Shadow work and pensions minister Helen Whately stands accused of telling a massive lie in her efforts to demonise claimants with mental health and neurodevelopmental issues, in her speech to the Conservative party conference today.

Whately told the assembled delegates:

“Millions are getting benefits for anxiety and ADHD, along with a free Motability car.”

In reality, the number of claimants who get the enhanced rate of the mobility component – which gives access to the Motability scheme is:

Mixed anxiety and depressive disorders:  128,164

Anxiety disorders:  20,272

ADHD:  42,596

So, the total number of claimants with anxiety or ADHD who would be eligible for a Motability car, though many will not actually have used their mobility component in this way, is actually 191,032.

So, even if we took Whately’s “millions” to mean two million, that would still be more than ten times the maximum possible number of people with anxiety and ADHD who could have “a free Motability car.”

Will Whately apologise for misleading not just the conference, but also the British public, and deliberately stoking hatred and prejudice against disabled benefits claimants?

We suspect we already know the answer to that question.

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    · 6 days ago
    Might I just add laterley that Helen is a useless MP, she always has been and always will be! She was voted in again and it might a well have been a monkey, she is a Tory! Where there is no sense, there is no feeling! I have lived in Kent 52 years and it has been Tory. We should let them go now and put them in the past, which is where they belong along with the recent useless Reform, they will not make it to the next Election, they just fight all the time!!!! Just like UKIP and Brexit, Nigel is a Moron!!
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    · 11 days ago
    The comment is misleading because she makes it sound like ADHD or anxiety is enough to qualify for higher rate mobility. 
    In reality, those claimants have mobility impairments in addition to their ADHD/anxiety.
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    · 14 days ago
    Hi 
    Sorry if Iin wrong place 
    Not sure where my question should go 

    Does any one know how to speak to a person at citizens advise regarding esa migration to uc 
    Just need to chat reg migration and ask few questions 
    Yet when you ring the number it’s automated bot or something 
    And I need to speak to a person 
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      · 12 days ago
      @Anon
      it depends on the local CAB. Some numbers listed dont work and its getting harder all the time. If you email them a message with your contact details thats usually enough to get them engaged and you can maybe ask for a working direct number then (they might not give you one!). the other option from memory there is a general number and they can fwd you through -it isnt really what the line is for but theyve done that for me in the past.
      good luck.  
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      · 13 days ago
      @Anon You could ask in the local job centre.
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    · 16 days ago
    Motability cars are not Free. The claimant pays for the vehicle with their mobility allowance.
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    · 16 days ago
    Zarah Sultana compares Jeremy Corbyn reunion to Gallagher brothers

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    · 16 days ago
    There's no way there will be dwp at the gp's, no way, aint gonna happen.
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      · 16 days ago
      @keepingitreal They are not just going to have DWP work coaches at GP surgeries to get the longterm ill and disabled into work. They are also going to have DWP work coaches as part of community mental health teams so getting a job is part of getting better and trying to stay well.

      According to the DWP Minister it is providing a hand up not a handout. According to the Health Minister it is just what the doctor ordered. And according to our Prime minister and Chancellor working is good for people's health.

      It is at least for now voluntary.

      I would not be surprised if at some point they link declaring people fit for work and getting people back into work to NHS performance stats and GP bonus payments.

      This along with the review into if mental health conditions and conditions like ADHD are being overdiagnosed. Gives the impression the government is trying to reduce disability benefits by any means. Not just moving the goal posts on eligibility for DWP benefits and reducing the amount people receive in benefits. 
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    · 16 days ago
    People on this forum should not worry too much as most of us are in our 50s and 60s and towards the end of our working lives so will be deemed unemployable.
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      · 12 days ago
      @RookiesUncle speak for yourself
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      · 15 days ago
      @RookiesUncle Was there not something said,I think it was Kendall,when she was shadow work and pensions secretary who raised it, That she wanted plans to get the over 50s into work? Once that little flags raised no matter whose "in charge" the intent is out there. But I do agree as we age the chances of work deminish. Let's face it,who wants us. 
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      · 16 days ago
      @RookiesUncle that's a very selfish outlook! 
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    · 17 days ago
    Well now when you go to your doctors you may be confronted by a job adviser!
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      · 16 days ago
      @John We'll probably have more chance of a dwp appt than a gp appt even if you call at 8am on dot, still no phone appt let alone to actually see the gp so we would be visiting to  see dwp not gp as never available( in person)
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      · 17 days ago
      @Boo oops the top bit of my original reply got edited off. It was:

      Work and pensions secretary Pat McFadden said the move will mean disabled people will be given "a hand up, not a handout" as the government races to get more people employed as it seeks to reduce the benefits bill.

