Warning: this article includes repeated references to self-harm and suicide

The proposed changes to the PIP scoring system will affect many claimants living with severe mental illness (SMI) and some have already experienced a deterioration in their health, a Benefits and Work survey suggests.

Labour intends to remove the daily living component from claimants who do not score 4 points or higher for at least one activity, when their PIP award is reviewed from November 2026,

DWP disability minister Stephen Timms said that claimants who will lose their PIP daily living have “multiple but low-level functional needs across several activities. These could individually be managed with small interventions or the addition of aids or appliances. This change will focus PIP more on those with the greatest needs. . .”

However, a survey completed by almost 550 Benefits and Work readers who do not score 4 points  has shown that many of those who will lose their award are living with SMI, including bipolar disorder, schizophrenia and personality disorders.

Current distress

The publication of the Green Paper has already caused distress amongst some of this group of claimants.

Shakk66, [no real names were used by participants], aged 43, lives with unstable borderline personality disorder and bipolar disorder. They told us that they “struggle understanding the world and understanding what people mean .I'm vulnerable to abuse because I don't understand what's going in i hear voices in my kitchen and I feel like I'm being spied on all the time . . . i tried volunteering and it sent me off the deep end after being unable to volunteer and hearing about the pip changes i tried to kill myself with tablets and now I've got permanent stomach damage.”

Paul, aged 30-40, lives with bipolar disorder and says “During manic episodes I always end up being hospitalised. I have been trying to get part time work for over 6 months and have not been successful. . . This green paper has caused me extreme anxiety and has prompted suicidal thoughts.”

Dee, aged 43 lives with emotionally unstable personality disorder.  They explained that  “I struggle with going out and being around people (other than my parents) more than once a week without extreme psychological distress. . . My mental health has worsened since the announcement in March and I feel very fearful of the future with little hope and serious thoughts of ending my life.”

Lilly, aged 33, lives with schizophrenia and says they “can not communicate with others due to the extreme paranoia I experience every day.”  They expect to lose £5,000 a year if the cuts go through “This will be catastrophic for me I will loose all sense of independence. My mom is my only carer and as she gets older I’m aware that once she is gone I will be all alone. . . I feel suicidal at the prospect of these changes and my symptoms are worsening. . .”

Future fears

Other claimants living with SMI also fear what the future holds.

Daz, aged 42, lives with schizophrenia. They say “if wasn’t for my carer I would spend all my income in the first three days of receiving it (which is solely from UC and PIP). Prior to my carer helping me 5 years ago I ended up homeless and couch surfing then ended up in hospital after being sectioned. . . My carer will lose her Carer’s Allowance then this will mean she has to get a full time job and no longer be able to care for me. I will no longer be able to afford all my rent, bills and very little food. I will end up losing my home and end up back in mental hospital”

Sweet-Night, aged 32, lives with schizophrenia, depression and anxiety. They told us “Speaking with others is difficult due to my schizophrenia and my relationships with others can become volatile, harmful and unpredictable. I'm also not able to manage the motivation required to care for myself, to maintain my health, hygiene, and appearance. I don't know how i would be able to maintain a job or who would hire me.”

Sheepdog, aged 60 plus, lives with borderline personality disorder. schizophrenia and arthritis.  They say that if they lost their PIP “I would not be able to pay for my careres. . . If I lose my care people. I would struggle to cope by myself.”

Anon, aged 53, lives with bipolar disorder and psychosis.  They say that if the Green Paper cuts happen  “I would have only £100 approx left for going out including bus fares. Clothes etc would need to come out of that too. In other words I would become isolated and my mental health would be at rock bottom.. . I have tried volunteering but still ended up in hospital. I I am disabled and over 50 and know the reality is that younger fitter people are chosen by employers in most cases.”

