evidence that anything meaningful is being done. Waiting lists are growing longer, access to critical services is becoming more difficult and the quality of care is in decline. The disabled and those who depend on these services are being left to fend for themselves in an increasingly hostile system.

    Worse still, this government has deliberately created an atmosphere of confusion and uncertainty. Clear communication is lacking and people are being left to speculate about their future. This creation of a vacuum allows fear and misinformation to flourish, keeping the public anxious and divided. Added to this is the right-wing press, having a field day with their relentless attacks on the disabled. It seems that the more disoriented people are, the less likely they are to organise and challenge what we suspect will be regressive strategies.

    Perhaps the most frustrating aspect of this government is the complete lack of accountability. Time and time again, ministers make bold statements about getting disabled people back to work, despite these individuals having already been through the PIP sausage machine, one of the toughest processes on the planet. These people are undoubtedly sick and disabled, yet the government backtracks when it suits them. While ministers remain insulated from the consequences of their actions, the public, particularly the disabled and vulnerable, are forced to endure the fallout. Broken promises, disregard for the real-life struggles of ordinary people, and the ever-growing divide between those in power and the rest of society have left many feeling abandoned.

    This government, far from being a force for change, is simply a continuation of the failures of the last but with even more apparent ruthlessness. By eroding support systems, vilifying the vulnerable and fostering an environment of fear and confusion, they have ensured that the most vulnerable are left in an even more precarious position.

    For those who once hoped for something better, the disappointment is bitter. Instead of the positive change they rightly expected, they are faced with deeper cuts, more suffering and a government that seems increasingly detached from the realities faced by ordinary people. The disabled, the elderly and the disadvantaged are being pushed further to the margins, forgotten in a country that no longer seems to value compassion or care for its own people.

    This government is failing in its most basic duty: to protect and support those who cannot fend for themselves. Instead, it appears likely to pursue policies that inflict more pain and deepen the divide between the powerful and the powerless. Until this government is made accountable for its actions, the disabled and vulnerable will continue to suffer in a system that has all but abandoned them.

    Meanwhile, we wait for Rachel Reeves to return from the dance floor with trepidation, ready to do the dirty on 30th October.
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    SCD · 9 days ago
    I feel suicidal being constantly bombarded about being forced into work, Pip being taken away. I am so scared. I have bi polar, OCD, CPTSD and have just been diagnosed with Dilated cardiomyopathy, heart failure, bilateral valve disorder and Atrial Fibrillation. I won't live to pension age so the 30 years I paid in, they get to keep. Why do they have to torture me with the couple if years I have left. I am raising 2 teens on my own and my money goes on necessities not holidays and hot tubs. 
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      Tim · 5 days ago
      @SCD Bless you. Please speak to citizens advice and see what help is available such as grants and charitable support.
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      Wendy · 9 days ago
      @SCD I feel same hun and it's scary, they should be fair by starting new claims on new ways as were use to this help,Its fairer to start with those who are new claims from next year ,lm nearly pension age and have fulltime carer lm so frightened and sick with worry about this idiots in conservative's thought of,Disabled should never be targeted  in any way take care take each day as it comes but guess theirs thousands thinking it's only way out atm but stay strong for your children, mine are grown up now, lve no life anyway only get out 4/5times a year,been out 3 times this year only for Stock up on personal things xx
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    tinytim · 11 days ago
    As there is also the Motability Scheme Question will this be Abolished as a pensioner On a very small Occupational pension my winter fuel allowance is no more and if this mad Voucher System would be a disaster for many as Catalogues for disability Equipment are already provided by my local county council adult care service.   
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    Mike · 11 days ago
    I was surprisingly awarded PIP for lifetime. Mine is like many far from straight forward my additional expenses revolve around extra water usage ( I am not on any benefit that entitles me to a water  bill reduction) the need to provide an additional bathroom and cleaning.
    I have absolutely no idea how this will play out but it’s going to be pain for some.

