Labour is prepared to risk a backbench revolt by allowing a vote on cuts to Personal Independence Payment (PIP), in order to be sure it can breach claimants’ human rights without worrying about legal repercussions, Benefits and Work believes. 

When the Pathways to Work Green paper was published, it contained the surprising information that the changes to PIP scores and the cuts to universal credit (UC) payments would be introduced by primary legislation – an Act of Parliament.

Surprising, because these changes would normally be done using Statutory Instruments (SIs).  This is delegated legislation that does not require a vote in Parliament, just a signature from the secretary of state.

A vote carries real risks.

Given that the Tories will undoubtedly be in favour of the cuts, the risk is not that Labour might lose the vote.

But if a sizeable number of backbenchers revolt, real damage may be done to the Labour leadership and to party cohesion. A large enough uprising might even threaten the careers of Reeves or Kendall – perhaps even be the beginning of the end for Starmer himself .

In the face of overwhelming discontent, it seems likely Labour would abandon the whole plan rather than risk a showdown.

SIs, on the other hand, are extremely difficult to get a ballot on in Parliament.  There is a process whereby MPs can “pray against” an SI and potentially vote on it.  But it is a complex and seldom successful process.  The last time an SI was overturned in this way in the Commons was almost half a century ago.

So, why give MPs and Lords a vote on a highly controversial issue when it isn’t at all necessary?

The argument that it is being done in the interests of democracy is not one that can be taken seriously.  Not when Labour have refused to consult with the public, and particularly disabled claimants, over these changes which will have such a dramatic effect on their lives.

But there is a more obvious reason.

SIs can be challenged in court, usually by judicial review, and have some of their provisions removed or the entire instrument quashed.  The Human Rights Act is often the basis of such challenges.

In truth, successful challenges are very rare.

One study found that between 2014 and 2020 there were just 14 successful challenges of delegated legislation using the Human Rights Act, in spite of thousands of SIs being enacted every year.

It’s worth noting, though, that four of those cases were in connection with regulations made under the Welfare Reform Act 2012.

The situation is very different where an Act of Parliament, rather than an SI, is involved.

In the UK, parliament is sovereign. Because an act has gone through the whole extensive democratic process of scrutiny and debate by both the Commons and the Lords, courts cannot overturn the provisions of an Act of Parliament.

The most they can do is inform the government that particular provisions of an act are in breach of, for example, the Human Rights Act or the Equality Act.

But the government does not have to do anything about the court’s findings.  It can simply shrug its shoulders and carry on regardless.

Benefits and Work suspects that the DWP have very strong grounds to fear that both the changes to the PIP points system and the cuts to the LCWRA element of UC are in breach of the Human Rights Act and/or the Equality Act.

And that, we believe, is why they are to be made law via a single Act of Parliament that the courts can’t touch.

Once again, we remind readers that In the Green paper, the DWP claim that “We are committed to putting the views and voices of disabled people and people with health conditions at the heart of everything we do.”

Disabled people’s human rights, on the other hand, can be safely ignored.

Visit our What you can do page for at least eight actions you can take right now to challenge the Green Paper.  

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    · 7 days ago
    My understanding is that the PIP changes would need to be done via an affirmative SI, which is rarer than the usual procedure and would need a full vote in both Commons and Lords to proceed. Given there would need to be a vote regardless, it’s less surprising they’d go the primary legislation option 
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      · 6 days ago
      @Katie Yes Katie, ordinarily it would have needed to have been done via affirmative SI, as the High Court ruled on this due to the attempt by the Tories to have scrapped LWCA. A very brave lady took this on and won. Setting precedent. SI and delegated legislation much quicker too.

      This is WHY Starmer and co., knew (Starmer being a former Human Rights Lawyer and head of prosecutions) that the only way that he could do this was to go down the route that they have taken to make it Law because Sovereign Law is supreme and as such the High Court is UNABLE to overrule. 

      However, I wonder if you may be onto something here. While it is still at the green
      paper stage!

      Under the Salisbury convention if the white paper proceeds to  The House of Lords is unable to challenge bills that were included in an election Party Bill.

      So, for example, welfare reform was a promise that Labour elected on a promise to deliver. The Lords therefore when the white paper to them the Lords cannot legislate against this. As NO party holds a majority seat in the House of Lords.

