With the Department for Work and Pensions (DWP) currently pressing ahead with the issuing of around 83,000 migration notices per month asking income-related Employment and Support Allowance (ir-ESA)claimants to move to Universal Credit (UC), we’re taking a look at how the process is going. 

On the whole, the majority of people who received a migration notice to move from ir-ESA to UC seem to be finding their claim is going through smoothly.  If you’ve used our Managed Migration guide, you may have come up against some of the pitfalls we highlighted, but we’ve had reports from members that they’ve been able to use the information within it to challenge errors by the DWP. 

There are some issues that seem to be coming up for quite a few claimants, so we want to highlight the most common of these:

Work-related activity or support component not transferring to UC

 The component that you currently have within your ESA claim should transfer automatically to UC without any need to submit fit notes or go through a work capability assessment.  If you have the work-related activity component, this automatically becomes the Limited Capability for Work (LCW) element of UC, and the support component becomes the Limited Capability for Work and Work-Related Activity (LCWRA) element.

Whilst the DWP seem to have ironed out earlier issues where people migrating from ir-ESA were being asked to supply fit notes, many claimants have reported the LCW or LCWRA element being missing from their first UC payment. 

The underlying problem is a special form called an MGP1 that is completed by the DWP to confirm the claimant has an existing award of the work-related activity or support component that needs to be transferred to UC.  This form has to be verified by the DWP’s Move to UC team but delays in this happening, almost certainly due to the huge numbers of claims now being processed, mean that some claimants are finding the LCW or LCWRA element isn’t included in their first payment when it should be.

If this happens to you, request a mandatory reconsideration of the decision using your journal (or via the UC helpline if you have a telephone claim).  You can also make an online complaint to Universal Credit here: https://makeacomplaint.dwp.gov.uk/

Mysteriously appearing ‘New-Style’ ESA

 In the old system, there were two types of ESA: contribution-based (based on your personal national insurance contributions) and income-related (which contained premiums for special situations and was paid as a couple if you have a partner).  Only the income-related type of ESA is moving to UC.

Some people had ‘mixed’ ESA awards where they received contribution-based ESA with a ‘top-up’ of income-related ESA.  Not all claimants were aware that their award was partly made up of contribution-based ESA, so this has come as a surprise when they have moved to UC.  Contribution-based ESA automatically morphs into ‘New-Style’ ESA, which is deducted £ for £ from your UC award. 

If you are one of the people whose ESA was made up in this way, you might get payments of New-Style ESA that you weren’t expecting during the migration process and then a lower amount of UC that you thought you would (although your overall amount of benefit should be the same).

If you are unsure whether your first month’s payment of UC is correct, you can contact Citizen Advice’s Help to Claim Service (or your local advice centre) for help.

ir-ESA continues for longer than it should

When you make your claim for UC, your ESA should continue for two weeks and then stop.  This money should not affect your UC.  But some claimants have been reporting that they have received their ir-ESA for longer than these two weeks.  If this happens, the extra ir-ESA does count as income for your UC and can be deducted from your first payment.  You might spot this because it will appear as a deduction in the breakdown of your UC payment. But it can’t also be claimed back from you by ESA.  

If UC aren’t aware you have continued to receive extra ir-ESA during your first month on UC, they may not deduct it.  When they correct this later, you will have been overpaid UC in your first assessment period and that will unfortunately be recoverable from your future payments.  You can, however, negotiate the rate of repayment by contacting DWP Debt Management. 

Don’t despair!

Although we have highlighted three key problems that are arising, these are only happening for some claimants and the vast majority of people seem to be having few issues with their move.  For a more detailed guide to the migration process, do have a look at the ESA to UC Managed Migration Guide in our members’ area

And if your experience has been different, please do share in the comments section below.

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    · 4 days ago
    Update to my previous post:
    I have looked at my bank statement after finding myself short this month, following my 'managed' migration from ir-ESA to this new-style ESA + Universal Credit top-up 6 weeks ago.
    So much for Transitional Protection!!

    I am short by £44.44pw, £177.76pm!!!

    I tried ringing the UC helpline today, as I couldn't make sense of my Journal info - payments, deductions etc are NOT itemised as they used to be with ir-ESA letters. Also I struggle with new technology, I can do the basics but computers scare me!

