Labour is to revive the hated Tory plan to force banks to carry out surveillance on claimants’ accounts and give the DWP police type power to search premises and seize possessions.

The Tory provisions were contained in the Data Protection and Digital Information Bill, but this failed to be passed into law before the general election and was therefore scrapped.

Now, however, Labour have announced that they are to include what appear to be very similar provisions in a new Fraud, Error and Debt Bill.

According to the DWP, the new law will give the DWP powers to:

  • Better investigate suspected fraud and new powers of search and seizure so DWP can take greater control investigations into criminal gangs defrauding the taxpayer.
  • Allow DWP to recover debts from individuals who can pay money back but have avoided doing so, bringing greater fairness to debt recoveries.
  • Require banks and financial institutions to share data that may show indications of potential benefit overpayments

The Tory bank surveillance provisions would have forced banks to monitor the accounts of all means-tested benefits claimants and report every time an account went over the capital limit or was used abroad for more than four weeks.

In late 2023, it was estimated that almost 9 million claimants would be caught in the Tory surveillance net, including:

  • 8 million universal credit claimants
  • 6 million employment and support allowance claimants
  • 4 million pension credit claimants

That number is likely to have increased by now, especially with the push to get more people to sign-up for pension credit.

Labour’s new bill will also give the DWP the power to search premises and seize evidence, such as documents, laptops and phones.

The Tory Bill contained similar powers.

It would have allowed designated DWP staff to arrest claimants, search premises and seize any evidence they found without needing to use the police. The DWP said this would put them on a par with HMRC and the Gangmasters and Labour Abuse Authority (GLAA).

In an attempt to reassure claimants, the DWP today claimed that:

“The Bill will also include safeguarding measures to protect vulnerable customers. Staff will be trained to the highest standards on the appropriate use of any new powers, and we will introduce new oversight and reporting mechanisms, to monitor these new powers. DWP will not have access to people’s bank accounts and will not share their personal information with third parties.”

Labour claim that these powers will only be used against criminal gangs.  But, until we see the text of the bill, we will have no way of knowing whether the law will actually prevent the DWP using their new powers against individual claimants if they so choose.

The outline of the new bill was published today by the DWP to coincide with Kier Starmer’s first speech as prime minister to a Labour party conference.

In his speech, Starmer made only a brief reference to the new bill, saying, “If we want to maintain support for the welfare state, then we will legislate to stop benefit fraud and do everything we can to tackle worklessness.”

Back in April of this year the then prime minister, Rishi Sunak, outlined his plan to give the DWP police powers.  He did this whilst setting out his five point plan for welfare reform in a speech at the right-wing think tank, the Centre for Social justice, founded by Iain Duncan-Smith.

Just five months later, Keir Starmer has announced similar measures, this time in a speech to the Labour party conference.

The other four Sunak points were:

  • The WCA to be made harder to pass
  • GPs no longer to issue fit notes
  • Legacy benefits claimants to move to UC sooner and work requirements to be increased
  • PIP no longer always a cash benefit and fewer people to be eligible

We will now have to wait for Labour’s welfare reform white paper to see whether any of the four remaining points will also be adopted as Labour policy.

An outline of the new Fraud, Error and Debt Bill can be found here.

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    Claire Jones · 11 hours ago
    With any luck, backlash within the party and Labour MP's will water this bill down. A massive majority means more division for the party. Additionally, if you live in Scotland or Wales, with Labour promising further devolution over their tenure, you could be blanketed from this bill's decision hopefully. I think all of us agree that fraud gangs do need to be cracked down on as they give the rest of us who are genuinely sick and disabled a bad name, but what's concerning for every one of us is how many innocent people will be taken down with them? The budget next month will be the meat and bones of mostly good things, but the welfare state will be the real worry. It will tell us all where Labour stands in the next 5 years of governing. Will they target the countless amount of fraud and tax dodging by the richest? All signs so far show they will, but the recent Winter Fuel Allowance removal for pensioners shows otherwise. They are truly a confusing party to comprehend right now. At least with the Tories we knew what we were getting from them.
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    A · 12 hours ago
    Keir Starmer saying that "there should be more support to help people back to work" is all a lie. Keir Starmer's plan is all about cutting the welfare budget and cutting benefits to as many claimants as possible. This is exactly what David Cameron used to claim - helping unemployed people get good jobs, while forcing people to do unpaid jobs and murmuring that claimants needed to work for and earn their benefits, until he finally confessed that it was all about cutting the welfare budget and cutting benefits to as many claimants as possible.

