The consultation on plans to replace personal independence payment (PIP) with vouchers or a catalogue ends on 22 July, with Labour so far showing no signs of disowning the proposals.  Benefits and Work is urging readers to have their say before it is too late.

As most readers will be aware, the Conservatives published a Green Paper on the future of PIP in April 2024.  Amongst the proposals were suggestions that instead of regular cash payments, PIP could be replaced with:

  • A catalogue/shop scheme
  • A voucher scheme
  • A receipt based system
  • One-off grants

Labour failed to condemn these proposals in the run-up to the general election and have continued to remain silent since gaining power, even though there is now no risk of them losing votes by speaking out.

According to the Mirror:

“Labour insiders have hinted they'll review the public's response to these proposals after the consultation wraps up on July 22, which falls three weeks post-election.”

Labour have also said nothing about planned changes to the work capability assessment (WCA) from 2025, that would lead to an estimated 424,000 claimants losing over £400 a month.

Ten leading charities, including:

  • Child Poverty Action Group
  • Disability Rights UK
  • Joseph Rowntree Foundation
  • Mind
  • Save the Children

have written to Liz Kendall, secretary of state for work and pensions.  They have asked her to halt the proposed changes to the WCA and to PIP and replace them with plans that are “redesigned with disabled people at the centre.”

So far, there has been no response.

You can find out more about the changes to PIP and how to take part in the consultation here.

UPDATE 11 July

Liz Kendall made a speech in Leeds today in which she said that rising levels of economic inactivity are unacceptable and that immediate action must be taken.  She highlighted the fact that a record 2.8 million people are out of work due to long-term sickness. 

Kendall said that the government would: ".... create more good jobs, make work pay, transform skills, and overhaul jobcentres, alongside action to tackle the root causes of worklessness including poor physical and mental health."

Kendall made no reference to PIP or work capability assessment changes and did not address the issue of the speeded-up timetable for forced migration to universal credit.

More details here.

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    · 4 months ago
    I use my pip payment to pay for taxis and to get me to my part time job I have all my aids in my home to help me I don’t need vouchers at all it sounds like a badly thought out plan
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    · 4 months ago
    I have tried to fill out this awful PIP consultation, I have severe psoriatic arthritis in both hands and wrists and find it hard to type out full sentences as it's extremely painful, I really didn't want to do this at all and wanted to have my own personal say on this, but due to my difficulties and excessive pain I had to copy and paste Work and Benefits responses to the PIP consultation, which I found so much easier to do, but not the most ideal and justified thing to do, obviously it was edited so it came from a single person point of view the answers W&B come up with were excellent and answered some of my own thoughts on this terrible consultation. I feel like I have plagiarised Shakespeare doing this but I wanted to put across that I don't agree with this consultation at all and trust W&B so I hope they don't mind me doing this, I would not have been able to do it an other way. It's took me hours to write this short post out.
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      · 4 months ago
      @Cheeky Check with your council social work department and ask for someone to help you fill in the form. Through several phone calls, they typed my responses onto the form for me then sent it in the post for me to check and sign.  So grateful for their service.
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      · 4 months ago
      @Cheeky You've done what you're able to, and to the best of your ability. And that's the very most that should ever be asked of you.
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    · 4 months ago
    I don't know if it could work but like many more l am terrified that it won't ,I need to pay my bills and worried I won't be able to do so , I am wheelchair bound and rely on the money 
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      · 4 months ago
      @Christine If it's vouchers it wont as every single business from clothing to toiletries, food, transport will have to accept them. It would take them years to achieve as let's face it,their not great with IT. WE will look real good waving a green and yellow ticket in every shop. Its demeaning, a hindrance and zero help. 
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    · 4 months ago
    And also the disabled people and children and any other well people living hand to mouth you've got a heart of stone.
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    · 4 months ago
    I am sorry but I do suffer with mental health and depression and taking people's money away from them and making them into vouchers is not a good idea would you you like to live on vouchers people need that money just like I do to live ( As like you you you've never live on the street's or live in shared housing or been without money most people have been very unfortunate in there and they need money to live so think about what you are doing to us (please)
             Regards 
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    · 4 months ago
    I have disabilaties heart condition and need this to help me live ..  thyriod problem syndrome vcfs . We need to keep them as they are we never asked for disabilaties 
    !!! We should not be discriminated against for it or judged ... Not our fault ...   Keep it as it is . Scrap Tories crap this is the last thing we need right now ...
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    · 4 months ago
    Any Government seeking to take away money from people and the feeling of self worth should not be in power. Disabled people have a enough to worry about. Take away their money how are they going to pay for help taxis the window cleaner the gardener. Some one to take them shopping. That money pays for things you can not pay with a voucher.  If the labour party let this happen they are not any better than the Tories. 
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      · 4 months ago
      @Leslie Their tories dressed in red. So glad I didn't vote for this lot and never will.  Too many on a power trip. They've already made their minds up what their going to do leaving us to fret and wait most probably until November's budget. Disgusting. 
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    · 4 months ago
    Vouchers are a bad idea people are using the money for extra heating better diet travel cost they don't claim it to be be littled they already feel worthless and don't have a good quality of life and there familays always come last in a long line of necessities which put there familay lives under pressure and makes them feel worthless and unvalued carers and unpaid carers we just want to be valued and the person who it affects is the person who needs to be respected has being able to make decisions for them selfs and not being made to look like they are stupid
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    · 4 months ago
    This is madness,don't you think people have enough to deal with on a daily basis without trying to give people useless vouchers and putting people in even more financial difficulty.This government needs to really think carefully about what upset this is going to bring 

