Labour’s proposed new personal independence payment (PIP) 4-point rule will lead to almost nine out of ten current standard daily living awards failing on renewal, a freedom of information request has revealed.  In effect, Labour are hiding the virtual abolition of the standard rate behind a seemingly small change to the scoring system.

Labour intends to remove the daily living component from claimants who do not score 4 points or higher for at least one activity, when their PIP award is reviewed from November 2026.

The department have now revealed the proportion of current claimants who would lose out under this rule, as of January 2025:

  • Out of 1,608,000 enhanced daily living awards, 13% (209,000) get fewer than 4 points in all activities.
  • Out of 1,283,000 standard daily living awards, 87% (1,116,000) get fewer than 4 points in all activities.

The Office for Budget Responsibility (OBR) has suggested that the number of claimants who will lose their awards will not be as high as the 1,325,250 that these figures suggest.

Instead, they argue that the actual number will be 800,000 because people will fight harder to be awarded a 4-point descriptor, including by challenging decisions.

At Benefits and Work, we think that the OBR are being much too optimistic in arguing that over half a million claimants will be able to increase their scores, because:

  • there are very limited opportunities to get four point descriptors for claimants, especially with some conditions,
  • the standard of assessments is very poor in many cases and there is a lack of understanding of many conditions,
  • the mandatory revisions and appeals process is very long-drawn out and demanding and there is very little support available for claimants whose health conditions may limit their ability to pursue an appeal.

Whatever the final number might be, there will be vastly fewer standard rate daily living awards by the time all current awards have been reviewed. And very few new claims from November 2026 will lead to an award of the standard rate daily living component.

We know that Labour plan to scrap the work capability assessment in 2028 and replace it with a new, single assessment for PIP and the UC health element. 

It now seems entirely possible that they are preparing the ground for the complete abolition of the standard rate of the daily living component altogether for new claims, when the combined assessment is introduced.

You can read the full FoI response here.

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    · 2 days ago
    They created the rules of this game, they played & lost, so they tweaked the rules,lost again, re-wrote the rules AGAIN & now want to RIP UP the rules of the game THEY CREATED.

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    · 2 days ago
    1.3 million+ will lose PIP
    Another 1 million+ will lose LCWRA

    RED ALERT
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      · 1 days ago
      @Anon As of March 2025, approximately 1.8 million people on Universal Credit were on LCWRA. If you add those on LCWRA who are still on ESA, including me, then we're talking about more than 2 million on LCWRA who are at grave risk.
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      · 2 days ago
      @Anon I'm assuming, therefore, that the cuts will exceed £5 billion, and will be more in line with what Sunak proposed last year, ie £12 billion?  Unless we can get this challenged all the way to the Supreme Court (and win) then I think we are probably stuffed. It's making me very cautious in regards to finding alternative, and better paid, employment.
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    · 2 days ago
    Unfortunately, the sad reality is none of these people & MP'S can be trusted whatsoever, including local councils.

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    · 3 days ago
    What I have been wondering about is why the Government have concentrated their proposed changes to PIP qualification purely on the Daily Living. Why have they excluded Mobility? In no way do I want that included and am pleased they have left it alone - but - could it be because of the Mobility car scheme and anyone politically having fingers in that particular pie?
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      · 3 days ago
      @Moose It could be down to the fact that they would find it extremely difficult to leave existing PIP claimants with absolutely nothing as opposed to just a measly £300 a month (and that's if you get enhanced) and it's the lowest amount of money that PIP offers so why bother kicking up a fuss about it when you could paint it as a small mercy? 

      "Well, we're not going to leave them with absolutely no money to live on! They'll still get the mobility component of PIP because we've been gracious enough to leave that alone, you see!"

      But also yes, I think it is mainly to do with the Motability car scheme because apparently banks make a killin' off it (sure - they refuse to say how much but... they're banks, you know they make bank lol) and you can bet they wagged the finger at the government and the government listened because hey, money talks.