    Keir Starmer is nothing but the other face of the same evil and cruel coin.
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    Hazel Dean · 1 days ago
    I am disabled.  I don't want to be.  I go through pain and exhaustion every day.  I did not ask to be like this.  Why should I be treated as a pariah and a waste of money. I have been working for 50 years and have destroyed the remaining good health I had in the last 2 years trying to support myself and my disabled son. So now Labour want to treat us as did the Tories. I really would like one of them to meet me face-to-face and tell me what I did to warrant this blame and ill treatment. 
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    Michael Reid · 1 days ago
    IMO if they take away cash payments especially from people who have hidden disabilities this would increase the crime rate and cause mayhem.If u are disabled through no fault of your own and cannot work why should you be treated as a 3rd class citizen, surely everyone deserves the right to live an enjoyable life.
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    Matt · 1 days ago
    with Labour's focus on getting sick and disabled people back into work....I thought I would share some experience to demonstrate how difficult this is going to be with employers.

    I work in the insurance industry and we have set up a number of networks under DE & I.  As part of the disability awareness forum, yesterday in our office we had an exhibition of simulation specs which tries to replicate the practical difficulties of living with severe sight loss depending on different ophthalmic conditions.  Regrettably very few staff were interested in taking part (we arranged this for lunchtime).  Most members of the public are very indifferent to visual or hearing impairment, UNLESS it affects them.

    The work I undertake is very visual in nature with reading vast quantities of notes.  The training tends to be printed forms to show you how to complete a task with computer screenshots (in tiny print). Staff who should be training are very reluctant to actually sit with you (I have a large monitor so that I can actually do my job).  Basically either you work to the requirements of the employer, or you are faced with the unpleasant bureaucratic minefield of the benefits system.

    It would really help if more disabled people (particularly with sensory impairments) were in senior managerial roles which would boost recruitment....but not hopeful this will happen in my working lifetime.
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    CaroA · 1 days ago
    With love from Chat GBT... Bless it it has more morality and humanity in it than these old testament politicians....


    'The Calvinist work ethic, also known as the Protestant work ethic, stems from the teachings of John Calvin. It emphasizes hard work, discipline, and frugality as moral virtues, suggesting that success and worldly achievements are signs of God's favor and salvation. This belief has deeply influenced Western society, often tying a person’s moral worth to their ability to work and succeed. Today, this mindset still affects attitudes toward disability benefits, reinforcing harmful ideas that equate worthiness with productivity, rather than recognizing the inherent value of all individuals'



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    Labour Out · 2 days ago
    People the only way to stop this is to keep pressure on MPs 
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    Labour Out · 2 days ago
    I think based on this proposed legisation that The House of Commons Administration should be given similar powers in relations to MPs bank accounts 

    What does anyone else think 
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    Anon · 2 days ago
    If Labour brings in a PiP voucher system in any form then I will seriously have to think about moving over to the Green Party; such a thing goes completely against my belief system as a socialist.
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    naheegan · 2 days ago
    It looks like bank surveillance is here already.

    I was in town today and got some cash at an ATM to pay a bill and set aside some cash for next elec/gas top ups. I had to make two withdrawals to make the total I needed, because the cash machine would not dispense over a certain amount in a single transaction. The total wasn't more than the daily allowable withdrawal limit. And it wasn't different from my usual withdrawal that I do monthly and have been doing for some months now.

    Within 20 minutes of getting home, my bank called (automated call), to 'protect you from fraud'. They said they had frozen my bank card, which they claimed would be unfrozen after they gathered necessary information: who I was, and whether it was me that made the £XXX.00 withdrawal. They only asked about one withdrawal, though.