Kevin, aged 54, lives with bipolar disorder and psychosis. He considers that if the PIP cuts were imposed he would become homeless.  He says that if he had to try moving into work, “With how serious my bipolar disorder, psychosis and extreme anxiety not only Will this effect me mentally and I can become violent when manic or paranoid psychotic I will be a danger to others or myself as I would be suicidal. Physically my condition causes extreme stomach problems to the point of I can’t leave the house for fear of having accidents. I will definitely consider suicide as an option as I would not be able to survive.”

Lack of openness

Approximately 30 people out of the 550 who completed our survey said they lived with SMI but did not score any 4 point or higher descriptors. 

In part, this is because there are fewer opportunities to score 4 points or more for supervision than there are for needing actual help with an activity.  And in part it is because assessments of are often carried out by health professionals with very limited understanding of SMI and so they fail to award the appropriate points.

But our survey is a tiny sample, a fraction of one percent of the total number of PIP claimants.

There are almost 240,000 PIP claimants who live with SMI. It is likely that many thousands of them are at risk of losing their PIP daily living. 

The DWP know precisely how many people with every health condition currently fail to score any 4 point or higher descriptors, but they will not publish that information.

This lack of openness allows Timms to get away with his claim that only those with low-level functional needs face losing their PIP.

It allows Liz Kendall to argue that too many on benefits are taking the mickey whilst ignoring those whose lives depend on PIP.

Rachel Reeves was asked by the treasury committee on 2 April 2025 “Are you quite confident, then, that everybody who ends up dropping out of the [PIP] eligibility criteria has the potential to work and that you will be able to get them into work?”

The same lack of openness meant that instead of answering with honesty, “Of course not” she could get away with “We know that there are hundreds of thousands of people with a disability who want to work, and there are many people with disabilities who already do work.”

What you can do

If, due to being misled, MPs vote in favour of the Green Paper changes it will mean disaster for large numbers of claimants.  From November 2026 until after the next general election at least 10,000 claimants every month will lose their PIP.  This will include many living with SMI.

Please draw the attention of your MP to this issue.  

Ask them to ask the secretary of state for work and pensions to publish a breakdown by health condition detailing how many claimants get the PIP care component without scoring 4 points or higher.

Finally

Amongst the other people living with SMI who completed our survey was a claimant who says that they have scars from self-harm in places they can’t cover up including their hands and face, a claimant who thinks the devil is in their shower water so needs someone to calm them whilst they wash and a claimant who has been detained “many, many” times under section 136 of the mental health act for running in front of cars.

These are all people who will lose their PIP in order to maintain Rachel Reeves fiscal rules.

People living with SMI already have a life expectancy 15-20 years shorter than the general population. So, why take money from individuals with such enormous challenges in their lives, rather than say, millionaires or tax avoiding multinationals?

Maybe you could ask your MP their opinion about that too?

You can read more about how we carried out our survey here

You can search our survey results by keyword, including health conditions and you or your organisation is welcome to carry out your own research using the survey results.

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    · 2 hours ago
    I have emotional unstable personality disorder, Long term Depression, anxiety, OCD..my intrusive thoughts make it difficult to be around people who I don't know for any significant amount of time. I am already on a combination of antidepressants and anti psychotics. I regularly have to go to the toilet because of this and don't like out of the house. These changes are stressing me out big time. I have sent 4 letters to my MP Adam Thompson who just doesn't seem to give a shit. I stand to lose both PIP and ESA Contributions Based because my partner works and I can't claim UC whatsoever. I hate the fact that I voted this Labour government in, hoping for some thing better than the Tories..but all we have now is a bunch of clowns trying to balance the books on the backs of the disabled. It's really beyond my comprehension.
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    · 3 hours ago
    I have SMI's - Borderline/Emotionally ustable personality disorder and an attachment disorder, and am already having more suicidal ideation, I've almost gone numb, kinda shut down, there is no way I can survive, I also have spinal injuries and need back treatments and special foot wear.  I'm in mental and physical pain everyday, yet get 2 points x 5 = 10, so get daily living allowance.  I'm at the point of just not coping with all of this.  The PIP process was hard enough already, as it is not designed for people with SMI's, now it will be impossible. 
    I don't cope well with people, or close relationships, and don't understand peoples intentions, I have been easily manipulated and abused. I'm also neuro-diverse. 
    I've contacted my MP, he's LIb Dem Steve Darling in Torquay, and gave me a really nice response a few weeks later.  So, glad he is on my/our side. 
    I've signed a petition or two. 
    But I find having to talk about it, even on here, really triggering.  I have had one failed suicide attempt already . . . 
    I'm spending most of my time distracting myself.  
    The only good thing is that I've just had my PIP review, and have a new award for four years, so by then hope this will be successfully changed for the better.
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    · 8 hours ago
    When Rachel Reeves was offensively comparing welfare payments to pocket money she said

