Benefits and Work and Inclusion London have obtained counsel’s advice on possible challenges to the Pathways To Work Green Paper proposals. 

The advice suggests that at this stage there appears to be no clear or obvious route for challenge or ‘silver bullet’ regarding the ‘flagship’ elements of the policy.  Instead, individuals and organisations should focus efforts on challenging elements of the Green Paper politically as much as possible.

Benefits and Work and Inclusion London asked solicitors Leigh Day to obtain advice from counsel about the potential legal challenges to the March 2025 welfare reform proposals.  Leigh Day appointed barrister Tom Royston of Garden Court North Chambers to undertake the work.

Both Leigh Day and Tom Royston have a great deal of experience in social security law and we are grateful to them for the very detailed advice they have provided.

The advice addressed the following proposals in the Green Paper:

(I) ‘Focussing PIP more on those with higher needs’: the proposal to require at least one 4 point descriptor to be met to qualify for PIP;

(II) ‘Scrap the WCA’: the proposal to amend the process by which ill and disabled people can claim income replacement benefit, and the amount of money they receive;

(III) ‘New unemployment insurance’: the proposal to amalgamate contributory ESA and JSA into a single time limited contributory benefit;

(IV) ‘Delaying access to the UC health element until age 22’: not paying 18-21 PIP recipients any extra means tested element in UC.

Looking in summary at the above proposals, counsel told us that substantial challenges to central aspects of the envisaged legislation would ‘be likely to fall at various places along a spectrum from ‘hopeless’ to ‘challenging’.”

In other words, given the information currently available, the chances of preventing the proposals being made law or overturning them subsequently appear to be limited.

In relation specifically to PIP, a range of issues were considered, including - but not limited to -the decision not to consult on this measure, challenges under the Human Rights Act 1998 and challenges under the Equality Act 2010.  But the probability of any challenge succeeding in relation to the PIP 4-point rule specifically was considered to be low and heavily dependent on circumstances.

Counsel did stress, however, that there may well be successful legal challenges in the future to elements of the above proposals, but these are likely to be to “contingent aspects of the proposals which emerge along the way, rather than to the elementary principles which were clear at the start.”

In other words, if the laws are enacted, then the courts may have a major role to play in examining the way they are interpreted and implemented but not in upsetting the basic foundations, such as the PIP 4-point rule. Benefits and Work will aim to support any such challenges in any way it can.

We are not able to publish the advice at present and we should add that it applies only to the four issues listed.  The Green Paper contains many more proposals that were not covered.

In addition, we did not ask for advice on whether the current Green Paper consultation is lawful, because our initial enquiries are primarily about proposals which are not being consulted on.

We know that this news will be greeted with considerable dismay by many readers, who had hoped that the courts could prevent such clearly cruel and discriminatory proposals coming into force.

Sadly, there seems unlikely to be ‘silver bullet’ or straightforward legal answer.

Instead, by far the best hope of preventing these cuts is to persuade MPs to pledge to vote against them, as evidence grows that the Labour Party is struggling to contain a rebellion.

As one Labour MP, Neil Duncan-Jordan, who won his seat with a majority of just 18 votes but who has 5,000 constituents receiving PIP, told the Guardian  “The whole policy is wrong. It goes without saying that if these benefits cuts go through, I will be toast in this seat.”

More facts about the effects of the cuts are being uncovered with each passing week. 

Making MPs, especially those with slim majorities, aware of how dramatically the cuts will affect claimant’s lives provides the best hope that they will never come to pass.

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    · 26 minutes ago
    I assume Public Law Project and Bhatt Murphy are still examining the possibility of taking legal action?
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    · 2 hours ago
    Please never ever vote for this corrupt government!!!!
    Who made promises asked people for the vote:) then done all this they have kicked us down, and don’t care, they don’t live in the real world 
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    · 2 hours ago
    As I stated from the beginning the ONLY way for this to be challenged is at the green paper stage. 

    The ONLY hope is for sufficient back bench revolt and I DID and HAVE always said sufficient public outcry but in order to hear public outcry you have to be humane. Starmer and co are NOT humane. 

    I agree with the post that was written by another member (UNABLE to remember exactly who) Some of the green paper proposals were already going on toward the end of the Torie reign. 

    Thanks to Works and Benefits site and the advice from Counsel that they have sought we NOW all KNOW what we are up against. In particular moving forward with this 4 point rule where it appears they seldom give you the full points under any descriptor/activity. Those who have the strength are going to have to go to mandatory consideration and beyond.. However, that WILL ultimately clog up the court system. 

    The disabled community that should have been consulted over this 4 point rule were NOT. 

    However, ALL on this site NEED TO WAKE UP and realize that consultations have been taking place behind our backs for a considerable amount of time.