      Perhaps a good call to action would be for people to return their Motability cars prematurely so these banks realise the profits they'll lose when people ultimately use their mobility component to save what very little money they have left after the cuts. An half-serious suggestion, obviously, but it makes you wonder if it'll make the banks soil the bed. 
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      · 3 days ago
      @Moose 20% of all car sales are due to mobility operations so it is a big chunk in the market. Wonder how the care industry people feel though since they won't be able to sell aids and other things for care
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      · 3 days ago
      @Moose Made booboo in other comment. Should read

      For example 

      11a (0 points) + 12a (not b) (0 points) = 0 points [no PIP]
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      · 3 days ago
      @Moose Because recipients of PIP mobility already have to score a minimum of 4 points in both descriptors 11 and 12 or 0 points plus 8 points to qualify for the standard rate. 

      For example 

      11a (0 points) + 12b (0 points) = 0 points [no PIP]
      11b (4 points) + 12a (0 points) = 4 points [no PIP]
      11b (4 points) + 12b (4 points) = 8 points [PIP]
      11a (0 points) + 12c (8 points) = 8 points [PIP]

      Does that make sense?

      That answers any questions about the new 4-point rule; however if you're wanting to know why everyone has to get PIP daily living to also get UC LCWRA (or whichever other benefits), the answer's a lot simpler:

      Vindictiveness.

      (The government wishes to harm us as they believe we are harming the economy and not contributing to the country's coffers.)



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    · 3 days ago
    I agree that one of the main issues is the very poor standard of assessments. Recently I have seen a number of Health Professional Reports which faithfully record what the individual has said but then goes on to award 0 or 2 points as they claim that the evidence suggests that they can do an activity unaided or using an aid. This is based on very flimsy evidence if any. One person I supported was awarded 0 points for planning and following a journey. The assessor appeared to justify this on the grounds that she has a driving license. The assessor also helpfully recorded that she has not driven for the past three years.! The assessor gave no points for taking nutrition as she eats one meal a day even though they recorded that her husband has to prompt her to eat. This person has a medical condition which means that she experiences constant and chronic fatigue which the assessor described in the report as "tiredness".  I have been supporting another person who is very clearly entitled to PIP but was awarded too few points to get an award. She has physical and mental health conditions and has decided that she can't face challenging the decision. 
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    · 3 days ago
    Do we have the number of ESA/UC LCWRA claimants that do not receive PIP? Another group that's going to be hit. 
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      · 1 days ago
      @Anon Indeed pensioners can claim attendance allowance, but what's the alternative benefit for those of working age losing PIP and LCWRA?
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      · 1 days ago
      @Anon WCA is not being scrapped until 2028. The PIP reassessments or new claims  for PIP will be under the new 4point rule from Nov 26. But assessments for other benefits ESA or UC will continue with the WCA until 2028 when they will switch to using the PIP daily living criteria.
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      · 1 days ago
      @Bern400 I'm one of those. I could claim pip and get the 4 points if it were fair. But we all know it wont be. It's going to be hell for us on LCWRA. Please vote in the local elections.
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      · 1 days ago
      @Bern400 True
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      · 1 days ago
      @WorkshyLayabout The Government has said, if a pensioner loses PIP they can claim attendance allowance instead.
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    · 3 days ago
    So the government will be saving alot more than 5 billion then in cuts.
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      · 3 days ago
      @Cecelia I've never believed for a minute their so called 5 billion, it doesn't add up because so many people will fail plus as result not only losing pip, it will alter their UC award or similar. I know I got through on last claim but it was paper based, the 2 prior that were in person I scored pretty much nothing in the care section, not enough for standard. So I count myself as in danger as I believe the with the tricks they play in f2f I'd of scored lower, simply because they don't see the internal hell going on.
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    · 3 days ago
    Equal Lives (Norfolk, suffolk) are calling for comments on the govt proposals, which they will anonomise and send to all mps in the area.