      Under the 1911-1949 Parliament Act Lords can delay legislation by up to one year. However, if a Bill were to remain in The Lords for up to a year it will still pass without approval.


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    · 7 days ago
    I originally got this from The Big Issue


    https://www.bigissue.com/opinion/benefits-cuts-disabled-people-poverty-z2k/


    Labour's rushed cuts to benefits will see severely disabled people plunged into deep poverty
    Anela Anwar, chief executive at anti-poverty charity Z2K, writes about her concerns for disabled people ahead of Labour's benefits cuts
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      · 6 days ago
      @Harry We all agree with Anela's opinion but I doubt it will stop the Government. Just like warnings from charities didn't stop them cutting the fuel allowance for pensioners.
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    · 7 days ago
    This is a good email template which I got from Z2K 
    Just Copy and Paste or edit accordingly, hope it helps 




    As a resident of ( your constituency) I am asking you to speak out against the devastating cuts to support for disabled people that the government has announced. 

    Estimates suggest that planned restrictions to the eligibility criteria for Personal Independence Payment (PIP) could see at least 800,000 disabled people lose out on support of at least £4,200 per year. 

    Evidence from Z2K’s advice services suggests that the plans are poorly targeted and will see people who are severely disabled being denied vital support. Those who will lose out as a result of the plans include double amputees, people with psychosis and stroke survivors. People who are deemed to have the most severe conditions, those receiving the ‘enhanced’ rate, will be among those affected by the planned measures.  

    What’s more, the cuts to PIP are accompanied by a nearly 50% cut to support for seriously ill and disabled people who can’t work because of their health. At a time when 77% of those receiving universal credit and disability benefits are already struggling to cover the essentials, this will lead to increasing numbers of disabled people having to choose between eating and heating.

    It’s clear that our health and disability benefits system needs reform, but these rushed, poorly thought-out cuts are not the answer. We can’t return to the same old failed approach of prioritising short-term savings over meaningful reform – an approach which has been shown to fail to generate any savings for government in the long run.  

    Will you speak out against these dangerous plans, by tabling a question to the department or writing privately to ministers asking them to reconsider? You can reach out to Z2K for further information and support, at policycampaigns@z2k.org.  

    I urge you to defend vital benefits and make sure our social security system is something we can all be proud of.  

    I look forward to hearing from you.
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    · 7 days ago
    Can I ask if it’s also true that the government is also looking  to make disabled people with certain disability’s no longer to be eligible to be on pip 
    As I read on line that 

    That the government as well as tightening the criteria is also looking to exclude several conditions previously deemed eligible

    While the DWP has not yet published the full list, reports indicate that the 87 conditions being reconsidered primarily fall under musculoskeletal disorders. These may include:

    Osteoarthritis
    Rheumatoid arthritis
    Chronic pain syndrome
    Fibromyalgia
    Inflammatory arthritis
    Spinal disorders (e.g., degenerative disc disease, scoliosis)
    Hip and knee replacements
    Neuropathic pain conditions
    Tendonitis and bursitis

    Is this true is the government also looking to exclude disability’s such as the above from being on pip 

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      · 4 days ago
      @Mr Fibro I do NOT know what we are accepted to take it as anything or nothing anymore However, PIP and formerly DLA was NEVER to have been a working benefit this is why I do NOT understand how any of this is being allowed by the current Government on the green paper proposals. It certainly was NEVER have intended to have been a means tested benefit.

      That is WHY it does NOT matter how wealthy you are or are NOT a person if DISABLED for life was entitled to it. Whether you worked or NOT.

      However, if UNABLE to work because of it PIP has NOW dictated how much ESA, UC that you receive. Therefore, making it means tested
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      · 4 days ago
      @Jonny I agree Jonny there is a lot of this going on at present. In particular over musculoskeletal conditions.

      Whether there is an element of truth behind it or NOT who knows the area where I live there certainly has been a shift in the attitude of the NHS regarding musculoskeletal conditions to include if you are over 50 even if you have always lived with bone disease and disabling conditions that your GP is unable to refer you straight to scan even when FULLY aware, when you are in a totally incapacitated state. As do your consultants. That an MSK clinician has been given the power to deny or allow the scans that you desperately need. My GP practice referred to it as a business decision! Business decisions overriding clinical decisions. 