    "But if they do go and get themselves a Saturday job, they'll probably be better off and they probably might enjoy it as well."

    It's not the patronising comparison or the suggestion of what we might find enjoyable that is most offensive, it's the blithe assertion that "they'll probably be better off as well", which lays bare her ignorance of how deductions from income trap us when we are on means tested benefits. No, Rachel, we probably, in fact, likely, would NOT be better off, and possibly, in fact, probably, would be worse off.

    That the green paper proposals are inhumane is recognised by many, but their sheer unworkability and the negligent lack of diligence in gaining an understanding of how the welfare system operates should be exposed. Reeves and Kendall are simply unqualified to make decisions on this scale and too arrogant to do the hard yards and research the subject.

    And "probably might" is definitely maybe a stupid thing to say.
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      · 4 hours ago
      @robbie Rachel Reeves (when shadow minister for work and pensions) made it clear 10 years ago what she thought of those on benefits. "We don’t want to be seen, and we’re not, the party to represent those who are out of work.” And “Labour are a party of working people, formed for and by working people.” (The Guardian, 17th March 2015)

      Link to the full article (so you can check any for flip-flops): 

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      · 6 hours ago
      @robbie The are all upstart social climbers with no sense of humanity in them whatsoever. All they are interested in is acquiring their gilded pensions and titles and gongs to go into the lords so they can look above the rest of us and feel superior! That is an institution that needs to be elected from learned people in our society not arrogant people anointed by politicians. 
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    · 12 hours ago
    Timms is a disgrace,  He should resign immediately.  Richard Burgon mp should take his place , He is doing a petition on change against the cuts.  Lindsey Hoyle claiming over £6000 of tax payers money on trips abroad and hotels etc. Kendell is evil, when she's questioned she gets angry and accuses disabled people of fraud.
    This has taken a toll on me mentally,  having Autism,  copd, osteoporosis,  fatigue,  joint hypermobility syndrome.   I'm on antidepressants which aren't working due to the worry.  My daughter also has pip for her health problems and she works,  Really feel like giving up, I'm 58 . 
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      · 1 hours ago
      @WorkshyLayabout Correct about Betty, and the Welshman when Wilson/Callaghan were PM
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      · 3 hours ago
      @Tuxcat Since becoming speaker (November 2019), he has spent £324,874 on travel expenses.

      Apparently refuses to fly cattle class; will only flies first class or business class. Doesn't want to mixed with the lowly plebs who are paying for his tickets

      The last speaker with any integrity was Betty Boothroyd. 
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      · 4 hours ago
      @Tuxcat Kendall gets angry because she knows there’s no way she can morally or ethically justify her argument. She then accuses disabled people of fraud because she has nothing else to fall back on. Disgraceful.
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      · 10 hours ago
      @Tuxcat Richard Burgon would never get the chance to replace Timms, he's got too much humanity.The opposite to what the labour government wants. You need to be an uncaring, unfeeling robot. 
      I'm 59 this yr and terrified. 
      I am absolutely beyond worried.
      And not only for myself,but for us all.
      I don't get too many good days, ha! Good days? The ones those without disabilities call Normal days, it's like winning the lotto when I do.
      I do not know where this will all end.
      But it's on m mind 24-7. 

