Citizens Advice (CA) have condemned the government’s Pathways To Work Green Paper in a hard hitting report of their own, entitled ‘Pathways To Poverty’.

The opening paragraph gives a clear indication of the anger and frustration inside an organisation whose workload is likely to be massively increased by the effects of the planned reforms:

“By refusing to properly consult on its plan to cut billions from disability benefits, the government is choosing not to ask questions it doesn’t want the answers to. The cuts will have a devastating impact on disabled people (and their children), sending hundreds of thousands into poverty, and many more into deeper poverty. This will result from a series of arbitrary reforms that have been designed around savings targets rather than improving outcomes, inflicting hardship on people in ways that the government doesn’t yet fully understand.”

The 44 page report is carefully researched and referenced and draws together information from other reports, some of the many Freedom of Information Act requests that have been published and the experiences of its own advisers and clients.

One of the things it argues is that the impacts of the proposals are likely to be worse than the government suggests, because:

  • The government used a dubious sleight of hand to reduce the number of people likely to be pushed into poverty. It counted people who would have been affected by the Tory WCA changes which never happened as having been lifted from poverty they were never actually put in.  So, rather than 250,000 being pushed into relative poverty by Labour, CA thinks it could be as many as 400,000.
  • The Green Paper doesn’t attempt to work out how many people will lose both PIP and the UC health element as a result of the changes, or how much they will lose.
  • The government document doesn’t analyse how many people already in poverty will be more deeply entrenched in poverty as a result of the cuts, although an FoI request has suggested this will be 700,000 people.

Pathways To Poverty goes through the effects of restricting PIP eligibility, cutting the UC health element and making PIP daily living the gateway to UC health.

It argues that the cuts could push people further from work, rather than helping them into employment.

It concludes by saying:

The government must reconsider its current approach. We are calling on the government to cancel proposed cuts to disability benefits. More immediately, we’re asking the government to:

  • Reverse the decision not to consult on cuts to disability benefits.
  • Delay parliamentary votes on disability benefit cuts until all relevant impact assessments have been published. This should include the impact on other public services and the voluntary sector, and estimated employment outcomes from measures proposed in the green paper.

The report is a must read for anyone campaigning on this issue and should be compulsory reading for any MP voting on it – though sadly they are the least likely group to ever open its pages.

You can download a copy of Pathways to Poverty here.

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    · 1 days ago
    Thanks Robbie for your post about the Early Day Motion.

    Siân Berry MP (Green Party) has tabled Early Day Motion (EDM 949) in Parliament calling on the Government to stop scapegoating Disabled people and to build a welfare system based on dignity and respect.

    An EDM is not a debate or a law — it’s a formal statement that MPs can sign to show support and increase political pressure on the Government. The more MPs who sign, the stronger the message.

    If you want to help, here’s a draft letter you can copy, paste, and personalise when you email your MP (no matter which party they’re from):


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    Subject: Please Support EDM 949 on Reductions in Welfare Spending

    Dear [MP’s Name]

    I am writing as your constituent to ask you to sign Early Day Motion 949, proposed by Siân Berry MP (Green Party), which calls for a welfare system based on dignity and respect and urges the Government to stop scapegoating Disabled people.

    The proposed disability benefit cuts will have a devastating effect on hundreds of thousands of people, pushing many into poverty and worsening the lives of those who are already struggling. This is not just a political issue; it is a moral one that affects the most vulnerable members of our communities.

    Please will you add your name to EDM 949 and show your support for cross-party action to protect Disabled people and push back against harmful cuts?

    Thank you for your attention, and I look forward to your response.