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    Anonymous · 12 days ago
    Pip entitles you to free bus pass, blue badge and disabled person railcard, which I need due my learning disabilities and the money to get to appointments because I don't drive. It also pays my rent and food. 
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      Emma · 9 days ago
      @Anonymous Not every pip award entitles you to a free bus pass.
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      Mike · 11 days ago
      @Anonymous My pip certainly didn’t qualify me for a bus pass or a blue badge. Of course some qualified by virtue of mobility issues 
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    Brian Marriott · 13 days ago
    Let’s all hope they scrap it we need pip money as if we go voucher I will not be able to get to hospital appointments at all  pip pays for my  taxi to hospital and home asi. Can not follow a simple rut due to learning disability 
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    Bee · 13 days ago
    Part of my disability is caused by my eating disorder. Are these vouchers going to cover food costs? If not I will not be able to buy food, meaning my eating disorder and therefore my disability will worsen. I can't drive, will the vouchers cover public transport? If not, I will be unable to attend therapy and other healthcare appointments. 
    It should be my right to make my OWN decisions on what I need to spend my disability payments on. I shouldn't be given options on what to spend it on, and I shouldn't have to show anyone reciepts like a child proving they didn't spend their mum's change on a toy. Disabilities are not one off, so they payments shouldn't be either. 

    Sick of our government treating us like children. This is so discriminatory. If I COULD work, I absolutely would. I'd rather be working than stuck in my house feeling like crap 24/7. 
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    Anon · 20 days ago
    Absolutely repulsive proposals. The tax breaks they give big business and the deals MPs have with private companies that are to do with private masonic handshakes are vile.
    This is a rich country and the disabled are not draining anything from anywhere. 
    Maybe start with the elite business bankers etc before you come after the vulnerable.
    We are NOT TO BLAME and there's more than enough money in the pot of this rich country to treat the vulnerable with dignity!
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    Pickle2507 · 20 days ago
    Would I be correct in saying that treating disabled people differently than able bodied people would be illegal? One of the government’s own laws was made so that disabled people would not be discriminated against. Yet that’s EXACTLY what the government would be doing by stopping cash payments only for the disabled and not other benefit claimants. Test case would have to be brought to the courts. I think it could cost millions more. 
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      Daisy · 11 days ago
      @Cheryl So where we all meeting ?,,,I so feed up of our Government stepping on the all ready down and outs.

      I wish i did have the luxuryto say its hard JUMPING THOUGH THESE BENEFITS HOPS "I think i will go back to work"....

      But ive FND ,fibromyalgia spinal degeneration..and siezures brought on by stress AND this forced move to UC and now a chase they will stop cash payments to Pip...This government will have more blood on its hands. It already killed god knows now many in covid and now this..

      I just hope that we the Disabled do raise our army. I Hope I will able to get out of bed .but the..chases are it won't be a good day and I will miss the war due to disability . ive forgotten what it is to not be in physical or mental pain.
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      Cheryl · 14 days ago
      @Pickle2507 We need to all get out in our wheelchairs and make a noise
      Not let them take our cash whst if we need money in hospital stays
      And getting to appointments in taxis how we gonna pay...
      It's gonna be so degrading and ppl will be topping themselves including me
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    Ben T · 21 days ago
    I hate to say it but I think those with more severe issues will be less affected than those without, and those with more paperwork supporting their claims will find it easier. I have been trapped in a cycle for 20 years of being told I am unfit for work one minute, then fit for work the next. Every job I've had hasn't worked out, and not from the lack of trying either. 

    Having just been diagnosed with Complex PTSD, in addition to personality disorder, autism, adhd and other conditions, I know I'm not well enough to work, but will that stop them trying to force me into work? I doubt it based on experience. 

    The only difference is I have mental health professionals behind me now who have no doubt that I am unable to work, and doing so would carry more of a risk to my own mental health and wellbeing and potentially to that of others, as I have uncontrollable outbursts due to my PTSD. 