       
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    · 18 hours ago
    "Labour panic as 80 MPs at risk of losing seats at next election over welfare cuts"

    Good for them.

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      · 10 hours ago
      @Scorpion Let them panic, would never match our panic.
      They can go off on holiday and live it up, then reset their panic after a good time. We will just stay here, in the mire and keep panicking because it's all working beautifully for them. 
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    · 22 hours ago
    This is the total government Tax and NICs receipts for April 2024 to February 2025 which was £787.2 billion, which is £25.5 billion higher than the same period last year!  I have put this up here to show just how much the government is lying about the true state of revenues gathered from all of the people. I have not included VAT and corporate taxes or other HM Customs taxes just what is collected from people. 
    The total expenditure by government for the same period is

    Health and Social Care
    181,693
    Education
    81,793
    Home Office
    17,911
    Justice
    10,677
    Law Officers’ Departments
    771
    Defence
    52,797
    Single Intelligence Account
    3,796
    Foreign, Commonwealth and Development Office
    9,308
    DLUHC – Local Government
    11,772
    DLUHC – Housing and Communities
    10,655
    Culture, Media and Sport
    2,269
    Science, Innovation and Technology
    10,620
    Transport
    28,912
    Energy Security and Net Zero
    20,328
    Environment, Food and Rural Affairs
    5,976
    Business and Trade
    1,470
    Work and Pensions
    8,581
    HM Revenue and Customs
    6,407
    HM Treasury
    300
    Cabinet Office
    1,130
    Scotland
    42,028
    Wales
    18,071
    Northern Ireland
    15,631
    Small and Independent Bodies
    2,590
    Budgeting Statistics (Tables 1 to 9)
    Total DEL expenditure (Resource DEL excluding depreciation plus Capital DEL) was £545.5 billion in 2022-23, an increase of £2.9 billion or 0.5 per cent on the previous year in nominal terms in 2023


    787.2 - £545.5 = £241.7

    So the real question people should be asking is where is the surplus being spent on ?

    I have not put in customs and vat and corporate taxes into the revenue.

    People need to get wise to the math and where the money is being spent as it does not look like what is taken from the people is being spent on the people fully!

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    · 1 days ago
    The government cannot be allowed to get away with this. Just how much lower can Kendall, Reeves and Starmer go? This is not the actions of a party which was traditionally formed for the common people. All of this covering up, not revealing the truth just to keep their cronies happy at the expense of very vulnerable people is morally wrong. I shall be emailing my mp and raising the mis leading issue with him. We need a break through to the green paper proposals, something significant to happen in our favour. 
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    · 1 days ago
    Hello everyone. Have any of you read Nickel and Domed? It tells what happened in the States when Clinton cut social security spending in the nineties. I think it may give us a very unpleasant glimpse into the future. If anyone has read the book, can they provide an opinion please.
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      · 10 hours ago
      @James Thanks, will watch. Naomi Klein's book (which is very long!) is available to loan from the RNIB or audible for those who might be put off with approx 500 pages of text.

      Clearly Labour's attack is not so due to financial constraints (whatever they say to the contrary) but ideological.  It's why, with the exception of the GE in 1997, I have never voted Labour.  

      On the fiscal side, it would have helped if furlough had been at 60% of income rather than 80% (incidentally, if you apply for private income protection or sick pay it is only 60% of your monthly salary you will receive) but of course Sunak was thinking politically.  And because of that, and the financial crash of 2008, the State - and by extension us - are paying far too much in interest in relation to Government debt. The era of QE has ended, unfortunately.
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      · 20 hours ago
      @Matt This all has to do with the shock doctrine that was started when Thatcher and Reagan came to power and goes back to the 70s in Chile where it was first implemented by Milton Friedman's Chicago School of Economics. A good documentary that had been produced by Channel 4 can be watched on youtube at 
      We are now being treated the next round by Thatcher's brats 
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    · 1 days ago
    I really do not like that they pushed

    We spent more on benefits than we do on defence.
    Like that's a bad thing? That means your helping the sick and not fighting or participating in war. 