      At present circulation of opinions by a NON reputable source is adding to the fear and distress that the Government has caused.

      Therefore. perhaps this has led to some generating reports. In their opinion either way it is just adding to the distress we are ALL facing!

      Take Care

      DJ 
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      · 6 days ago
      @j PIP isn't primarily about the condition.
      I'd imagine if the claiment meets the points requirements with evidence then there will be no barrier to the actual illness.
      Where did you obtain this list  ?
      If it hasn't been sanctioned from a reputable source I'd disregard it
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      · 6 days ago
      @Michael So are we to take it, that PIP has become or will become a working benefit, just like ESA.
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      · 6 days ago
      @j Could I possibly ask where you saw this? Thankyou. I have several of these disorders.
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    · 7 days ago
    I emailed my Labour MP with my concerns about PIP changes and he replied. He basically said that he had raised his concerns over the past few weeks to the government. He was going to read the impact assessments very carefully when they’re published this week and get back to me with a more substantive reply. 
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      · 6 days ago
      @Shopdoll @Shopdoll, there's maybe hope then.
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      · 6 days ago
      @Shopdoll I wrote to my mp and she wholeheartedly backs the change in pip rules !
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      · 6 days ago
      @rtbcpart2 He’s our first Labour MP. It’s always been a Tory sheep MP. He also has a severely disabled child and does a lot of work with disabled groups in the area. He must be squirming right now. Will be gobsmacked if he gets back to me. 
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      · 7 days ago
      @Shopdoll Bet you can't wait.
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    · 7 days ago
    I agree that welfare reforms are needed but there has to be a line in the sand, I was reading on another forum that assessors aren't even medically trained, that is ludicrous, again another thing I've noticed is that people are saying that Britain is the only country in Western Europe to treat disabled people like an economical burden. That is a stain on this country and I'm sorry to say that.

    If you read or hear anyone try to justify cutting disability benefits as some "labor of love" realise that it's gaslighting and it's dangerous, people are going to be on skidrow, people will be destitute, people will resort to desperate measures and forcing people into such a rut isn't love, it's pure hatred.


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      · 7 days ago
      @Dave Dee Nit medically trained doesn't surprise me one bit, a lot of the time physiotherapy is about as far as it gets.
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      · 7 days ago
      @Dave Dee I firmly believe every measure possible should be devised to encourage and rehabilitate people with impairments into the workplace and wider society wherever possible and to support them as necessary. But I also think equal commitment should be a societal shared objective not to make worse the difficulties of disability and the disadvantage that it confers in opportunities both vocational and otherwise.  Money should absolutely not be cut.  
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    · 7 days ago
    If emailing your MP via their parlimentary email address you must confirm your address otherwise your MP cannot respond
    For example in the email put : I confirm I reside at (your full address).

    I got this from my MP (please see below)
    Due to strict Parliamentary protocol, please could you confirm your full address so that I am able to respond to your email in full
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      · 6 days ago
      @Harry Thank you for this info, i've resent the email I sent last week, this time with my address. Not holding my breath for a response but it's still worth us flooding our MPs' inboxes to show the strength of opinion on this. 
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    · 7 days ago
    This "those with most severe conditions will not face reassessments" is a swindle - what do they mean by most severe confditions? it could mean those who don't have the necessary 4 points for one activity in daily living, despite experiencing conditions serious enough to accrue sufficient points for an award, might at some point have to instigate their own review or renewal to fight for a 4 points. Or does it mean those already on a light touch award will keep it, regardless of the configuration of points?

    Also, these measures are supposed to save a pathetic £5bn by 2030. They do know there will have to be an election by then, right?
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      · 5 days ago
      @robbie As far as I know no numbers have been released for size of impact, Labour are trying to avoid it.