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      Brian Marriott · 20 days ago
      @Ben T Everyone on pip will have money only voucher will be useless  I can’t work I can’t go out on my own I can’t follow rites 
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    Katy · 22 days ago
    Heartbreaking, and frankly, disgusting! Words escape me, because, let's be honest, we are not listened to!!!!!
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    Andy · 23 days ago
    Vouchers will leave me and my wife homeless.. we don't qualify for UC.. we don't work due to disabilities.. we live off PIP & Carers allowance.. and the PIP helps pay the rent.. without that we are homeless.. 
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      Ben Tanner · 21 days ago
      @A Maybe so, but some of us are more ill than others too. I have complex PTSD, autism, personality disorder, MADD, ADHD, severe tinnitus. I have tons of paperwork, psychiatrists that say me working would cause more harm to myself and potentially others due to my uncontrollable outbursts, so let them try. 
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      A · 23 days ago
      @Andy You should better worry about not vouchers but losing it in any form, as Liz Kendall is coming up with what it calls "Duty to Engage", which will force and require ALL disabled people and those on long term health conditions on benefits to have the duty to engage with jobcentres for job search on a regular basis, just like those who are looking for employment, and failure to comply with, they would lose their benefits. The WCA would also take place at jobcentres more frequently. She also said that benefit cuts were inevitable.

      So, her focus is far from paying PIP in vouchers, as vouchers too cost money. She's planning to force all people into employment whether sick, disabled, or not, and to justify her wicked plan, she keeps parroting that millions of people who want to work were written off sick without their consent by the Tories, which is very dishonest to claim such a falsehood.

      After all, she and Harriet Harman were the only Labour who voted for the austerity of Cameron and Osborn.

      This is not to scare anyone, as we're all in the same boat.
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    Anon · 1 months ago
    Vouchers will just confine me to the house permanently. I rely on taxis to get around and will no longer afford them.
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    SCD · 1 months ago
    This is the personal statement I gave at my PIP Tribunal. I hope others can relate?
    The experience of applying for PIP has been an overwhelming and learning experience.
    When I made my initial application, to be honest I admit that I didn't fully understand that it was based on how your diagnosis affects your daily living rather than just your diagnosis.
    More than a year later, preparing for this PIP Tribunal, I am able to clearly define the impact of my mental and physical health on my daily life.
    In simple terms, I have no life.
    I stopped living 9 years ago after suffering a psychotic break and planned suicide.
    Since my diagnosis I have been admitted 3 times to psychiatric facilities, I am medicated, taking upto 11 tablets a day, and I see a psychiatrist every 2 to 3 months for 30 minutes via Zoom.
    My mental health has not improved, instead there have been periods of serious deterioration. Through my self harm, my lack of self care, in addition to my mental illness my physical health has become a debilitating factor.
    I am stuck in a negative ongoing cycle. I am unable to help myself move forward or make any changes.
    PIP is defined as a payment for people who have extra care needs or mobility needs as a result of a disability.
    I need extra care and mobility support at this point in my life. I need to be able to pay for additional care that Wokingham council is unable to offer.
    With the support of a carer, I will be able to properly engage with services forqw my mental and physical health.
    Improvement in my mental and physical wellbeing will enable me with continued support to work on solutions to improve the quality of life for myself and my children.
    My hope is that receiving PIP now, and having the chance to make real changes will take away the responsibility that my children currently carry, and allow me to be the mother they want and need.
    I want to be a PIP success story, I want to start living again, I want to have my personal Independence.
    In 5 years when my PIP is assessed, I want to tell you that I have used my payments to improve all aspects of my life and that I am in a position to go forward alone.
    I want more for myself and my children than barely surviving. I need help now, I have lost 9 years. I need my remaining years to count
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    SCD · 1 months ago
    I don't understand, PIP is Personal INDEPENDENCE payment, but a voucher system takes away our Independence. It seems that I cannot be trusted to spend my allowance... I don't feel that I have to justify to anyone how I spend my allowance (I assume people think I spend it in booze, fags and Shein?). The voucher system just adds to the shame I am made to feel. You can't see my bi polar (diagnosed by a psychiatrist, not tik tok, and my heart failure with a 19% survival rate at 5 years) I lied about my mobility car to neighbours, and said my parents brought it, just to avoid the nasty comments. I get UC and PIp, I paid into the system for 30+ years and won't make it to my old age pension (That will save the government over £250,000 if I had lived to 80).
    I wish that people did their homework before labelling us as work shy scroungers. 
    My favourite comment so far has been "Should people on benefits be allowed 'nice' things?" 
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      MAIREAD · 25 days ago
      @SCD Totally agree with everything you say
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      mrfibro · 1 months ago
      @SCD Vouchers etc, versus cash payments.  Cash wins hands down for million of reasons, it's a no brainer.  But the government don't care if having vouchers takes away most, or all of our independence.