      As I put in my original reply I think it will have the opposite to intended affect. As the DWP employees at the doctors surgeries will also provide benefits advice.  
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      · 17 days ago
      @Boo
       

      In reality I think it will have the opposite effect as the DWP employee at the GP surgery will also advise people on what benefits they maybe eligible for.

      It reminds me of the time years ago when Thatcher was PM and she had the bright idea to have DWP employees go round disabled people's homes uninvited to discus their aspirations towards working, and to check they were getting the right benefits. The idea was to reduce welfare spending. The effect was people being advised they should be on higher benefits or were eligible for benefits they did not know about. The scheme was dropped. As apparently helping people claim what they are entitled to is not a worthwhile thing to be doing. 
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    · 17 days ago
    This is disgusting. Figures completely wrong and a free car is not free at all under PIP. Rather the car is leased by the claimant from their PIP award. 
    Just so typical of politicians to bully the mentally unwell - yet again! What kind of society is this when our MPs are so willing to put the boot into genuinely Unwell people. 
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    · 18 days ago
    It is dehumanizing and it is literally inciting hatred against us. It is beyond discriminatory and I have no idea why it is legally being allowed to carry on.. It's shocking that we have to endure this vile rhetoric on a daily basis. If it was any other vulnerable/minority of people it would be labelled as a hate crime to say these things on a daily basis. This is a never-ending campaign of hate against us, with the sole goal of cutting off our money and leaving us with nothing. 
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    · 18 days ago
    I just do not understand how this government can get away with repeatedly persecuting and demonising disabled people by the government keep stating false information to keep the public beliving  disabled people are liars and scum of the earth and benefit scroungers Our human rights and disabled rights are gone whilst we are all herded onto UC which is totaly another broken system yet as long as the governments main priority of taking back money from the most vulnerable can carry on then the goverment is happy and it will carry on stating lies about disabled people 
    Its a disgrace and is inhumane and we are going backwards to the times when disabled people had no right no voice and was locked away or hidden away 
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    · 18 days ago
    this sounds a hate to disabled people last time the torries tried with pip they lost there case in court she not medicale trained and has no clue how pip works its not filling a form then get paid  face t9o face  they contact the gps have to have all medication hospitale appomennts lot red tape the women out touch should be proscute 
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    · 18 days ago
    Kemi has been on the attack again saying that she will make sure motability cars will go to those who really need them and “those cars are not for people with ADHD” 
    The demonisation of neurodivergent people or those with mental health problems is getting well and truly out of hand. 
    My son has adhd, she has no idea how hard it is to live with. 
    Come and watch my son physical himself when he’s frustrated he’s lost something, done something wrong, watch him in tears begging to be “normal” it’s NO joke!! 
    We need to rise up, fight and stop this! 
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      · 17 days ago
      @Anon N I understand you , as a parent it breaks your heart.
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    · 18 days ago
    Any PIP higher mobility payment Does not need to be used for a Motability car As that may not be the best use for an individuals mobility needs Myself included in that Mental health or not Once again another MP feeding the notion that all those on these benefits are all malingering scroungers Just out for all they can get 
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      · 18 days ago
      @CC I get higher rate PIP mobility but I don't spend the money on a mobility car and don't have anyone local who wants to ferry me about in one. Mine goes towards things I can't do anymore. Things I used to take for granted, hoovering upstairs being one thing, doing downstairs is hard enough now. Pottering round the garden is another. Just a couple of every day things I used to easily do. Never gave stuff like that a second thought. Till I became crippled with arthritis. I'd sooner be pain free and able to walk still than need PIP. 
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    · 19 days ago
    Since when did Helen Whately have an MBBS (Bachelor of Medicine, Bachelor of Surgery) or MBChB in psychiatry? Or when was she ever a qualified mental health nurse, psychiatric nurse? Or specialist nurse, paediatrician, or clinical psychologist? The answer NEVER! Exactly she never has and never will have! So she should just keep her stupid ignorant mouth shut!'
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    · 19 days ago
    Do you think people like her sleep well each night?
    If so then it really is a sad and petty World they live in. I do hope there is a judgement day when this life is over, and I'm there to see the look on her face.
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      · 12 days ago
      @Wayne
      I have often wondered how politicians can choose to lie like that! 
      in my view even if she suddenly grew a conscience she'd be subbed out by someone else. its not the player its the game we are all lost in thats the problem.  Hate the game. We're all in it and we didnt get to choose it! 
      We have a "democracy" led by private interest in the finance sector who just want all public services gone and everyone renting their own water, housing, health services, etc. No social contract left.
      Own a hedgefund? straight into downing street for a cup of tea. Represent millions of disabled people? no chance! 
      Their model has no way of extracting money from the vulnerable or sick. So blame the victims and leave them all destitute and theres more money to grab (bond debt, private nhs contracts etc).
      Surely we need to get a truly deliberative open democratic system in place with full transparency on the money feeding the political elites? Otherwise everything will keep going to ruin while the rich just watch the numbers on the screen going up and up and order more champagne.  Everyone else suffers away from their mansions line of site!  
      At the moment, the media and political class are all about pitting groups to hate each other and completely distract from the inequality (of power and money) thats really the root problem! Its ludicrous to blame voiceless immigrants for all our issues. Its media and politicians who only liaten to money men.  If we all saw the same story and identified the actual root cause, itd be over pretty quick. 
      I hope the greens and yourparty can really tackle this head on. and just like the poll tax if we all say no en masse then the whole system will collapses in short order. 
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      · 18 days ago
      @Wayne
      "Do you think people like her sleep well each night?"