    I called my bank's Fraud Prevention Team with a list of questions. My card was no longer blocked, but what I learned does not sit well with me. The 'suspicious activity' was automatically passed (by AI?) to the Fraud Prevention Team, and my card immediately frozen. But why was it done at all? At first, the bank employee tried to tell me that the transaction was flagged because of previous fraudulent activity at the atm I used. Then, when I asked if transactions were less likely to be flagged as 'fraudulent' if I used the atm outside my bank, the answer was no. No transparency about the 'why', then. I was told that it was unlikely to happen again, but no guarantees. 

    I understand that people become victims of fraud in all sorts of ways, and that having banks protect their customers is a good thing. But not today, and maybe not in the future.

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      MrFibro · 1 days ago
      @A Best of it, they hack the other side of the globe into your uk bank account.
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      naheegan · 1 days ago
      @lesley-anne Thank you lesley. I was taken aback because it had never happened before and it was a common withdrawal for me.

      That's not useful to only have one atm in your town, and it having been targeted in the past by fraudsters. Have you watched any youtube videos that show how to spot a messed-with atm? 

      Good that you have a Post Office, it being a secure place for transactions. 
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      naheegan · 1 days ago
      @A Thanks for that information. 
      Your story raised a giggle. 
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      A · 2 days ago
      @naheegan Nah. This has nothing to do with the DWP and surveillance of any sort. It simply has to do with banks taking extra measures not to breach data protection rules, and thus be liable to compensations.

      It also happened to me about 6 months ago, while I was trying to buy a new fridge at Argos when my old fridge finally gave up the ghost. The order with Argos failed to go through. Later, Barclays Fraud Prevention Team called me and told me that hackers had tried to withdraw a few millions of pounds from my account each time on several occasions, giving me the dates and exact amounts, and that they had blocked my card.

      I told them that they should have let them withdraw the millions but leave me anything that's less than a 1000. Guess what - all I had in my account was I think about 700 pounds.
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      lesley-anne · 2 days ago
      @naheegan
      So sorry that happened to you naheegan.  I am 76 and will be 77 in a couple of months time.
      I am now so terrified to use an ATM because quite a few, did a say quite a few, actually there is only one ATM now and that's outside the last remaining bank that we have where I live, Barclay? Also that last one has been targeted by criminals.  I go to my local post office and draw out cash there.  That's if you still have a working post office or a bank for that matter.
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    Pete · 2 days ago
    Sir Rodney the Charmer is now defending his son's rights to a 20K flat to stay in while disabled, old, and sick people cringe. If people are pushed into work will they also get free clothing allowances ?
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      Labour Out · 1 days ago
      @Pete Starmer is worth about 7 million. So he wasn't able to provide somewhere himself for his son to study for his GCSEs.

      Imagine his son was in over crowded accommodation studying for his GCSEs

      Imagine his son was in a home that couldn't be heated studying for his GCSEs

      Imagine his son was hungry in a home that is relying on foodbanks studying for his GCSEs

      That's the situation for millions of people on this country 

      Yet he's cutting welfare and OAPs while doing a U turn on 
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    The Termagant · 2 days ago
    My husband died this year. I am a pensioner who has had the winter fuel allowance stopped. I receive PIP as I have a number of heath problems. I  had 2 back operations last week. I am entirely on my own. Now I am worrying about being made to feel like a second class citizen if we end up with a voucher scheme. Better off Dead should be this government's mantra.
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      PP · 1 days ago
      @The Termagant I am so sorry to hear this, I am also in a similar situation as you, and also on my own, so understand what you're going through, and I don't have any family or friends who can support me. I am so worried if they bring out the vouchers for PIP, and the difficulties I'll have in using these, I'm feeling sick everytime in my stomach when thinking about this and really struggling to cope with my daily routine with all this going on.
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    phil · 2 days ago
    We people on benefits need our own Union these days it seems. Could there possibly be such a thing ? The trouble being we can't strike. Or can we in some other kind of way ? We could sue though ? There have after all been sympathetic reports from European bodies on the way the poor and disabled are treated in in the UK.
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      lesley-anne · 2 days ago
      @phil Phil, all we can do is get out on the streets and march in protest, on our crutches, in our wheelchairs with placards. There is nothing the goverment hates more than seeing the sick and disabled on the march.
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    CaroA · 2 days ago
    After the cash-for-expenses scandal 2009, the press—highly influenced at the time—shifted their focus onto the disability community as a way to divert attention. Rhetoric around disability fraud, scrounges etc commonplace in the press. And could it be the case that we’re seeing something similar happening now, with Labour under scrutiny for its use of donors and resources? It seems whenever those in power face controversies, they turn the spotlight on us, forcing the disability community to defend itself instead of addressing their own serious controversies.