    Not everything is pow pow shoot me.. no that's only directed by government to the most vulnerable. Don't grudge us we're human too even if we're in a lower class than you. Don't patronise us or use us like some string puppets! 

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      · 1 days ago
      @Dylan Tupac expressed the sentiment that "they got money for wars, but can’t feed the poor". When a Reform, a Tory or a Labour candidate knocks at this door I will have very pointed words.
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    · 1 days ago
    Why is this not being squashed at the 1st hurdle .
    Its inhumane ,barbaric  & illegal ,just the same has the Conservatives plans .
    Labour your a disgrace !!!!
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      · 20 hours ago
      @vic The reason it's not being squashed is because both the conservatives and labour came up with this plan as early as March 2024 when the Institute of Fiscal Studies stated in newspaper articles that there was a conspiracy by both parties to hide what they would do after the elections with the budget. There were reports again in June of 2024 of the same thing carried by many news media outlets but for the most part people were not aware of the depths of this collusion by both the parties. They were already planning increases in defence spending and hiding other information from us and the conspiracy of silence was spotted by the IFS and a few other independent bodies and the news came and went quickly while the nation got on with the election fever.

      https://news.sky.com/story/general-election-2024-conspiracy-of-silence-from-tories-and-labour-over-tax-plans-in-manifestos-thinktank-ifs-says-13157900
       
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      · 1 days ago
      @vic Because they have a thumping majority.  Besides, the Tories are for it, too.
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    · 1 days ago
    I think we can all admit that the proposed cuts are affecting us all mentally in some way or other - if they weren't, we wouldn't be spending so much time on here.   At the moment, there's still hope for us going forward, and we still have the chance that things get altered, even in a relatively small way.  What happens to our health once that point is passed is worrying.

    On the plus side, thecanary has published my letter today:

    https://www.thecanary.co/opinion/2025/04/14/dwp-pip-cuts/
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      · 19 hours ago
      @Gingin At bedtime tonight, the original post on Twitter has been seen by 37,300 people and has been reposted 977 times.   A Twitter post from theCanary, linking to my letter on their website, has been seen over 4500 times.  As far as I can see, no MP has reposted or commented on it. 
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      · 19 hours ago
      @Dez My local MP has already seen it.  
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      · 22 hours ago
      @SLB Again, congratulations. All I will say is that - if you haven't already - perhaps it's worth taking the suggestions of some people who responded to your tweet and forward the letter to your local MP as well so that Timms can hopefully have it rammed down his throat some more and can be perhaps be trapped into giving a response?

      I know we have very little doubt that you will be fobbed off with sort of copy and paste answer but you taking the time to write out all of this in defence of the disabled community deserves some form of recognition from these politicians. 
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      · 1 days ago
      @SLB SLB, please keep us updated, it’s one chink of light in a dark space (-:
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      · 1 days ago
      @SLB That's brilliant news SLB, the more people that read your letter the better!
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    · 1 days ago
    I had to go to job centre today because I’m universal credit lcw that’s the interview one the work coach was a lady was very nice says no looking for work only interviews and courses said I have medium autism not severe and not worked for 28 years and also I’m 51 she said doesn’t matter would still be able to get the new pip with the 4 point rule in future so I might go down that route in future when work capability assessment gets closed down in 2028 
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      · 22 hours ago
      @James h @James I have severe epilepsy got ESA but CB based due to savings I lost daily living part of PIP at last assessment 5 years ago, I doubt I will see a job coach due to not qualifying, I am 53 and havn"t worked for 15 years but I am not holding my breath for my future under Labours new rules.  Glad your experience wasn't too bad.
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    · 1 days ago
    I have SMI. Diagnosed me with paranoid skitzophrina and OCD in 2017 in phyc ward. Throughout the years of being mostly in, and out of hospital I did not want to believe this as they're now saying on 2024 I have been misdiagnosed. What hurts the most is having the Drs tell me and my family that if I don't believe in the diagnosis then I'm the problem. Turns out I have autism and ADHD. In 10years of trying anti depression tablets and anti phycotic. I can safely say the ADHD medication is the only meds that actually helped me.(When in phycosis thats the only time anti phycosis medication worked) Other than that getting the depot is still a let down due to side effects .Its a struggle to get to know how the brain and body works, when the doctors themselves are always learning. I myself would like to work however the prospects of that does not seem plausible I am unstable and still healing. I feel alone and not connected with society. I am vulnerable and I hate to admit that. However being vulnerable and not seeing what others see or hear has made me put trust in the wrong people and has landed me in situations I wish I could learn more.