    1st call attempt - after 4 minutes, whilst I was speaking to Agent 1, the call suddenly changed to "this office is now closed & this call will end"

    2nd call attempt - after 8 minutes, whilst speaking to Agent 2, call suddenly disconnected. 

    3rd call attempt - finally managed to complete a full call with Agent 3.

    Basically she said that "if I wasn't happy" then I should raise it on my Journal. BUT I couldn't upload a copy of my last ir-ESA letter to my Journal, even though this details all of my previous payment breakdown eg severe disability premium etc.

    I will try to put everything in my Journal, write down everything from my last ir-ESA letter each line one by one, but this was supposed to be an easy transition with no stress!!!!!

    Agent 3 seemed to be of the opinion that my deductions must be correct, because it says so, but to speak with the advisor who is ringing for my "ESA commitments" next week. I thought that this was just for the New-Style ESA commitments, not UC discrepancies, but obviously I'm wrong. 

    I am battling with my GP's surgery at the same time, cannot get to see (or even speak to) an actual doctor with my urgent concerns for a large abdominal wall swelling, so I can't cope with all this extra UC transitional protection worry on top...where has the care for us gone? Are the over-60s (& other computer newbies) consigned to the scrapheap?












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      · 3 days ago
      @LilaKitten Hi Kitty Kat I have just had major problems too!  


      IT APPEARS THAT IT DOES NOT MATTER WHETHER YOU MAKE THE 3 WAY CALL WITH CAB FOR MANAGED MIGRATION OR IF YOU DO IT ON LINE DEPENDANT ON OUR INDIVIDUAL CIRCUMSTANCES IF THERE IS AN ELEMENT OF NEW STYLE ESA ATTACHED TO THE MIGRATION TO UC THEY ARE REALLY CAUSING US A HEAP OF HARM, ALARM DISTRESS CONFUSION AND TOTALLY FURTHER EXACERBATING OUR PHYSICAL HEALTH AND MENTAL HEALTH.

      UNFORTUNATELY, IT APPEARS THAT YOUR DOCTORS ARE OF LITTLE SUPPORT AS ARE MINE! WHICH MEANS THEY DO NOT WANT TO HEAR ABOUT IT AND THE GP PRACTICE WHERE I LIVE IS VERY MUCH FOR THESE CUTS BASICALLY BEEN TOLD THAT LONG TERM CHRONIC DISABLED BURDEN ON SOCIETY. I DARED TO STAND UP TO MINE AND INDEED THE ABUSE FROM THEM TO ME WORSENED!

      The problem is the Government wants everyone migrated across by end of this year when it should have been spread out until 2028 when the Tories started to migrate people across! This Government ramped it up and indeed the goal posts have, it appears, ramped up with it! 

      I am in a total state of despair with it.

      READ JOHN'S POST BELOW AS IF YOUR MONEY IS SHOWING AS JSA ON YOUR STATEMENTS THEN THE REASON/EXPLANATION JOHN GIVES FOR THIS MAY CLARIFY WHAT IS HAPPENING. AS THIS IS HOW THE JOB CENTRE, EXPLAINED IT TO ME, ALBEIT NOT AS ELOQUENTLY AS JOHN HAS SIMPLIFIED IT BELOW.

      IN A NUTSHELL THE SYSTEMS WERE NOT UPDATED AS QUICK AS THE SENDING OUT OF THE MIGRATION NOTICES WERE AS SUCH PAYMENTS ARE SHOWING AS JSA WHEN THAT IS NOT WHAT THEY ARE! 

      I did the 3 way managed migration via 3 way telephone with CAB last week! I was told that I was entitled to telephone biographical check, of ID this site said so as did CAB and that the Job Centre were WRONG when they demanded I go in I am in the Support Group both for physical and mobility it took 2 people to get me into the job centre. Just to prove my ID (have NO passport)

      Now moderator on the site does NOT know after informing me that they can do a biographical ID!

      I am being phoned in the next 2 weeks for it to be allegedly explained to me that I am moving over from ESA to UC but with still an element of new style ESA. Therefore, I wonder if that is what they are getting at with you? 

      Then she stated that although I was on Income related ESA due to previous tax contributions that I was migrating with cb ESA  element attached with top up of UC! With this £1 for £1 malarkey GOD knows what they mean.

      Even though I was on Income Related ESA when the migration started apparently it is to do with historic class 1 contributions. 