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    CaroA · 2 days ago
    Please see email below I sent to my Labour MP.  I have also asked him to forward it onto the prime ministers office.  Probably will make little difference but it helps to express some of the distress....

    'I wanted to raise a matter of deep concern following recent comments made by the prime minister about getting all sick people back into work. These comments, without careful consideration of the complexities surrounding disability and chronic illness, are thoughtless and deeply troubling to many in the disabled community, including myself.

    As someone who has had to navigate the disability benefits system for many years, I can attest to the constant fear and anxiety these kinds of policies induce. The challenges faced by people like me, living with chronic, long-term conditions, are not easily addressed by a blanket approach to "getting people back to work." Many of us are already doing a full-time job, caring for ourselves and managing our complex, distressing health conditions. These responsibilities require enormous physical and emotional effort, which often goes unacknowledged. A one-size-fits-all policy risks serious harm to our already fragile health and further marginalizing those with complex health issues.

    It is essential that voices like ours are heard, and that the lived experience of disabled people informs policy, rather than being sidelined by sweeping generalizations. We need policies that take into account the realities of living with long-term health conditions, rather than ones that assume work is a straightforward solution for everyone.'

    Thanks MP bla-da-bla....



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      CaroA · 11 hours ago
      @Arthur Thanks Arthur of course it feels like whistling into the wind but at least made me feel a bit better taking some action.
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      Arthur · 18 hours ago
      @CaroA Well put Carol but I suspect that the Mp you contacted already knows the reality that disabled benefit claimants have to live with.
      Unfortunately these politicians simply don't care. How can they when they are seemingly 
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      CaroA · 1 days ago
      @Elizabeth Vidler Thanks Elizabeth good to hear there are many of us trying to make our MPs hear... Its difficult feeling so powerless (for me and many others literally powerless with these health conditions) but also in this respect.  None of this uncertainty is helping anybody.
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      CaroA · 1 days ago
      @The Dogmother Thank you 😊
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      Kaz · 2 days ago
      @CaroA I was left paralyzed on my left side after major brain surgery for a brain aneurysm that burst, whilst at work. Now I'd like to know how many minutes he could cope with only 1 arm which has to hold a quad stick,to stay upright. Now my right arm that holds my stick and does all daily activities has carpal tunnel syndrome. And he thinks I can work,doing what exactly.? Second class citizens through no fault of my own.
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    ClaudetteN · 2 days ago
    Where can I find a Human Rights barrister to help with the inhumane treatment that will be inflicted. 

    Union members can opt out of their contribution that supports the Labour Party. 

    "Under section 84 of the Tradr Union 1992 Act, the trade union is obliged to inform its members that “each member has a right to be exempted from contributing to the union’s political fund”. The union must also inform the member that a form of exemption notice can be obtained from the union or the Certification Officer.16 A member may give notice in the form provided by the union or in a form to the same effect. On giving such an exemption notice, a member must be exempted from contributing to the political fund. The means by which the union should inform its members about their right of exemption are not specified" *

    * Source

    I have. 