    Such as:


    THERE HAS BEEN A SHIFT IN ATTITUDE BREWING FOR A COUPLE OF YEARS OVER CERTAIN DISABILITIES AND MENTAL HEALTH EVEN AT PRIMARY CARE I AM SURPRISED THAT NO ONE ELSE HAS NOTICED THIS.

    WHERE DO YOU THINK SOME OF THE STATISTICS THAT STARMER AND CO ARE SHOUTING ABOUT HAVE COME FROM?

    2)  Roll out of migration from Income related ESA to UC was SUPPOSED to have slowly been phased out  allowing until 2028, NOW it is by March 2026! Fears that the DWP system will NOT ensure that the transitions run smoothly between being in the support group and being correctly placed in the equivalent LCWRA group on UC. Then claimants are also FACED with having to provide sick notes from their GP when it SHOULD NOT BE SO as their status on ESA should automatically transfer across to UC. in addition to other claimants MISTAKENLY being put in the working group. When in the Support Group on ESA.

    I am currently going through this process at the moment. THANK GOD for the CAB in my case.

    There are also other members on this site that are being put through the migration process also at this present time and so will a lot more be. IT IS IN A MESS and ERRORS are being made as 66,000 letters a month are being sent out at the moment. So that Starmer and co.. can make the 2026 deadline!

    THE HARM HAS ALREADY STARTED!

    Business Decisions overriding Clinical Decisions. Primary Care Services may perceive that these changes will lessen their work-loads but WAIT until those of us who are chronically long-term sick and disabled are pushed to the brink physically and mentally and THEN they will be called on more than any amount of the sick notes that for some claimants they have thus far had to write. 

    They are going on about work coaches but so many have left the profession! THAT IS A FACT. 

    There are NOT jobs for the able-bodied let alone those with disabilities and ill-health that ALL employers would have to make reasonable adjustments for and the insurance that would be higher.

    Just last week I read that the Government OWE millions to small businesses that made reasonable adjustments to employ the disabled.

    THIS NEWS DOES NOT COME AS A SHOCK TO ME! AS I STATED WEEKS AGO, THE ONLY HOPE WAS FOR SUFFICIENT BACK BENCH REVOLT AND PUBLIC OUTCRY. 

    I DO THINK THAT AS TIME GOES ON THAT IF IT IS MADE LAW THAT THERE WILL BE MANY,MANY LEGAL CHALLENGES ALONG THE WAY AS HEALTH AND SAFETY ISSUES WILL NOT BE IN PLACE AS THEY SHOULD BE.

    I HOPE ALL THOSE AGENCIES AND DISABILITY CHARITIES THAT SUPPORTED LABOUR WITH THEIR BEHIND OUR BACK CONSULTATIONS WHO MAY OR MAY NOT NOW BE THINKING IT HAS NOW GONE FAR TOO FAR, ARE READY FOR THE FALL-OUT OF WHAT IS GOING TO BE ONE TRAGEDY AFTER ANOTHER AS A RESULT OF THIS. THEY WILL HOWEVER, NOT HAVE LESS OF A WORK LOAD BUT EVEN MORE OF A WORK LOAD AS PEOPLE ARE NOT GOING TO MIRACULOUSLY GET BETTER. INDEED THIS IS GOING TO EXACERBATE THE SICK AND DISABLED HEALTH CONDITIONS. 

    JUST KEEP ON AT YOUR LOCAL MP'S COUNCILS AND YES FOLKS, EVEN YOUR PRIMARY CARE GP SERVICES, SOCIAL WORKERS, LET THEM ALL KNOW THAT THEY ARE NOT GOING TO BE LESS BUSY BUT INDEED ARE GOING TO BE OVER WORKED AS THERE ARE GOING TO BE MANY MANY CASUALTIES OF THIS! 

    AGENCY CARE WORKERS WHO HAVE NOW YET TO REALIZE THAT IF THE PROPOSALS GO AHEAD THEY ARE NOT GOING TO HAVE A JOB! THOSE WHO HAVE NOT ENTERED INTO THE PROFESSION BECAUSE THEY CARE BUT INDEED HAVE ABUSED CLIENTS. WHO HAVE COMMENTED IN IGNORANCE TO CLIENTS ABOUT THE PROPOSALS FRIGHTENING PEOPLE.

    THEY HAVE ALL HAD A LOT TO SAY ABOUT US THE DISABLED, LONG TERM SICK BEHIND OUR BACKS WITH THEIR CONSULTATIONS THAT ONLY A FEW IN SOCIETY WERE PICKING UP ON. OVER THE LAST 18 MONTHS OR THEREABOUTS.
     






