ib to esa transfer

I wonder if anyelse has had this happen to them...after fillin in the esa50 form and attending an atos medical ( 26/3/12). In May I was contacted by phone by the decision maker who said I was borderline on 12 points...and asked me to clear a few points for him....I was asked why I had filled an online esa50 and if anyone had helped...then why I used my cycle to go everwhere...I replied I had arthritis in my hip and knee and it was far less painfull in the saddle, which took my weight and allowed me to go places I cudnt of otherwise reached..He then asked if anything had changed since the medical...which had the appt for my knee replacement had cum through for June 1st. He then said he wud phoneback in 5 mins which he did...he said he was putting me in the support group and my benefits wudnt change. I was pleased of course but now I'm puzzled ...my benefits didnt change on my bank statement still IB and IS fortnightly...I reached no letter from the decision maker and have recently been contacted by Jobcentreplus asking me to attend a 3 year review on my IB for a 'Work Focused interview'in two days time.I rang to query this and was told I was still on IB and he cudnt see any transfer on the system and anyway he cudnt access the ESA information on me..he seemed to doubt I had been for the medical etc and gave me another appt for next month. Any comments? Ps I am still recovering from the knee replacement surgery, next up my hip replacement lol. Any ideas as wot is goin on?

macker wrote:

I wonder if anyelse has had this happen to them...after fillin in the esa50 form and attending an atos medical ( 26/3/12). In May I was contacted by phone by the decision maker who said I was borderline on 12 points...and asked me to clear a few points for him....I was asked why I had filled an online esa50 and if anyone had helped...then why I used my cycle to go everwhere...I replied I had arthritis in my hip and knee and it was far less painfull in the saddle, which took my weight and allowed me to go places I cudnt of otherwise reached..He then asked if anything had changed since the medical...which had the appt for my knee replacement had cum through for June 1st. He then said he wud phoneback in 5 mins which he did...he said he was putting me in the support group and my benefits wudnt change. I was pleased of course but now I'm puzzled ...my benefits didnt change on my bank statement still IB and IS fortnightly...I reached no letter from the decision maker and have recently been contacted by Jobcentreplus asking me to attend a 3 year review on my IB for a 'Work Focused interview'in two days time.I rang to query this and was told I was still on IB and he cudnt see any transfer on the system and anyway he cudnt access the ESA information on me..he seemed to doubt I had been for the medical etc and gave me another appt for next month. Any comments? Ps I am still recovering from the knee replacement surgery, next up my hip replacement lol. Any ideas as wot is goin on?

Hi M,

Yes, we are aware that DWP DM's may ring a claimant to discuss their qualification for ESA, before coming to a decision.

It sounds like there is a major "cock up" here.

You would remain in receipt of IB and IS until you received verification that you had completed the ESA WCA transfer process.

You should receive a letter informing you of this, giving you a cut off date for you IB/IS, and a start date for your ESA, if you qualify for it.

If you have the name of the DM that you spoke to, date and time, you could reference this conversation.

You need to gain some clarity as to your situation.

If you cannot gain any clarity, you may wish to contact your M.P., see :

Contacting your MP

You may also wish to take professional advice. :

Where to get advice?

bro58

further to my post last year....
On December 12th 2012 I received a letter from the JobcentrePlus saying, " Your benefit is changing to Employment and Support Allowance"

In the next paragraph it went on to say the effective date was 22nd May 2012, some 7 months previous. I was informed I had qualified for ESA WRAG and would be informed when and where to attend for work related activities.
I appealed as soon as I could understand what was meant by WRAG, but I submit that this delay in informing me of the decision was tantamount to saying I was in the support group from May till December and didn't have to attend work focused interviews but that no monetary allowance was due to me. Since last December and whilst appealing I have had to attend the Ingeus center for WRAG activities. Got my appeal next week any suggestions as to grounds for it ...
This situation doesn't seem to be unusual as in April 2013 I attended Atos for an medical assessment but still haven't been told the outcome!!!!
Is this situation normal , have they broken the law or the guidelines at all.

The fact that there was a delay in informing you that you were migrated to ESA does not mean you were in the support group. It simply means there was a delay in referring you to the work programme probably because the DWP are backed up with claims. You should look at the descriptors in the ESA introductory guide to see which ones apply to you. You only need one support group descriptor to apply but may find that more than one does. I see from previous posts you have arthritis so the mobility descriptor may apply. You may then wish to seek medical evidence to support this.

As your appeal is next week I assume you have your appeal papers. In these there should be a medical assessment report. You will want to go through this, and the rest of the papers, to see if there is anything you do not agree with and raise this at appeal. If you do not have your appeal papers you will want to ask for the appeal to be re-scheduled. I would also mention at the appeal the confusion the DWP have caused you. You may wish to write a history of events in chronological order from when you were first migrated until now.