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    · 4 months ago
    https://www.parallelparliament.co.uk/debate/2024-03-26/commons/westminster-hall/disability-benefits. Just came across this article on minister for dwp Stephen timms talking about conservative green paper proposal. Mr timm was actually saying it’s bad to change pip cash payments to vouchers so hopefully we give us all a bit of hope to end this disgusting green paper gimmick 
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      · 4 months ago
      @diceman24 diceman24 Thanks for posting the link. Stephen Timms has always appeared a decent man. I think he's oppose vouchers. 
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    · 4 months ago
    I cannot understand how such a scheme can even be suggested in the first place! I have MS and have been suffering with it for nine going on ten years now! Plus Scoliosis which I have had All my life! And even though I am disabled and I definitely do not want any sympathy, I still have bills to pay and as you know Vouchers cannot pay the bills especially as you know as increased! 
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    · 4 months ago
    It's an absolutely stupid idea having to visit clothing shops and supermarkets with vouchers as your payable method You'd feel alienated from everybody else who use cash and cards We are not in world war three just yet People with physical illness can develop a mental illness because they've no money People with mental illness won't be able to go out as normal and could develop physical illnesses through lack of exercise Then people gossip Look at them using vouchers for clothing and food It's an open door to degrade someone more than they might feel already I could go on and on about this new idea to save money but one last point is Why should the most needy suffer for government debt to a prison of vouchers!