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    · 2 hours ago
    I’m a single mum to a 4 year old. I’m largely housebound, very often bedbound with M.E. Rely on carer’s support for cooking, cleaning, caring for my child, shopping, lifts to appointments etc. Obviously desperate to be well enough to work but just getting to the loo and back some days uses all the energy I have. Simply cannot work more than a few hours per week max during better periods of health. 
    The changes will knock £6k off my annual income and leave me with less that £10k per year total income (inc. child maintenance and child benefit). I cannot survive on this. My bills are all going up. Can’t eat, heat, care for my child etc etc. Utterly terrified. 
    Even if this talked about extra support to ‘tackle child poverty’ goes through with payments for parents of children under 5, this doesn’t include me. I will be in ‘absolute poverty’ and I don’t know what further sanctions will be placed on me when I still can’t work. 
    I’m completely shocked that this doesn’t constitute a legal case. 

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    · 3 hours ago
    Thank you B@W for this update. I still have hope the right legal case with be enough to get it into Court.
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    · 3 hours ago
    This Nightmare never ends 😫 
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    · 4 hours ago
    I still think they should have just reduced the UC health element and PIP by 25% across the board. This ALL OR NOTHING system they’ve used is fine for the ones who get the all, but, catastrophic and unliveable for the nothings?! With a minor cut at least we’d be able to tighten our belts or maybe use some savings to manage our daily living expenditures. I personally won’t be able to live on the double cut I,ve got coming. The govt would have got the money they needed and people like me could at least survive with a bit of wiggle room rather than an unsurmountable financial challenge that scares the h”’l out of me. 
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      · 2 hours ago
      @Hightower Hi Hightower

      YES I agree with you and I GENUINELY do NOT know whether I scored 4 points on one of the descriptors/activities there were certain claimants that NEVER did get the breakdown as SCOPE has realized in recent weeks. I was one of them that DID NOT receive the breakdown of the points.

      When the Tories made the cuts about 8 to 10 years ago, thereabouts, they FROZE the amount of benefits for a number of years. Which was NOT good, BUT at least disabled and sick knew that we were still getting a certain amount to live on a week/month knowing that we were NOT going to see a rise in our benefits along with annual inflation. NOT GOOD but at least we were aware. 

      I AM SCARED TOO! 

      It is NOT as if we are going to miraculously get better we have permanent severe disabilities and ill - health. 


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    · 4 hours ago
    This is such a blow but there are still other options, like the encouraging news we heard yesterday from benefits and work. There are more and more labour Mp's becoming unhappy with the proposals and are realizing that their seats are in jeopardy. Hopefully there will be enough of them and Mp's from the other parties to kick this green paper into orbit. 
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    · 4 hours ago
    The Green Paper will be challenged and Labour's "half way house" will be to leave people who will lose the standard rate of PIP and LCWRA on the standard rate of Universal Credit in which the LCW criteria sits upon. None of these cuts and changes and legislations was dreamt up in one day, this has been thought of for a long while even going back to the former Conservative government.

    This is not about getting people into work, it's about cutting money from the most vulnerable. The foot cannot be allowed off of the pedal, you truly cannot let these people send the lives of disabled people further into destitution. Labour's plans must be challenged in every way it can.
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      · 2 hours ago
      @Dave Dee That's not a halfway house.  It's a loss of £700+ a month.
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      · 4 hours ago
      @Dave Dee So essentially, if you work and get PIP standard living, you're screwed 
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      · 4 hours ago
      @Dave Dee It looks very like as regards to the Pip 4 points issue that they worked out from there stored data that few people get 4 points for one activity and that the scope for upgrading to 4 points in future is reasonably remote and so this was the golden opportunity for the change. It is absolutely fear-inducing for those who might get reviewed from their current entitlement once these changes have come into plate if they do and incredibly demoralising to think of the future implications for new claimants who would have been so much better off at least to a tolerable extent comparatively had these changes not come about.   What is equally worrying is what has not yet been contrived or announced as regards the next attack on the welfare state because that can't be ruled out given the rhetoric and the brutal way this is being done for example before an impact assessment has been properly worked through and instead the plan is to have this voted on beforehand.  That shows real ruthlessness and everybody should say what they can to convince their elected representatives
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    · 4 hours ago
    Not good, but it just reinforces the need to keep up the pressure on MPs to oppose these cuts - abstaining would be essentially voting for them and is nowhere near good enough.

    The only way to win a fight this is to make the political price of persisting with this policy too high. That's what happened with the Poll Tax - it was passed, it came into force, but eventually it was scrapped because it was so unpopular. 

    This needs to be made Labour's Poll Tax. That won't be easy because the Poll Tax affected everyone whereas these cuts don't.  Nevertheless, when you include the friends and family of those affected that still adds up to a significant chunk of the population, and even those who don't think these cuts will ever affect them need to be reminded that they're never more than a single life-changing illness or accident away from needing the benefits system themselves. In any case, the cynical weaponising of trans people as culture war fodder by the right shows how an issue doesn't have to affect all that many people at all in order to get political traction. Labour really needs to be brought to the point of concluding that it's just not worth paying the political price of persisting with these cuts.