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    · 1 days ago
    I use aids because I have had three heart attacks and am now diabetic and literally on many medications some of which are pain killers, and others for heart, diabetes and I am disabled due to a child hood accident. All of these have contributed to my becoming severely depressed and every day is a a challenge to just get up and live. I need help getting my laundry sorted, help with cooking as it is not safe, and help with bathing which I manage once a week with help getting in and out of a shower. There are incontinence issues as well as bowel issues due to the many medications I am on and yet the powers that be think of me as being able to work. It was my incontinence that got me fired from my last job even after the heart attacks which I tried in order to keep up payments with my mortgage for my home which I eventually lost because I was no longer able to work. My doctor advised me to stop trying or else I would be dead so how do medically unqualified politicians decide I am fit.

    35% of my heart is in fact dead, and I have sluggish blood flow and end up having to manage pain plus drowsiness due to medications and diabetes and being out of breath and my HDL levels are low so they increase my chances of a 4th heart attack from which I may never recover.

    I find it very insulting and patronising to say the least that at my age of 64 with heart disease and an out of control blood sugar levels as well as the danger of a heart attack as I have issues with my HDL Cholesterol (The cholesterol that protects from heart attacks) and beta blockers when my heart risk scores are off the charts. What is wrong with this crowd of politicians who say they care on one hand and then shaft us on the other ? Where are there moral compass ? What makes them such experts ? 
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    · 1 days ago
    Again surely there will be some sort of legal action against the legislation Labour intends to bring to the vote aka the Cuts and the PIP 4 points. 

    Labour do not want to consult on the cuts but they want to consult on the Green Paper which obviously will face legal action and so the Green Paper will get watered down but the initial cuts will still take place leaving people on LCWRA/PIP losing both and finding themselves on the just the standard rate of UC, will LCW exist after the Work Capability Assessment gets abolished?

    This is NOT about helping disabled people find work, it is about cutting money, that is all because if it was about helping disabled people find work they wouldn't be scaling back access to work would they?
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    · 1 days ago

    Scathing, at least some have morals and principles they stand by.  Some see and are spelling out the truth about this Labour party!

    Good on you Mish!!!
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    · 1 days ago
    This is a devastating article, although we do have a more positive one this morning in the Guardian as KeepingitReal  has already posted. 

    For those keeping up to date with my letter to Stephen Timms, it has now had over 27,000 views on X, and close to 900 reposts in less than 24 hours!  TheCanary are planning to publish it on their site, too.   No reply from the govt, of course.

    Apologies to those who sought out my intended "catch all" disabled news account on X for being so quiet, but things with the letter kind of sapped my time.

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    · 1 days ago
    Not to mention those on lcwra who haven't claimed pip who have what some people keep referring to as the 'less serious mental illnesses' like major depressive disorder and general anxiety disorder. I know this has sent me spiralling. I'm also now regularly self harming and had a psychiatrist increase my multiple medications. If this goes through I know I won't cope, I've tried volunteering one afternoon a week and I was getting so stressed out I stopped eating it was awful. 
    This whole thing has set me back years
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    · 1 days ago
    Thank you Benefits and Work team.
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    · 1 days ago
    Thank you

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