      Yes. They're sociopaths who wouldn't last five minutes if they had to live the lives of those they target. Of course, they're in no danger of ever having to do that because they've never known anything except a life of privilege and the overbearing sense of entitlement that comes with that. In their world, if they fail, they're allowed to fail upwards. The concept of being in real trouble if they screw up - let alone the idea of being in real trouble due to circumstances beyond their control - is incomprehensible to them.
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    · 19 days ago
    Do her comments not break the hate laws? Certainly it's an avenue that should be explored as a route to prosecuting these nasty little people like her.

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      · 18 days ago
      @AgainstPrejudice I don't doubt that no criminal threshold is met by comments like this, but this is why we need a media that actually does its job and calls out politicians when they spout such blatant lies. Unfortunately, as we know, there are some topics on which politicians know they can lie with impunity regardless of the consequences of those lies, safe in the knowledge that most of the media will not call them out - indeed, much of the media will parrot the same lies themselves.
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      · 18 days ago
      @Wayne This is the response I received from the police when I reported her previous Motability misinformation post (quoting a disability hate troll under the name -Max Tempers)👇🏼

      Further to your online report to the police concerning a comment on X from MP Helen Whatley, we have reviewed the content and it does not meet any criminal threshold. This particular post you’ve flagged is political commentary, as part of a wider societal conversation and it’s protected under freedom of expression. It’s not the job of the police to censor debate, but we will act where clear criminal acts have occurred. In this case there isn’t anything criminal made out.
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    · 19 days ago
    Without Prejudice. 

    Motability Vehicles are not free!  Claimants use a proportion (or all) of their DLA/PIP if on any level of mobility supplement to pay for this entitlement. This means that (for some) the proportion of their award is not used for daily living.  Therefore, it is understandable why some disabled individuals DO NOT apply for a Motability Vehicle.  Another Bone of Contention is the cause and affect of leaving the EU.  The Government have free reign to be prejudice in all its forms because UK no longer has the rights of the European Supreme Court whereby the Government may be challenged on their due process and possibly being penalised financially.  
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    · 19 days ago
    There is no excuse for outright lies coming from a politician's mouth on such important matters.
    THERE HAS TO BE a robust response from Advocates, Charities, and those affected by these ridiculous figures being broadcast by the obviously ill-informed.
    And a shadow minister, no less...
    Labour are, it seems, on the same course, along with Reform... 
    For my part, I point out...
    A person suffering from any form of depression is at risk of being pushed over the edge...
    ADHD sufferers usually don't drive at all...
    Attention deficit conditions ruin the studying capability needed to pass tests...
    Anxiety is a real and debilitating condition... One that appears from nowhere, without warning...
    And leaves acute sufferes helpless...
    Politicians need to get real about the huge after effects of covid, because the rise in especially anxiety is marked... I experience it myself, but get PIP for a multi condition life...
    DO NOT ALLOW this to slip under the radar, it's the thin end of the wedge...
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    · 19 days ago
    These so called ministers don’t live in the real world they haven’t a clue how people with mental health issues have to live it’s a total disgrace why can’t they do their research properly before spouting nonsense 
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