      Telling me that cb ESA will continue every 2 weeks (or new style ESA) and that the rest will be topped up with UC same date every month which in my case will be 19 of every month. £1 for £1 malarkey!

      Therefore, it appears that they are messing this totally up on their calculations when it amounts to people like you and me with this migration process.

      I am DUE my last income related payment next week! before the 1st payment of UC with the top up of the new style ESA.

      You NEED to read John's posts below pertaining to this as first payments are showing in cases where there is the CB esa (new style esa) 
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    · 5 days ago
    Just had the dreaded brown envelope through the letterbox to migrate my son over to UC.
    It's been on my mind for months, I think I'll start filling it in after Wednesday when an ESA payment is due.
    I'll let you know if I encounter any problems.
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    · 5 days ago
    I've made a real cockup with my migration before I've even started to fill it out. I didn't realise that money was still going from my current account into a savings account, my memory these days is poor and I thought I had stopped it last year. I have now cancelled any payments over to it but it puts me way over the 6k. I can't believe I missed it and didn't see the monthly payments were still being made. It will show up on the 3 months statements you are suppose to give. So I could lose my benefits and may have to pay back any benefits too, those savings would be wasted. I'll be left without anything. A complete disaster is looming that has me very depressed indeed. I can't eat with worry. I don't know what to do. 
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      · 3 days ago
      @MJ MJ I have seen the request for statements pop up on the forum a few times, I think it was suggested that if you declare funds over the 6k limit they ask for statements. I have no first hand experience yet as still awaiting the migration notice. Just remember you made an error with not informing them, an oversight, you have not comitted fraud. DWP are the real culprits when it comes to making errors especially currently with this migration.
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      · 3 days ago
      @Gaddy Thank you for your kind knowledgeable reply. I don't know if they always ask for 3 months statements, I don't have paper statements anyway. Not sure how it was for others on here. 
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      · 5 days ago
      @MJ MJ, I would post on the main forum about this, I have seen similar posts and David has offered advice. I seem to remember that this will be seen as a Compliance team issue, you have made a mistake, not deliberately withheld information about your savings. Any amount over 6k becomes tariff income, £1 for every £250 over the 6k, So your benefit entitlement will be adjusted(as mine is) and I expect they will claw back the overpayment.Please get some advice about how you should manage this rather than let it stew and make you more unwell. Good luck.
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    · 6 days ago
    Patently all-too-many people are still struggling with this UC migration & it's hard to believe that this isn't by government design. After all, what could be simpler in this day & age than updating the DWP's software to make the transition from ESA to UC run smoothly, automatically & stress-free? But that would defeat the objective. One that's seen many claimants either give up, or else run foul of some rule or minor detail only to end up having to make fresh claims under more far stringent impositions & end up receiving less help. - I'll admit that since the increasingly politicized DWP brought forward the UC migration to be completed by this September, receiving that brown envelope through the letterbox is increasingly on my mind most days. 

    Though this is Tory IDS's creation, Labour seem to believe that by continuing to appease RW populism it'll save them come 2029. I think it won't do. Their credibility as a party that cares for more vulnerable citizens is shot to pieces.  Though I'm a former Labour voter, I never fell for their evasiveness pre-2024's GE & voted Green Party. I'll never vote Labour again &, fair to say, neither will many other people.
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      · 3 days ago
      @DJ Indeed, there's no doubt in my mind that Starmer's Labour ("nasty party" MKII) have deliberately avoided making things much easier for claimants, Plus, now that the DWP have brought forward deadlines for sending the last UC migration letters to September, errors on bother sides seem likely to continue. - Like others, I'm not looking forward to receiving that brown envelope & I feel genuine sympathy for those currently struggling with this avoidable process. This on top of all their daily health problems. The sheer contempt I feel for Starmer's Labour & Kendall right now is best left unstated on this site. - All the best!
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      · 3 days ago
      @Ivan Damn Right IVAN total stressful mess from start to finish indeed I think it is their intention for them to finish a lot of us off completely!
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    · 6 days ago
    I have had no end of problems with my migration since  I attempted it at the start of this month. I have no phone due ton doctors orders of ptsd and dpression   nor internet access. Citizens advice where and have been very helpful, They arranged a 3 way call and helped me in a telpehone claim from there  it has all been down hill. I have no passport or driving license  so can't do the on line id check. 

