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Oh please!  So we have all these people who’re not particularly trained in anything, who get to decide if we’re fit for work.  

If you mean you want to move to uc then could you wait until you get the managed migration letter so as to get transitional protection of your legacy benefits?

Or could you delay a house move until you have been manage migrated to uc, or move within the same la?

It's really bad luck if you have to move to a new la straight away and so unfair.

And it's going to take until June 2025 ( who housing benefit people or UC people) before they reach a decision on your inquiry.

Of which they have come in very useful.   Some assessors still try to dismiss the GP's sick/ fit notes, as they think the claimant is lying to their GP to put down bent symptoms, so to make it look like your more ill than you already are.

But the majority of my multiple illnesses/ conditions are also backed up with consultants, and they all coincide nicely.  So it's hard for the assessor to dismiss my illnesses etc.

Thing is they are so transparent it's laughable. Must think because we are unwell we are stupid too. 

I know lots of people have a smooth transition over to UC but we rarely get to hear those stories. We are so used to chaos we expect it. Unbelievable. Not fair and downright pathetic to make sick people worse on purpose. 

 ESA only - 

When will they be expected to move onto UC.

Thanks.

"Starmer, who has so far shown the political sure-footedness of an hour old lamb, will see his approval ratings fall even further"

I will quote Regulation 19 in my journal immediately I submit my claim and before I upload my I.D. and housing costs. Hopefully, that will prevent them from asking for a fit note.

I am on ESA WRAG so will have to engage with the JC at some point but I don't want to be getting into Needless discussions about fit notes and the WCA.

I just cross my fingers I get a fair Work Coach.

Unfortunately the DWP are literally so incompetent, they don't even know how their own system works!

Will I have to provide a fit note or prove I am unfit for work if I am
moving to UC from ESA?
No, if you have already been assessed for ESA (and put into the work-related activity or support
groups), you will not have to provide a fit note when you move to Universal Credit.
We have heard of cases of work coaches telling people who are receiving ESA and claiming UC
as a top up, or who are moving to UC from ESA, that they need to start providing fit notes. This
can cause difficulties with the person’s GP, who will have been told by ESA to stop providing fit
notes once the person was found incapable of work.
Regulation 40 of the Universal Credit Regulations 2013 confirms that someone has limited
capability for work and work-related activity (LCWRA) for UC if they have been found to have
LCWRA for either UC or ESA (the support component). The equivalent rule for people who have
been found to have limited capability for work (LCW) can be found in Universal Credit
Regulation 39.
The DWP’s Advice for Decision Makers (their guidance to their staff) also confirms that if
someone moves under managed migration, their work capability assessment decision from ESA
moves with them (paragraph M6192 for the work-related activity component and paragraph
M6195-6 for the support component). 

So much for the DWP's IT people, who cannot construct & implement a SIMPLE system to automatically transit claimants over onto UC.