      My expectation for 10 year light touch, is that some of these will revert to 10 years standard review, because if the DWP know that some light touch awards have no 4 point descriptors, they will want to do a full review to get the claim closed.
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      · 7 days ago
      @robbie I'm new to all of this but I suspect the VAST majority of people will be effected by this 4point rule! I suspect that's why they choose the 4 point question snd have delayed publishing the impact assessment.  Clearly waiting for a big news day to bury it the outcomes. 
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    · 7 days ago
    For those of us claiming LCWRA/Support Group only, is it worth trying to claim pip now if the only way you are going to be eligible in the future is through the new health element?  Although I understand the majority of individuals are now unlikely to score 4 points in one section with the revised pip form.  Looking to the future, the alternative is being in receipt of no health benefits at all then and just the basic universal credit allowance.
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      · 5 days ago
      @sara Thanks Sara.
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      · 6 days ago
      @Anon Thanks for your help, I do appreciate it.

      By the way, as you know it, the WCA is to be scrapped in 2028, and the new 4 point based criteria in PIP will come into effect in Nov. 2026. If someone who's currently on LCWRA, which is my case, is called for a reassessment, say sometime in 2027, will they be reassessed on the new PIP or the WCA which will be still in place?

      What do you think?
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      · 6 days ago
      @Scorpion LCWRA should not be affected, as PIP is a different benefit with different criteria.

      Assessments are really stressful, especially if you're doing everything without support.

      Ask for a paper based assessment as a reasonable adjustment if you're unable to do a phone or face-to-face one because of your health or disability.

      If they deliberately mark you down where you should be getting 4 points or more (which they often do), then do a mandatory reconsideration.

      Keep challenging and go all the way to appeal if you have to (and are able to, with support of course). Citizens Advice can help with every stage and any issues you run into with the DWP.

      It's really important you follow the Benefits and Work guide to fill the form, as Citizens Advice aren't that great with this if the adviser isn't experienced.
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      · 6 days ago
      @Anon From Google, it seems it's 50 pages long!

      Wow.
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      · 6 days ago
      @Anon I'm having a look at the guide of B&W per your advice.

      Does the whole claim form for PIP sent out by the DWP only contain those tick boxes, or does it also have, like the WCA form, sections where you'll have to explain, elaborate, and even demonstrate verbally situations and problems?

      Cheers.
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    · 7 days ago
    It's the 4 points in one category or you will lose out bit that gets me. Disabilities affect people in different ways. The way the system is now already, fails to reflect that. However, at the moment you've got many, many claimants with life long conditions that affect them in many different ways, both mental and physical, who maybe get 2 points here and there, being honest on their form and scoring the points needed across the 12 questions to make a successful claim with the necessary documents to back that up from their health clinic, will now, it seems with this new mandatory 4 points on one question proposal, lose their benefit entirely. People are now terrified. All I see online and from talking to people are severe anxiety and backlash from this particular proposal. Surely they'll have to ditch it. They cannot pass this as legislation. Peoples lives will be ruined. Also, I think they just make their financial figures up as they go along in parliament. They WASTE billions every year on various rackets and then have the cheek to cripple both pensioners and now disabled people with bogus figures and ignorance. It's exhausting. I voted for labour specifically to protect the disability benefits. I feel like they've stuck a knife in each and every one of us. 
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      · 6 days ago
      @Steve Could have been a case of better the devil you know.
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      · 7 days ago
      @bert Exactly, it’s what they didn’t say that made me suspicious!
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      · 7 days ago
      @bert They've lied and misled their way into government, Starmer is a disgrace 
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      · 7 days ago
      @Mickey Labour never mentioned benefits in their election campaign that was a big sign.
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    · 7 days ago
    How can you say they have refused to consult with the public? The consultation paper and questionnaire is available right now for the public to provide consultation on. 

    Please stop spreading misinformation.
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      · 5 days ago
      @Anon
      Because they have refused, the green paper states some parts will not have consultation.

      The consultation they have released has succeeded in fooling some people thinking everything is getting consulted on.