    Despite being asked for a home visit as I cant attend the job center alone they (dwp) have been giving me and the Citizens advice the run around, First they claimed they had to have a phone number simply to call back to arrange an appointment for a  home visit (now claimed to be an 8 week wait) without saying when that call would be. Then when forced into making a call back date and time so I could use a friends phone they waited until  the morning of that call and cancelled it without warning, Informing the citixens advice they couldnt do that call as it was not my phone, Guess they are trying to claim it was a bio interview when it never was. 

    They will never put anything in writing including those appointments  citing they will call me back with by the close of business next day , (guess they ont understand what no phone means) or to check ny hournal which of course I have no access to (online phone claim). When once again the Cits' advice intervened  they finally  sent me a letter   calling me into the  job center and  resisted tooth and claw until finally notifingy me of a phone appointment  on the 18 of this month at my friends I fully expect  that to be cancelled  without  warning and the entire circle to begin again,

    All this over a simple appointment date and I still do not have one,

    They are going to get me evicted at this rate due to no housing benefit.
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      · 3 days ago
      @G J R I do have home phone and mobile but due to disabilities it is a mobile phone.

      They DID the same to me KNOWING that I was in the support group on ESA I was told that if I WAITED for a home visit to check my ID it would delay my claim by up to a further 8 weeks.

      It took 2 persons to get me into the job centre to confirm my identity with bank statements, I do NOT have a passport or driving licence either!

      Therefore, you will need to prove ID with bank details, RE bank statements up to date if you bank with Nat West they do NOT any longer print your account number and sort code on back of your card so you NEED to get a bank statement sent out to you, that takes up to over a week to get to you if NOT you need to go into bank and get one printed off and request it be stamped explain to them the hardship this can cause to you if you do NOT get this ID! 

      THE BANK WILL BE MOST HELPFUL IF YOU SHARE YOUR EXPERIENCE.
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    · 6 days ago
    Hi All...Submitted my UC Migration last week and I was due my ESA tomorrow (was expecting 2 weeks payment and then 1 weeks payment in 2 weeks time to account for the 2 week continuation ) Ive just checked my bank account and I have had a payment today for the 2 week amount but its from a different account called GB CPS FP ACC3 and under payee details is says DWP JSA. Can anybody shed any light as Im really worried as im in the LCWRA group and worried what this means as its normally listed as ESA. Im not on Jobseeker allowance and never have been.... always just ESA.

    Any advice/ help greatly appreciated
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      · 3 days ago
      @John Hi John YES this is how it has been explained to me but it is causing distress to many on top of being denied home visit or biographical ID check when housebound like me.

      It took x2 persons to get me into Job Centre this week as I was told if I waited for home visit it would delay my migration for up to another 8 weeks. 

      I was on INCOME RELATED ESA 

      When I challenged her at the job centre over this with x2 persons with me to support and hands on assist to get me there (to include a welfare officer) attached to my housing association, it appeared that she then announced that part of my claim would still be ir ESA (New style ESA and that deducted £1 for £1 from the UC)

      Then she stated what you have eloquently stated above that those first payments would show as JSA IT IS A TOTAL MESS
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      · 6 days ago
      @John  Thank you for your explanation
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      · 6 days ago
      @samkajo The payment from ESA that covers the 2 week UC overlap will appear as from JSA. Also if you are contributions based ESA and moving to new style ESA the ESA payments will appear as from JSA until New Style ESA sets up your claim in their automated system. Also if you request to be paid UC two times a month instead of monthly the UC payments will appear as from JSA. And if they screw up paying you on time during any of this and make an emergency payment that will appear as JSA.

      I think it is just due to the payment system they use instead of the automated one used once everything is up and running fully. 
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    · 6 days ago
    I'm still getting esa after being on uc for 6 years.!! I think it's deducted from the uc though? 
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    · 6 days ago
    I’m dreading it I want to do an online application my carer will help with journal entries but need help ie a home visit to make claim any thoughts or suggestions would be appreciated
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      · 3 days ago
      @Gail Hi Gail I did mine via 3 way migration with CAB as my care worker's would NOT take responsibility for it. I am in Support Group for ESA being migrated across in LCWRA for UC. Really NEEDED home visit to confirm my ID as I have NO passport. Housebound. Was called after I made 3 way migration with CAB less than an hour later by local job centre telling me that if I NEEDED home visit it would DELAY my migration by up to another 8 weeks therefore it took 2 people to get me into Job Centre this week with my disability equipment.