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      · 3 days ago
      @James Matt I voted strategically as in my area the race was really between the conservatives or LibDems while Green and Labour were did not stand a chance. As I did not want the Conservatives even though the MP was fairly a liberal conservative on I went for the LibDem candidate and he has been doing well. In each area the local situation would dictate which way to vote and for which type of election if we are to stand a chance in getting people who are going to be supportive towards the disabled and sick. So even a Conservative or Labour that is on your side deserves support but not those who do not stand up for disabled and sick people!
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      · 3 days ago
      @James It'll be green. Don't trust lib dem
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      · 3 days ago
      @Slb My suggestion is in every local election leading up to the next election is to vote either green or libdem strategically to keep the neo nasties out!
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    · 3 days ago
    I get enhanced daily living and standard mobility rates on PIP, my whole daily living part of the award would rely on the 4 points I got from Engaging with Other People, the tribunal awarded me. So technically I'd still get PIP but the proposals are so arbitrary and even with the award I get now, I certainly don't trust the DWP to honour it next time. If these changes go ahead, hardly anyone with variable and invisible disabilities will get PIP. Some days I am fully capable and able, other days I can't do nothing and more or less homebound with no control over this. I don't deal with change very well, I don't cope well with competition or pressure, ruthless in our world! Stuff like zero hours  contracts and open plan workplaces make work completely inaccessible for me. Still waiting for the government to say where the employers are who are willing to work with limitations such as these... None of it is well thought through at all and a political choice. They must tax the assets of the super rich, not attack the poor and disabled.
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    · 3 days ago
    A new online petition is urging the UK Government to ‘stop the cuts’ to Personal Independence Payment (PIP) and provide “fair and compassionate welfare policies that protect, not punish, the most vulnerable in society”.

    https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/721828
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      · 1 days ago
      @Monalisa SM Think this must be a new petition. The one that is gaining traction is this one: https://www.change.org/p/tax-wealth-don-t-cut-disability-support
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      · 3 days ago
      @James Why has it goes so less signatures when it’s such a serious problem?
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      · 3 days ago
      @James signed, although I don't think it'll any difference. Labour are hell bent on these reforms, come what may. It was so unfortunate that last July only approx 60% of the electorate voted, of which approx 20% voted Labour and yet due to FPTP (and everyone's wish to kick out the Tories), Starmer got a 174 majority. It would have been so much better for all of us if his majority had been around 12 (Cameron in 2015) or 21 (Major 1992)
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    · 3 days ago
    my review is 2027 i will be 66 just hoping i will get a light touch review seeing that i will be 1 year shy of retirement age ?? fingers crossed 
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    · 3 days ago
    Of course most fail. That's why the new test was brought in. Rather than do more to help those unemployed & in good health, this government pursues highly immoral policies which punish the easy targets & the vulnerable to pander to the unthinking mob & RW media. It's bound to cost them dearly come the next GE. There are no moral grounds to strip financial support from those suffering chronic ill-health & who are largely unemployable in any economic climate, let alone one of  rising costs. The Tory cutbacks initiated by IDS directly cost some people their lives. That's verifiable fact. So will Starmer's Labour. All so avoidable if only we had people of integrity & principle in government. 
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    · 3 days ago
    It's just proposals that will get stopped and people could write open letters to reform aswell to tell them how much they'll be fought if they do cut support if they win next election farage is another one that doesn't like disabled people .
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      · 3 days ago
      @Lill Reform are not friends of the disabled, nicely ferages recent speech indicates that they would probably make things worse for all of us,people who have been sick like myself for 30 years are unemployable and they damn well know it,I was medically retired 30 years ago,they didn't even want to move my job to my home town which they could have done,I worked for the courts service,they effectively caused my unemployment claim by refusing to move me to a suitable location,litrally down the road from my home,I then in 2005 went on to lose a kitchen job ( in 2 days ) a voluntary job also in 2 days of starting and then a job in a school after 6 months when I couldn't keep up,never worked since,so 3 lost jobs in 1 year,I gave up after that when I developed further medical conditions, noone us going to employ me,I'm 56 in a few months as well,all this is absolute madness
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    · 3 days ago
    I don't trust them not to go further either. I currently get EDL because I get 8 points in one of the few MH related categories and 2 points for prompting in several others. Reading between the lines of their arguments so far I find it probable that they will scrap the prompting score entirely. That will leave me entirely reliant on the single category remaining to keep not only SDL but LCWRA. If they decide that we must tick more than one category or if they reduce the points in that remaining category or - most likely - I get a bad assessment and lose the 8 points, I am doomed. I cannot survive on basic UC, I cannot tolerate ANY forced contact with work coaches and I would not survive the many months in would take to appeal. My MH is already in crisis at the prospect of all this, if it actually happened I would lose my remaining grip, and be gone.
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    · 3 days ago
    My renewal date is Sept 2026. 
    Lucky me. I'm sure they will conveniently push the new rules on me one way or another. 
    Absolutely done up like a kipper. 
    The four points might as well be 104 points. 
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      · 3 days ago
      @The Dogmother I'm also hoping for an indefinite award this time around too but no doubt the government will be putting pressure on DWP to not award them in the midst of these changes. 