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      · 4 hours ago
      @tintack I agree. Disabled people need to get more political and act together so no party can afford to ignore us. Pointing it this could end Labour's rein might be the strongest argument
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    · 5 hours ago
    I'll try again as something went wrong last time.   Thanks for the information about the legal situation, but there's probably not much we didn't know already in this regard.  That doesn't mean we should give up:  

    1.) I notice there's been several local newspaper stories on the subject of the cuts recently, with local MPs and councillors speaking out against them.   
    2.)There are still the council elections to protest with.  If the Labour vote share plummets, it will help show how much the public is aganist these benefit cuts.  
    3.)That, in turn, would give the rebel MPs something to fight their cause with.  If they can get the vote put back to the autumn when the full impact assessment becomes available, it could be a significant win for us,and might ultimately force Labour's hand to water down their proposals.  Don't get me wrong changes are coming, wthether we like it or not, what we need to try to ensure is that they are watered down - but how the govt backtracks without embarrassment, I have no idea. 

    Whatever does get watered down (if anything) isn't going to please everyone, that's for sure, but I don't think its beyond the realms of possibility that there will be a third tier of daily living (which might or might not be a gateway to health UC), or that mobility PIP could be a gateway to UC.   The govt could agree to both of those things without it looking like it's doing a U-turn. 

    One other thing: is there anyone on the board involved in the virtual meetings for the consultation?  Or who has taken part in that way before?

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      · 59 minutes ago
      @SLB
      "or that mobility PIP could be a gateway to UC"

      LCWRA needs to stay independent of PIP. That's the only UC-related concession that's worth anything.

      Although it's hard to see them scrapping the pledge to get rid of the WCA, they're also saying that those who can't work will get a new UC premium. But that means there will have to be a mechanism somewhere in the system for determining who can't work - in other words, an incapacity for work test. Once the WCA goes there will be no such test, so if anyone is going to get the new UC premium for those who can't work there will have to be a new incapacity for work test - so the WCA will probably survive in some form but with a different name. They really don't seem to have thought this through at all.
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    · 5 hours ago
    How about the whole thing-

    The green paper purports to be about getting people back to work. How can this apply to pensioners who would lose pip, pension credit, winter fuel allowance, at least some housing benefit and would have to pay private rents in excess of the local housing allowance out of their state pension, which would be their only remaining income?

    People in that scenario could be left with less than the personal allowance to live on, set by the government. Surely there's a legal challenge to that?
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      · 4 hours ago
      @godgivemestrength How can this apply to the sick and disabled of working age who will lose PIP, LCWRA and housing benefits and have to pay for everything out of the basis rate of Universal Credit, which would be their only remaining income - if they are even entitled to it? 

      Pensioners losing PIP can claim attendance allowance.
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    · 5 hours ago
    I posted this but it was cut:

    The green paper purports to be about getting people back to work. How can this apply to pensioners who would lose pip, pension credit, winter fuel allowance, at least some housing benefit and would have to pay private rents in excess of the local housing allowance out of their state pension, which would be their only remaining income? 

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    · 5 hours ago
    thanks for that good news(not)
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    · 5 hours ago
    The green paper purports to be about getting people back to work. How can this apply to state pensioners 
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      · 5 hours ago
      @godgivemestrength It is also non applicable to many of working age who are too sick and disabled to work. 

      The green paper's aim is solely to remove our benefits. 
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    · 6 hours ago
    Thank you B&W for your legal information with regards the current green paper. We must keep our activities to the green paper and concentrate on the MPs and other bodies like the charities to keep the political pressure up both within and outside the labour party and will have to report the tragic impact these policies will have on people both before and after the law is enacted which will not happen until the bill goes through the 3rd reading and then is announced during the King's speech as well as when the law will take affect. 
    I personally believe that allowing labour members and mps to try and remove Starmer from his leadership of the party is the best way forward and our efforts should go into supporting those within the labour party who will stand up for us. We have to wait to see what the final bill and act will be before we can mount challenges and for now until June concentrate on the green paper and winning more support of the labour left mps
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    · 7 hours ago
    Don't give up the fight, friends. My heart sank reading this too, but we mustn't give up. 
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    · 7 hours ago
    Thanks for t
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    · 7 hours ago
    Grim.  I think, ultimately, press coverage of extreme poverty (and suicides) will be the only way to shift public opinion, although i have my doubts that this would be reflected in the ballot box. To coin Boris Johnson - whataboutme will the over-riding opinion come the next GE.

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