      Then to be told that I am going to be on ir contribution based ESA (New style) with the rest being topped up with U/C. 

      It is STILL a mystery to me how this has/is happening to some of us and actually the moderator on this site does NOT seem to have much of a clue if you go into long posts to him about it! 

      So I HOPE in the area where you live that they have enough home visit team staff employed to assist to make your claim because as you will read on this post by others there has been GREAT difficulty with this happening as it should be
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      · 6 days ago
      @Gail You can pop into the job centre,they have computers and are helpful.
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      · 6 days ago
      @Gail If you can I would suggest delaying the migration online to 28 days before the date you are due to Migrate.

      Once you start an application for UC you have 28 days to submit it or you have to start again. 

      You could complete a to-do list every couple of days especially if you are able to get a carer to help you. You can save your application at any time so that you don't have to go back to the beginning. 

      I think from memory there are roughly 10 to-do lists so you should be able to complete it well within the timescale. 

      It also pays to gather your identity documents early on the application especially if you are doing so online. 

      I would also try to save some money beforehand since it is 5 weeks before you receive your first payment although you can get an advance. 

      Good luck. Hope it goes smoothly for you. 
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    · 6 days ago
    I spent 1 HR 28 min on hold this morning after getting no money from UC since migrating in April. I've been told I've moved to the new ESA dual claim with UC as I had NI contributions in 2010/11, and it's the migration team's fault for not updating my support group information. This is the 4th person I've spoken with and I've sent 4 journal messages (3 were ignored, and 1 said just wait) trying to sort it out. My mental health is spiralling and the resultant time in bed makes the damage in my back worse. I hate the DWP with a passion!
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      · 3 days ago
      @Sam I KNOW SAM this is becoming increasingly DIFFICULT due to the Government ramping up with accelerated speed to get all moved across to UC by September.

      I do NOT think it matters whether you do the managed migration over the phone or on-line dependant on our individual disabilities the problem where it is becoming apparent is when you have the dual element of ESA (new style) and UC as they have NOT updated their systems to pay this out showing the accurate information from the outset. 

      I would call CAB and tell them that they FAILED to update your status from support group on ESA to LCWRA on UC and let them take over with the calls. For you or see if they can wait on the line with you on a 3 way call to get this dealt with. 

      I have been told this week that I am also going to new style esa (dual claim with UC) as you eloquently phrase it. However it was explained to me in a different way because of historically having class 1 contributions!

      However, I was told that it had been updated on their systems that I had NO work commitments as being migrated across from Income related ESA to UC (in support group).

      I did my migration via the 3 way phone call with CAB and informed NEEDED home visit with genuine reasons BUT then I was called an hour later after making the 3 way call with the CAB by local job centre that they needed to verify my ID in person as I had made the claim via 3 way call and they wanted ID then with oppressive tactics told that If I was NOT brought in with ID bank statements as I had NO photo ID that I would then be waiting a further 8 weeks for a home visit from the Job centre, visiting team!

      It took 2 people to physically get me into the job centre and INDEED one of whom who supported to assist me was a local welfare officer. 

      Questions were asked of them and without being rude I told them that this was NOT acceptable and then she informed that my claim was based up of new style ESA contemporaneously with UC they are pushing us over the edge! 