      As an example there is no consultation on whether to introduce the 4 point rule, instead the 4 point questions are whether or not they should do anything to help the victims of the rule change. 
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      · 7 days ago
      @Anon The consultation they've published is just lip service for formality. They're not consulting on any of the following:

      Scrapping the WCA
      Creating a single assessment for PIP and the UC health element
      Freezing the health element of UC until 2029/30
      Only awarding PIP daily living if you get at least one descriptor scoring 4 or more points
      Restarting WCA reassessments until the WCA is scrapped

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      · 7 days ago
      @Anon Stopping being so facile and misinformed yourself. Take a look at this. This explains the consultation paper is highly flawed and even bogus. It is a disingenuous consultation, you have fallen for the sham. 

      https://www.benefitsandwork.co.uk/news/dwp-launches-entirely-bogus-green-paper-consultation
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      · 7 days ago
      @Anon @Anon, the point about the consultation' is it's bogus because it doesn't fully consult on the damaging cuts to be made. Have a look at the B&W article. We need to express our views on the whole package, not fall for the sleight of hand in the limited questions on the survey. 
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    · 7 days ago
    Vile proposals 
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    · 7 days ago
    Quick question: has anyone received a positive response from their MP regarding proposed cuts? My MP has not responded, so far, and as he is new I'm far from hopeful.
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      · 6 days ago
      @Anniesmum Good to hear about the good 'uns. 
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      · 6 days ago
      @Matt I haven't had anything but an automated 'thanks for your email, we'll get back to you when we can' kinda thing but my local MP (Richard Burgon) was speaking about cuts when the rumours started, and has raised issues afterwards. He is questioning why we can't put a wealth tax in place instead. I know he lost the whip over the two child benefit cap because he rebelled over it.

      So, whilst it isn't a positive response, I feel certain he is against these cuts. Whether that transforms into anything meaningful remains to be seen.
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      · 7 days ago
      @Matt My MP hasn’t replied but I did email a labour MP I heard on radio 4. She sent a really good email back and she is not going to vote for the new measures. She is doing a lot to speak out against the new proposals.
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    · 7 days ago
    So will pip still be how your conditions affect you and not based on diagnosis? Cos reading some newspapers they list some conditions that won’t be accepted, which is adding to all the stress.
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    · 7 days ago
    Hello, does anyone know when we’ll know if these proposed changes to benefits will go ahead?  As it stands right now they’re just proposals but when will they actually tell us what’s happening?
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    · 7 days ago
    If emailing your MP via their parlimentary email address you must confirm your address otherwise your MP cannot respond
    For example in the email put : I confirm I reside at (your full address).

    I got this from my MP (please see below)
    Due to strict Parliamentary protocol, please could you confirm your full address so that I am able to respond to your email in full
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    · 7 days ago
    Hi 
    If emailing your MP via their parlimentary email address you must confirm your address otherwise your MP cannot respond 
    For example in the email put : I confirm I reside at (your full address).

    I got this from my MP  (please see below)
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    · 7 days ago
    Upsetting when this website cuts off bits of your post the one I just sent started with -

    They say the system is broken—but they don’t speak about the people it has broken......

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      · 7 days ago
      @CaroA It may likely be a technical issue, as this has happened to some of my posts too. I reposted again including the cut off bit, which is what was posted on here by moderation.
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    · 7 days ago

    My brother was one of them. He lived with serious health conditions—epilepsy, Ménière’s disease, HIV, hepatitis B—and deep trauma from our childhood. He died of a heart attack while dreading yet another DWP reassessment. I believe the constant pressure to prove his illness, over and over, contributed to that final strain.

    Now politicians talk about a “perverse need to justify illness”—as if it's our fault but it wasn’t the sick who made it this way. The system forces us to reduce ourselves to our worst days, just to be believed.

    My brother made a beautiful home, found love, and lived with dignity despite the system. Sadly though he was tormented still from many lifelong demons....including the DWP. 

    He deserved rest, not scrutiny.He deserved to live!

    And he is not the only one.




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      · 7 days ago
      @CaroA Well said.   The psychological stress of being an increasingly demonized group in  society and living with the fear of being hit financially with cuts especially from a Labour government is very isolating and frightening
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    · 7 days ago
    These proposals will end up in the courts and this labour government will be defeated big style just wait and see.
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      · 7 days ago
      @freddy Agree! When the Tories tried to do their vouchers it got ruled on in the courts " unlawful "
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      · 7 days ago
      @freddy Oh yes please if I lose LCWRA I will then lose UC and therefore most likely my flat, possessions and also the mobility scooter that I use

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      · 7 days ago
      @freddy Oh god yes please id love to see him lose on a human rights violation given his prior experience 

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