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10 years 1 day ago #134646 by Tracy Neil
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Hi, I hope someone can answer my question because I have got myself all confused. I've just done two different benefit calculators online and to my horror neither of them say I am entitled to claim ESA.
However I am currently being paid the single person rate of IR ESA. I am in the assessment phase and am waiting for the medical with ATOS, no idea when this will be. The only income I have coming in is £185/month from my work as a board member for a local housing association. NB I have not attended any meetings etc for/with them since I was signed off sick by my GP two months ago, as I am actually not well enough to cope with them. But they are still paying me the stipend - I guess it's sort of 'company sick pay'. I've been struggling in very part-time extremely low paid work for the last few years because of my illness so I'm not entitled to any contribution based benefits.
When I put this £185/month into the benefit calculators as 'other income' or 'income from work' neither of them showed entitlement to ESA (I know entitlement also depends on the results of the medical). Am I expected to live only on this £185/month and pay back all the ESA I have received so far
? I have told the DWP twice in writing about this stipend but they haven't done anything about it. I thought they would take the £185 into account and pay me the difference in ESA. Have I got this wrong?
Please advise. I am trying not to panic! Thank you.
However I am currently being paid the single person rate of IR ESA. I am in the assessment phase and am waiting for the medical with ATOS, no idea when this will be. The only income I have coming in is £185/month from my work as a board member for a local housing association. NB I have not attended any meetings etc for/with them since I was signed off sick by my GP two months ago, as I am actually not well enough to cope with them. But they are still paying me the stipend - I guess it's sort of 'company sick pay'. I've been struggling in very part-time extremely low paid work for the last few years because of my illness so I'm not entitled to any contribution based benefits.
When I put this £185/month into the benefit calculators as 'other income' or 'income from work' neither of them showed entitlement to ESA (I know entitlement also depends on the results of the medical). Am I expected to live only on this £185/month and pay back all the ESA I have received so far

Please advise. I am trying not to panic! Thank you.
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10 years 23 hours ago - 10 years 23 hours ago #134658 by Gordon
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Tracy
Are you sure that you are not receiving Contribution Based ESA, ESA(CB) will always be paid if the DWP believe the claimant is eligible. The income you mention would have no effect on ESA(CB).
If you are receiving Income Related ESA then the payments should be deducted £ for £ from the ESA as a rough calculation; your ESA(IR) should be £73.10 and your weekly pension should be about £43.16 (£185 / 30 = £6.17 * 7 = £43.17), so you should be receiving about £29.93 (£73.10 - £43.17 = £29.93).
If you have informed the DWP in writing then the issue lies with them to resolve, you have discharged your responsibility for notifying them (have you confirmed that they have received the letters?). Any consequent overpayment would be their responsibility and should have no impact on you.
Gordon
Are you sure that you are not receiving Contribution Based ESA, ESA(CB) will always be paid if the DWP believe the claimant is eligible. The income you mention would have no effect on ESA(CB).
If you are receiving Income Related ESA then the payments should be deducted £ for £ from the ESA as a rough calculation; your ESA(IR) should be £73.10 and your weekly pension should be about £43.16 (£185 / 30 = £6.17 * 7 = £43.17), so you should be receiving about £29.93 (£73.10 - £43.17 = £29.93).
If you have informed the DWP in writing then the issue lies with them to resolve, you have discharged your responsibility for notifying them (have you confirmed that they have received the letters?). Any consequent overpayment would be their responsibility and should have no impact on you.
Gordon
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10 years 5 hours ago #134700 by Tracy Neil
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Thank you Gordon.
It's definitely IR ESA, and they have definitely received my notifications as I wrote the first time on the address sheet they enclose for you to send your sick note in, and I enclosed wage slips. Whwn I had to send in my 2nd sick note I enclosed a separate little letter explaining how anxious the possibiity of overpayment as making me. I've had a standard letter back saying they received the sick note. I guess I ill ave to wait and see.
It's definitely IR ESA, and they have definitely received my notifications as I wrote the first time on the address sheet they enclose for you to send your sick note in, and I enclosed wage slips. Whwn I had to send in my 2nd sick note I enclosed a separate little letter explaining how anxious the possibiity of overpayment as making me. I've had a standard letter back saying they received the sick note. I guess I ill ave to wait and see.
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9 years 11 months ago #134718 by Gordon
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Tracy
One thing that you may want to do is not to spend the extra money you are receiving in case the DWP decide there has been a recoverable overpayment, although you should challenge this should it happen.
Gordon
One thing that you may want to do is not to spend the extra money you are receiving in case the DWP decide there has been a recoverable overpayment, although you should challenge this should it happen.
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