MPs are expected to vote on the  Universal Credit and Personal Independence Payment Bill tomorrow whilst the secretary of state for work and pensions is unable to explain what will happen to current PIP claimants if they are reassessed after November 2026.

Vicky Foxcroft asked Kendall today (see around 16.10 on parliament tv) , “If claimants request a reassessment because of  worsening health conditions, will they be assessed under the current criteria or the new eligibility criteria?”

Kendall replied,  “As is the case now, people can request reassessment whenever they want.  For existing claimants they will remain under the new rules unless they request a reassessment until November 2026.  From November 2026 onwards, there will be that 4 point minimum.”

Aside from being almost nonsense – how can existing claimants “remain under the new rules” – Kendall’s answer does seem to say that if you are an existing claimant and you request a change of circumstances review after November 2026 your protection from the 4-point rule disappears.  

But the whole point of the protection from the 4-point rule is supposed to be that, if your award is reviewed after November 2026, you will still be under the current rules not the 4-point rule.

In which case, according to Kendall the system will be different depending on whether an existing claimant has a planned award review or a change of circumstances award review.

Whether Kendall got it wrong or this is actually the plan, the degree of confusion – and the lack of written information - just 24 hours before MPs are expected to vote on a bill which will affect millions, is extraordinary and makes a mockery of the entire process.

UPDATE:  the DWP have now apparently confirmed that Liz Kendall "misspoke" and that change of circumstances reviews for current claimants will not involve the 4-point rule after November 2026.  As we said, utter confusion and a mockery of the democratic process.

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    · 18 hours ago
    Oh it's a farce! Let's wait and see what happens tomorrow. This government are a joke. Keir starmer, Liz Kendall & Rachel reeves need to go. 
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    · 18 hours ago
    What a half baked shambles 
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    · 18 hours ago
    complete con trick, because there still having vote tommorow.
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    · 18 hours ago
    Think they've corrected her now.


    Again 
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    · 18 hours ago
    I’m sure it will be what ever gets most claimants off benefits it’s not about protecting claimants who have disabilities but saving the government money. Same today a reply DLA claimants currently suspended until 2028 but when migrated to PIP will be classed as new claimant so 4 points rule applies!
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    · 18 hours ago
    It doesn’t surprise me at all because the ones making decisions usually aren’t doing the actual cases. Oh dear oh dear will they blow it it’s not looking good for Liz 
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    · 18 hours ago
    So wil I need to get 4 points on my reassessment in 2028?
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    · 18 hours ago
    From sky news 

    Tories to vote against government's welfare reforms
    Kemi Badenoch has confirmed the Conservatives will vote against the government's welfare reforms tomorrow.
    Tory MPs had been sitting on the fence somewhat until now, suggesting they might be willing to back the prime minister as they too believe the benefits bill needs to come down.
    But Badenoch says Labour's plans are "not serious".
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    · 18 hours ago
    They're now saying Kendall "mis-spoke". Good to see she's got such a firm grasp of essential detail.
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      · 16 hours ago
      @Slb It's one of the most basic questions though. You'd think she get that sort of thing right even if she then "mis-spoke" about something more minor.
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      · 16 hours ago
      @tintack I think that's unfair.  She might be many horrible things, but anyone would make a mistake answering questions in that crucible for two hours.  It's been corrected.  That's the main thing. 
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    · 18 hours ago
    I don't think she's done herself any favours with that answer. It confirms that the mantra about existing claimants being protected is not all it appears. For that confirmation to come from Kendall herself on the floor of the Commons is not good for her or the government at all.
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    · 18 hours ago
    Ms Whittome, MP for Nottingham East, said: “The Government talks of co-production in the Pip (personal independence payment) review, but it’s not co-production if the Government’s starting point is delivering cuts, and it’s asking disabled people where they would prefer those cuts to be, rather than how can we create a system that truly supports disabled people.

    “Does the Secretary of State not accept that after months of the Government ignoring disabled people, the only way meaningful co-production can take place is by pulling this Bill and going back to the drawing board?”
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    · 18 hours ago
    Yes ...a total car crash.
    So much to discuss but I'll pick up on one point or I'd be here forever.
    The Timms review - she stated it would look at all aspects of PIP including descriptors.
    With any changes implemented after the Autumn statement.
    She dodged whether those changes would need to be debated by MPs.
    If I'm reading this right does that mean they could change the descriptors ?
    Without MPs voting ?
    If that's the case then we can guess what the outcome of that review will be.
    If I misunderstood that I welcome members feedback.
    I think it went very badly for the Government but you can never tell until the vote.
    Fingers crossed.
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    · 18 hours ago
    BBC Live reporting:

    The Conservatives have just put the pressure on, and confirmed they will vote against the bill tomorrow.
    That’s more than 100 no votes in the bag, and it's now likely to be down to how Labour rebels vote that decides whether the bill passes.

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    · 18 hours ago
    Debbie Abrahams is taking notes. she was really angry in a vox pop on radio5 live today. She is a veteran of the work and pensions committee, has seen torys and now labour make a dangerous horlinks of welfare reforms. I think we might end up with the bill falling, for mps are realising how ill thought out these proposals are. a money grab from a desperate chancellor who doesn't want to tax the wealth of the rich if ever there was one. it's not even as if the pain is evened out, pensioners and working age taking a hit, this would be bad enough, but it's all working age, and only disabled people to be hit. have we got a labour party, or did the torys just pass the baton? I asked my mp this in so many words when all this started. Let's hope the new intake find their labour values and tell the right wing of their party to shove the thing in the bin. labour potentially going for a money bill if it gets through vote is just what the torys did too, shameful. let's hope labour's plans get put on a bonfire. It's not as if they've finished rolling out pip migration or UC migration either. they can't even get those right.
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    · 18 hours ago
    As I said a little while earlier, the Amendment published on the Commons website today, attached to a letter by Timms, clearly states that current claimants will reviewed under the old eligibility whether that review is planned or through a change of circumstance.  It's likely Kendall misspoke or got tongue-tied. 

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    · 18 hours ago
    I think that they will pull the bill after that showing.
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    · 18 hours ago
    Kendall also said PIP is not an in work benefit… she has no clue… she is going to create good jobs… from where and Timms left before half way through.
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      · 15 hours ago
      @Harli In out in out shake it all about 
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    · 18 hours ago
    They either really haven't got a clue what they are doing or, this is deliberate obfuscation and confusion, trying to hide what they are doing, until the vote goes through.  Perhaps it's both.