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    · 4 months ago
    What rubbish is this? PLEASE KEEP IT CASH. Being declare that you can’t work than to read this none-sense is like WHAT?. Voucher doesn’t even come near to what PIP money does with me for my everyday needs. I can’t even begin to explain how much of help this is every month. I’m pretty much some people are on the same boat as me. We can’t keep up with food rent gas electricity bills due to 
    long terms illness and with the only extra money we all get now you want to change that? NO PLEASE DON’T
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    · 4 months ago
    What none-sense is this? What rubbish is this?. PIP money helps me with a LOT OF THINGS. What am I suppose to do with a voucher? 
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    · 4 months ago
    I agree with others this is ridiculous and giving to stress and struggle to disabled people 
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    · 4 months ago
    I have physical and mental disabilities at least 40 diagnosis physical and mental altogether. I agree with others opinion that for someone like me this voucher idea even making me more ill now because it just won’t work for my needs, impossible. It’s actually extremely worrying to hear this idea still is on. I thought with the new government this will change to back to same as before. There are things and needs cannot be sorted via voucher. If the voucher is the same as the money amount, what do you save by doing this. This is just making disabilities life harder and more stressful. Stress is already cause of almost every illness except the genetics or other outside causes. It’s not fair because this means you don’t believe in and trust disabilities. It’s like an assult to us, to doctors and examiners. Making life harder and unhappier and this is not done to any other people who lives with other benefits, it’s only done to the people who are disabled. The thing I don’t understand the people will use the voucher let’s say if the person is getting 500pounds benefit. What is being saved and protected by doing this. It’s really hurtful and I won’t ever be able to understand why the ideas going backwards like poor country’s treat their disabled people like that. Even the poor countries recently started to pay for their disabled citizens. And a country like UK, trying to make it like not understandable way. It’s just sad. It’s just making you feel like I wish I was healthy like others. Yes, this is probably their aim but some illnesses are not fixable and my every condition is a life long ones , some of them from born, some of them auto immune disease and some connected causes and triggers so I just don’t understand why would you make your citizen regret being disabled, it’s like a threat. So some people go back to work. Then if there is an aim like this, do not smash the ones who didn’t deserve this treat by including all that amount people , just because from every 100 people 10 of them is still ill/disable but workable level. I would never judge anyone as they/some people are not disabled. There are many things in this life can be invisible. You can’t go into people’s body to mark their level of pain and suffer and what went through what they are going through, what they lived. It really shakes my heart and all my body parts into tears. If there is a problem like that government doesn’t believe, I don’t think this should be the way to solve an issue like this by giving stress and suffer to your disabled citizens life. It could of have been solved in many other ways as a solution options. 
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      · 4 months ago
      @Y Don’t worry , I cannot see this happening , it’s too far right , 
      I think it would cause a lot of problems and possible back lash for government. 
      Remember this was a Tory idea . 
      We all get scared , and to be honest this is why o don’t come on here often because it makes my anxiety worse x
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    · 4 months ago
    Can we access the consultation and respond to it? 
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    · 4 months ago
    When there's a new petitions committee, spooled up on UK Petitions, start one to put politicians salary, expenses and allowances paid in vouchers, see how they like it.🤣

    And alert the press, it may encourage the population to get some payback on the ticks, why are politicians ticks? 

    Poly, Greek for many and Ticks are blood sucking parasites.😂

    In the meantime contact your local politicians asking how they'd like what they live on paid in vouchers and tell them there's no such thing economically inactive.

    Why, if you're paid on PIP in cash and spending it on food and fuel, who gets cash?. The company does and the government gets money via VAT, never mind fuel duty!. 
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      · 4 months ago
      @Alex “Well said” where is justice system in UK? 
      Who is ruling on this country, fraudster businessman and politician ripping off vulnerable people and state. 
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    · 4 months ago
    B@$***** The lot of them, I've picked up a spinal injury that causes bouts of paralysis and constant pain, I applied back in February and was meant to get results in April, after being declined because they assessed me based on my best day and totally ignored everything I told them when I was at my worst. My mandatory reconsideration was meant to be concluded by June which was the end of the 8 week period and I'm now being told I have to wait until the 12th of August and now I see why. If it changes to vouchers they're gonna say I'm not inclined to any backpayments as the system has now changed. Thieves the lot of them
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      · 4 months ago
      @Dave Any changes will need to be legislated, debated, and the consultation scrutinised before they happen. With the current crop of laws and changes due, this is likely to take at least a year, and more likely 2 or 3 years. 
      Plus, the government will have charities, doctors, the public outrage, the Lords, amendments because of debate to contend with, and on top of that courts, human rights organisations, and UN bodies all trying to shoot down the idea of vouchers. 

      While it could happen, when you factor in those hurdles, it's very unlikely to happen, or at least happen in its worst form. 

      On top of that, with such a huge majority, there's more scope for political dissent within the party. And with many Labour MPs saying the 2 child cap on child benefit needs scrapping, I'd wager the same would be said about cutting PIP. 
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    · 4 months ago
    I am on pip and I think it's ridiculous expecting  people to use vouchers  will the electric  and gas except vouchers  to pay for these 

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