      If vouchers schemes etc wins, it will only cause, and put more unwanted pressure on the NHS, and also community / social care etc.  Bringing the entire shebang to a collapse.

      This will cost countless billions of pounds that labour will have to find.  Imagine all the millions of friends & family carers not caring / supporting claimants.  Basically the truth is the government has got claimants on the cheap, and they know it.

      And they have the gaul to won't to condemn people to have more isolation, no independence and to become more ill, or die!

      My thoughts on labour are they don't know their left elbow from their right.  They have got their priorities completely wrong.



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    Leeds oldie · 1 months ago
    Not feaseable, will not work ,how are we the disabled who have a mobility vehicle, going to get around ,on the local bus ? trains?taxes? Why are the dianled being attacked in this way ,it was brought in by a labour government for the very reason people NEEDED IT, we know the tories hate the disabled, but not to come out and say NO! How hard is that .
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      Ben T · 21 days ago
      @Andy I've not worked for the same amount of time, just been diagnosed with Complex PTSD too, in addition to autism, adhd, personality disorder etc. It could also leave me in a tent too. I'm just under 40 myself, so even worse at my age as they'll think I can still work for 20 + years yet. Never been able to hold down a job, always had the attitude of trying to work, never wanted to rely on benefits, but hasn't stopped them trying to force me into work over the years though. 
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      Andy · 23 days ago
      @Leeds oldie We would have to live in a tent.. We can't claim UC We are not eligable... Can't get new ESA either as not worked for 5 years due to disabilities.. and can't claim private pension until I am 55.. (Now I am 47).. We would have to beg and scrounge.. live on handouts and whatever we could forrage for
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    Brian Marriott · 1 months ago
    Pip is only for money only not voucher voucher will never work so keep it as money 
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    H C · 1 months ago
    Only people with no experience of severe disability would suggest a voucher scheme instead of cash payments for PIP. For so many people it just wouldn't work, due to the nature of their disability. It's just one more slice of hell for people with severe disabilities to be force fed by the government. It's about time the government stopped treating us like easy targets, got off our backs, gave us the support we needed and allowed us to get on with our lives in peace, free from the continual burden of stress consecutive governments have put us under. 
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      Daisy · 11 days ago
      @H C Your right we are living in Hell and it keeps getting deeper...some days I wish there was a big red button to press, so I could end it all... but im no quieter...disabled or not I make it work.

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    Dave W · 1 months ago
    A voucher scheme may amount to discrimination for the purposes of the Equality Act 2010.  However, the government may over come this with primary legislation.  A voucher scheme would not be inline with obligations under the Human Rights Convention and there is nothing the government can do to overcome that.  *Probation form toucher, humiliating and degrading treatment," a voucher scheme is humiliating and degrading, for vulnerable people.
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      Daisy · 11 days ago
      @Johnny That's disgraceful...I hope you got mobility in the end...
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      Johnny · 12 days ago
      @mrfibro I agree pip was the most embarrassing thing i have every been through i had a stroke and they said cant get the mobility part as i have a zimmer frame  but its not suitable for stairs to get to bedroom told me to crawl up on stay downstairs
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      stefan · 22 days ago
      @Dave W 100% agree voucher scheme just going to discriminate.

      It's also going to force autistic people myself more way from social society when i am try to become more social. 

      Paying with vouchers would be embarrassing as you can guarantee they wouldn't work online. 

      I do everything online because of my anxiety everything else. 
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      mrfibro · 1 months ago
      @Dave W I agree, but you could say the same about WCA's & PIP assessments etc.  They too are extremely humiliating and degrading.  But the goverment/s still do it, and strill keep getting away with it.  The question begs why?   why = coz no one is there to stick up for claimants, it's that simple.
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