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      Disillusioned · 19 hours ago
      @Anon Just like every Prime Minister before him, he has to appease party donors. Money talks. This bill will pass in some form or other. It all started several years ago when the government used a terrorist attack as an excuse to read peoples emails. Since then they’ve been gradually passing more laws to enable them to invade the public’s privacy. Privacy won’t exist in the future, it’s inevitable. There’s a current law in place that states that every individual has the right to live their lives without interference from the government. They have broken their own law multiple times and will continue to do so. If anyone even thinks of using this law in an attempt to combat the government’s invasion of privacy they will simply change the law. This country is a dictatorship dressed up as a democracy. I thought to myself, I’m going to trust Starmer, he will do the right thing in the end. “Government returning to service” right? Right? I’m let down again. This is the last straw for me. I no longer believe in politics or politicians. 
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      Anon · 1 days ago
      @ClaudetteN Starmer was a human rights lawyer, you'd think he would be more compassionate. He appears to be the opposite from what I've seen so far.
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    JohnHenderson · 2 days ago
    Will contributary based ESA and my PIP be open to DWP scrutiny?

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      Anon · 2 days ago
      @JohnHenderson I believe PIP was under the Tories plans, I am guessing it will be under this new Labour system. They said it was to make sure people in receipt of PIP weren't out of the country for more than 4 weeks at a time, as that's against the rules.
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      Dawn · 2 days ago
      @JohnHenderson I too would like the answer to this question
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      Reg · 2 days ago
      @JohnHenderson It's pretty vague at the moment but the trial run by the previous govt was for means tested benefits only. 


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    Anon · 2 days ago
    Surely this can be fought against in court, isn’t it a breach of basic human rights? 
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      Anon · 1 days ago
      @Alex The Tories bill, which was very similar,  had progressed a long way through the Lords and looked likely to become law. It was only thrown out because Sunak called an election.
      I do think this will happen, the Tony Blair institute has been pushing for greater use of AI to check accounts for fraud for a few years now. 
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      MrFibro · 1 days ago
      @Anon The humans right courts have been on the DWP's backs, but the goverment just ignore them.

      DWP are a law unto their own, and noone seems to be able to touch them.  Thats including high court judges, and even coroners.
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      Anon · 2 days ago
      @Alex I hope so, or charities will come out in force to fight this, something has got to be done. It’s beyond cruel! Why is it always disabled people continually victimised? I am beyond terrified right now, what with all the talk of PIP being replaced by vouchers too?? Utterly terrified right now. 
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      Alex · 2 days ago
      @Anon Hopefully it won't make it through the house of lords?
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      Eva · 2 days ago
      @Anon It is . 
      Labour is not better than Tories . Prosecuting sick and disabled is illegal, full stop . 
      This is something I would go to court on - Starmer is a Tory in red. 
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    Old mother · 2 days ago
    Fraud is an indictment of the system - not the user. 

    I’m sure given enough time some genius in gov will decide current system (s) not fit for purpose and throw more money at creating a new one. 
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    MNR · 2 days ago
    I’m sure I’m not the only one who has to use PIP towards paying for bills, food, clothing etc as I’m unable to work. Therefore cutting the money and offering vouchers would be of no help as I’m sure they would only be for mobility aids and possibly travel costs. I’m disgusted with the insensitivity of Labour but not surprised after their manifesto was devoid of any information relating to sick and disabled people. How can they be so mindless not to accept that some people are just too unwell to work no matter how much they are pushed and threatened. I became unwell in middle age, after working for 20 years, and am now physically unable to even care for myself let alone work. I absolutely hate how I have ended up but there is nothing that can be done to change that  I am no longer strong enough to fight them if they take money away for lack of working or offer vouchers only. It feels like we will be left with nothing until we slowly die and they don’t even have the decency to pass a bill to allow assisted dying so we can choose a quicker more dignified end. It’s hard enough just existing from day to day when you get to the horrible state some of us are in but they just have to make the stress and worry even worse. 



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      Kaz · 2 days ago
      @MNR Exactly. I say we give him the same amount of money that disabled people get and laugh whilst he cries. The worst illness he's had is nappy rash!!! Not everyone has good health all their lives.
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      PJ · 2 days ago
      @MNR Share your thoughts MNR
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      Reg · 2 days ago
      @MNR Try not to worry until something solid is actually announced. There's so much noise about everything labour does or doesn't do at the moment. 

      The talk of getting people into work doesn't overly worry me as it's similar to the language used in the previous labour govt who seemed to then assess far more fairly than the govt who came next.

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