      It is making us ALL worse with our disabilties/conditions whatever they maybe. 
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      · 6 days ago
      @Sam Sam, I would post on the forum and ask David if he can provide you with the name of the area Manager to send a complaint to. This rushed migration is causing so many problems, I wish you the best of luck getting this sorted.
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    · 7 days ago
    I had and still have a nightmare of a time with UC change over, firstly, no one said it is paid in arrears, so first month, after deductions, I was awarded £0 for May as all April payments were removed. I  asked, how was I supposed to live on nothing for a month, I was told that that was my amount due.  You can request an advance payment which I did because the changes were not explained to me, I had to ring DWP  to find out that I would be awarded the New ESA so no idea why this version is in place as pointless changing to UC, , so I returned most of the loan except for £80 as I was £140.20 less for the first 2 weeks. However 6 days later the lower rate work assessment was added so from £70.10 per week less money this was then topped up by £140.20 only 2 weeks worth not 4 but on a different date and day to my regular payments which courses havoc with Bill payments, of which £16.50 was deducted for the £80 loan. During this time, i  received a letter from Birmingham city council demanding Council Tax as, Someone, no idea who, has incorrectly changed something from my single, disabled plus support discount for a £0 bill to £1900 plus bill, 6 contact/complaints forms, several phone calls to each  UC, DWP and various departments in Birmingham city council tax, followed 4 letters from them, amending payments each time to an eventual bill for £184 which is still incorrect.  My second UC payment is still £140.20 lower (70.10 for 2 weeks) than original payments, which were allegedly guaranteed.  I have explained this, so many times, that I am £140.20 less per month but the Council Tax has gone up. No one cares but all DWP departments agree my bill for Council Tax should be £0 except the Council Tax Support departments who state they receive the information from the DWP. So UC change does not only affect this change but has other knock on problems.  I don't have much fight left in me to contest the Council Tax bill and I am still waiting for them to get it corrected but I will not hold my breath.
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    · 7 days ago
    This migration could not have been made more complicated to understand or more likely to fail to go through quickly if they had tried.  My first payment amounted to £0.00, my transitional protection was not there, and I was being told still that I needed to supply a fitnote.  This was even after I repeated in my journal that this was not the case.
    I have put in a mandatory reconsideration request and just pray that this sorts the issue out.
    The amount of stress is unreasonable, and to attempt to force huge numbers through on a system not up to purpose is like herding cattle.  The whole thing is sordid and confirms for me that the Labour party will never get my vote again.
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      · 6 days ago
      @Stephen You just go too the job centre and use their computers too migrate,ask them any questions ,make sure you have Id.
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    · 7 days ago
    also when i filled in the esa form the 1st time it ask which, either ir or contribution.

    so if you ticked  ir how can they say your on both, when migrated to uc.

    must be a scandal.
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    · 7 days ago
    applied for UC and already had a £14.87 deduction from my last payment they claim this will be made up in the next uc payments  and that i would get contributary based uc and get 2 seperate payments seperated out in my claim even though i was on income based esa cit ad said way to see what happens 

    i have 4 weeks to check te payment and will unlikey get paprwork with verificatin with date till 1st uc payment being 4 weeks anyway

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    · 7 days ago
    I received my migration notice and this coincided with a move to a completely new area. I filed my forms once I had moved address as this was still 6wks before the cut off time. I still received my ESA (which I had been told was IR not contribution based) as normal and my PIP payments.  Then I received a journal notice that I was to receive a telephone call from my local JCP and my stress levels rise with panic and worry.

    The lady who called me from the Peterlee office was friendly and very reassuring. She explained that I would remain in the support group and would not need to send in any fit notes, attend the office or look for work. She explained that I was still entitled to CB ESA and that I would receive that as a separate payment, but if any changes were to be notified then I would need to inform both UC and ESA as they were different departments and did not communicate!
    Overall my experience was a positive one and the telephone call took 15 minutes and put my mind at rest and saved me a lot of undue stress. So whilst the government are hitting the disabled there are still some people in the JC who care and we can't tar them all with the same brush!
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    · 7 days ago
    The migration process is utterly useless. Why they didnt just get claimants to enter in a reference code from their transition paper, so that everything is brought over for you to check, instead of having to essentially fill out a "new claim" for UC, is anyones guess. I was so confused by a lot of the questions because its the same form that everyone uses to put in a new claim for UC, whether theyre migrating from esa or not! I also had on my uc journal to sign an agreement for new style esa. Even though i didnt get contribution based esa because ive never worked full time. I even called up and queried it and even the person on the phone was confused as to why that was put in my journal. She checked everything and said it must be a clerical error. 
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    · 7 days ago
    Just retired, thank god I was able to escape any form of migration/s onto UC.