      They're clearly already unhappy with the number of people on indefinite awards as it is as there's talks that they're going to review the amount of time between the reviews on indefinite awards and Timms has the audacity to disguise it as "improving the service".

      Like he's doing the chronically ill who have zero chance of getting better a favour by possibly suggesting they be subjected to more frequent reassessments! Unbelievable. 

      He should just admit that Reeves isn't happy with the savings projections and wants him to shake us upside down by the ankles some more. I'd have a lot more respect for him if he did.

      I can only hope they don't intend on changing the light touch form itself even with the more frequent check-ins but who honestly knows at point?

      And thank you. Best of luck to you and your husband too! Your medical evidence should serve you well at a tribunal at the very least.
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      · 3 days ago
      @The Dogmother The phantom down voter strikes again.
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      · 3 days ago
      @Anon @Anon I'm absolutely dreading it tbh, either way. I've a lot of new medical evidence too.  That i shall start to gather copies of very soon. I've ongoing consultant appointments and Other things aswell. I just wish I could get an ongoing award, but no doubt they'll be as rare as hens teeth even more so. Looks like I might be in the midst of moving onto UC and doing my pip review at the same time or very closely together. 😭
      But I am not letting my pip go easily, I never have. Apart from the loss of money there's a principle at stake too. Luck to you. 
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      · 3 days ago
      @Slb Sorry, my last comment was in response to this! 
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      · 3 days ago
      @The Dogmother
      I’m in the same boat. Nov 2027 is my renewal date.

      However, right now, DWP backlogs are around 12-18 months so with any luck you may get your renewal form earlier than Dec 2026. I’ve seen people whose awards don’t end until summer 2026 reporting that they got their renewal forms already, for example.

      Never thought I’d say this in response to getting a PIP reassessment but fingers crossed.
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    · 3 days ago
    Thank you, B&W, for all your much appreciated work.


    This clip says it all. Politicians in America brutalizing those on benefits. Kicking those below as you climb the greasy pole seems to have become humanity’s favourite international sport.  
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      · 3 days ago
      @CaroA Propaganda isn't a wonderful thing ? It is just like the attacks on our human rights where they find a handful of cases the government lost on over human rights gives us a knee jerk reaction to tell us that our human rights are bad for us! Right!
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      · 3 days ago
      @CaroA The truth.
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    · 3 days ago
    This is the killer, literally in some cases: 

    "the mandatory revisions and appeals process is very long-drawn out and demanding and there is very little support available for claimants whose health conditions may limit their ability to pursue an appeal"

    I pursued an appeal over 3 years for someone who was eventually awarded standard daily living but no mobility, when they should have got the higher mobility. It was a big payment backdated for the three years and a shed load more than the nothing originally offered, nonetheless only about half what I knew was owed. I just didn't have the stamina to take it further and I feared that because of the "lack of understanding of many conditions" there was a high likelihood we'd fail because the evidence would not be accepted.

    This is what the dwp and government rely on - our lack of wherewithal to fight. They must be rubbing their hands when they see the statistics, though they might have underestimated our desperate strength when backed into a corner.
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    · 3 days ago
    Yes, the OBR's forecast that so many people will successfully gain 4 points by 'fighting' harder is deluded. It's almost like no one in the OBR has even met a person who claims PIP. Yes, people will try for 4 points in order to survive, but you have to fight tooth and nail as it is for even significant disability to be recognised and supported.
    Mr Timms has not so far responded to my email. Perhaps he wasn't flattered by it. 
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    · 4 days ago
    Thank you; utterly depressing, and oh so predictable.  And neither Reform or the Tories will repeal this.  Effectively, we are going back to pre-1992 (when DLA was introduced).  At least I'll get the mobility component but it's a hell of a cut in my standard of living. Combined with wage suppression at work and the lack of promotions (which I have already mentioned to the Head of HR, so will be expecting my P45 sometime soon!) means that it's going to be very grim from around 2029 (my renewal date is 2030 but expect that to be brought forward).
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      · 2 days ago
      @Matt And HOW they have ALL ganged up on us behind the scenes….💩😷💩😷💩😷

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