    Good luck to all.
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    · 7 days ago
    My issue is that UC have deducted £35 from my payment for ‘ESA’ payment, but I didn’t get the £35 at all. I have asked in my journal many times and also called requesting to speak to someone (with an actual refusal) but they have consistently ignored my issue. They even told me I am getting all that is due to me and I should be thankful. I’m beyond stressed and have almost given up trying. 
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    · 7 days ago
    ESA and PIP Migration and Pension. This could affect thousands of people as they approach retirement age, and has already adversely affected thousands. For those already on benefits such as ESA, there was and is a migration route to UC and possibly PIP. The reasons for being on ESA or another benefit may also be qualifiers for being eligible for pension credit. However, once that person becomes of pensionable age, the ESA automatically stops. A person who had not yet migrated, or who was in the process of migrating when reaching pensionable age, will not automatically receive pension credit. This is because the department dealing with employment does not and refuses to talk to the department dealing with pensions, and vice-versa, - the alleged reason from DWP being that GDPR does not allow sharing of data, but that reason is suspect and unsafe, since DWP fraud investigators can go anywhere. Add to this that the basic pension ( wrongly classed as income ) is just above the eligibility threshold for pension credit, otherwise entitled people will not receive the credit component with their pension. Another factor was that the DWP claim to no longer have the original award documents for ESA / PIP, again because the DWP claims they were destroyed according to the DWP retention policy to comply with UK-GDPR. This could also affect those taking their pension early, for example, due to disability or ill-health. Therefore it is advisable that those below pensionable age, at least three months before reaching retirement age ( or planning early retirement ) inform both departments, individually, of their circumstances, give permission to share information, and ensure that when they reach pensionable age, they are awarded pension credit. The process of correcting the DWP mistakes can take over two years. The DWP has made mistakes, but despite their mistakes being confirmed by their internal assessors, the DWP refuses to correct the mistakes, to apologise, or to award the backdated pension credit. The silence of the government minister, who has been kept apprised throughout, has been deafening, as to correct the DWP mistakes would be politically embarrassing and costly to remedy, notwithstanding the current toxic environment of benefit-cutting.
    Good luck
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    · 7 days ago
    Actually when you transfer from old style esa to new style esa, because it is contribution based you no longer qualify for disabled premiums. This is what happened to me and I got no protection, lost over 3k a year in income despite my multiple conditions worsening not improving and now they are talking about cutting pip, i use this to pay for the only medication that works for my rare disease as i cannot access it ok the nhs and i do not get proper care for my rare disease as there are no specialists in the country, so i would love for this government to answer the questions i have been asking, what about care for people like me, how can we gain employment when we can't even access healthcare to help with our conditions, how can cutting services and support help anyone into employment, we need help and support not driven further into poverty by cuts to financial support, healthcare and social care. This is disastrous for disabled people all over the country and this government couldn't care less!
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    · 7 days ago
    Hi everyone. I am getting more & more confused as each week passes!

    My managed migration from irESA to UC started in late April, with an appointment at the Jobcentre to verify my ID because my passport expired 15 years ago & I only had a paper driving licence...so no photographic ID available (except my Blue Badge lol).

    I was then told that I had been receiving 'mixed' ESA, which was certainly news to me (& many others). I have been unable to work since 1994, a total of 31 years, starting on Incapacity Benefit with Income Support top-up . 

    When Incapacity Benefit morphed into ESA, I was placed into the contribution based category by mistake. My poor mental health was such that I didn't have the willpower or strength to challenge this, & instead I relied on Charitable support from an organisation connected with my previous profession. I would not be here now, had it not been for their invaluable support.

    A few years later, I was advised by this Charity to apply for PIP, as my physical health had worsened significantly by then. I hadn't even considered PIP! I was awarded Enhanced Rate for both categories, which was life changing as it gave me my independence back, & I no longer had to rely on Charitable help to survive.

    At this point I was also advised to apply for income related ESA, which was awarded almost immediately.

    3 years later, DWP phoned me out of the blue to ask if I wanted to retrospectively apply for irESA backpayments, but (stupidly) I  declined this offer, as it would have involved a lot of extra stress & hours of searching through old bank statements & award letters with no guarantee of success. My filing system was (& is) non-existent, even after numerous attempts to get organised!

    I cannot see how I can be eligible for new style ESA when I have been incapable of work for 31 years! I am 62 years old.

    I have a telephone appointment for next Wednesday (commitments to new-style ESA), & I don't know what to do next...

    Any advice will be gratefully received!

    Many thanks

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      · 7 days ago
      @LilaKitten i  think they are conning claiments with this mixed esa bit,  because how could you  prove otherwise as the letters they send dont state you get both.

      this is a filthy vile scandal by the sos.
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      · 7 days ago
      @LilaKitten i had the same thing and its a clerical error. I had the phone appt too and the lady on the phone said that because im LCWRA im not expected to look for work or anything. It was basically to confirm everything. It was a short 5 minute phonecall :) dont worry, youre not alone in this

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