    Best wishes
    [Your Name]
    [Your Address and Postcode]
    [Your Telephone Number]
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      · 1 days ago
      @CaroA Sent to my MP. Thanks @CaroA
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      · 1 days ago
      @CaroA @CaroA, @robbie, thanks for the heads up. My mp came out against cuts at the beginning, and has continued to be vocal in fighting them, so I'm going to draw this EDM to his attention. Also, I'm working up to asking him to pin Timms down on the pip for pensioners question. It's really bugging me we haven't had a straight answer to that, just rude.
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      · 1 days ago
      @CaroA @CaroA, thanks for the follow up 🙂 
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    · 2 days ago
    Email to my MP, Anna Sabine:

    Dear Anna,

    In case you did not see this, Citizens Advice has roundly condemned Labour’s welfare plans, calling them ‘Pathways to Poverty’. I have added a link to their full report below.

    https://www.citizensadvice.org.uk/policy/publications/pathways-to-poverty-how-planned-cuts-to-disability-benefits-will-impact-the/

    The Financial Times reports that Labour is considering softening the PIP changes to require a minimum of 12 points. My husband scores 8, but has significant daytime fatigue and chokes and falls regularly. Requiring a minimum of 12 points would still exclude swathes of disabled people who cannot work without a high degree of risk and who would make very unreliable employees. They would remain unable to work, but would receive zero financial help to enable them to meet their basic needs and extra costs associated with disability.

    I spoke to Sir Ed Davey last week, who kindly raised our case in PMQs. I would be grateful if you could ensure that he and other Liberal Democrat colleagues understand that any of these ‘tweaks’ to the proposals will not address the fundamental flaws in this legislation. Labour needs to genuinely co produce proposals with disabled people and their carers and come up with something that doesn’t throw households into deeper poverty.

    Yours sincerely,
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    · 2 days ago

    Excellent report from Citizens Advice — they powerfully lay out how the government’s cuts will devastate disabled peoples lives.

    At the same time, reports like today’s from the Financial Times suggest the government may try to “soften” some of the proposals, perhaps by adjusting the harsh four-point rule — but make no mistake: this still reflects a cruel, divide-and-rule mentality. Offering small reprieves to those on enhanced PIP while stripping support from others who currently qualify does not fix the fundamental injustice at play. 


    We need to keep exposing not only the unfair policies but also the profits made off this suffering — like Maximus, the private US firm running DWP disability assessments, which just reported massive profits while claimants face humiliating, dehumanising treatment. We face devastating cuts, the CEO of Maximus takes home $10.2 million a year, a stark symbol of the injustice at the heart of the system.


    This fight is about more than devisive tweaks; it’s about demanding a system that supports all disabled people with fairness and dignity.
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    · 2 days ago
    US firm that tests eligibility for UK disability benefits pays £10m in dividends

    https://www.theguardian.com/society/2025/may/29/us-firm-maximus-that-tests-eligibility-for-uk-disability-benefits-pays-out-10m-in-dividends
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      · 1 days ago
      @Gingin £300million (Maximus's revenue) is equal to the yearly total of lower rate daily living for 78,068 people - which is more than the number of current claimants who don't score 4 points. The government can find the money for a several-year, multimillion £ contract to a US company with a very dodgy reputation, but hasn't the money for unemployment benefits. 🤔🙄🤷‍♂️
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    · 2 days ago
    Is it me? Or has the government now truly lost the plot?

    "Alison McGovern, who is tasked with a major overhaul to employment support as a result of significant cuts to disability benefits, said the department would use AI to free up the workloads of job coaches, giving them more time to provide “human” support to those with complex needs and long-term unemployment."

    "People whose benefits were cut under Labour would receive radically different support. Work support will be offered by GPs and physiotherapists, in addition to the extended support in jobcentres."

    “One of the things that broke me was reading people say that they thought ‘no one would want them,’” she said. “I cannot live with the idea that there’s people in this country who think that no one wants them.”

    “I don’t blame colleagues for listening to their constituents who are fearful,”

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      · 1 days ago
      @keepingitreal Our GPS are only seeing 15 patients over any day and that's if they prioritise you in the first place. We cant get appointments like the good old days.. Even then it was flipping hard to get one. You could just imagine GPS going into all the details of work support. Never gonna happen. We use to have 10 GPS on any given day,we've Two now. If you ask me they just come up with the biggest load of splurge Just to have something to say instead of standing with their mouth open when asked what support will be put in place. 
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      · 1 days ago
      @Truth Maybe they have good intentions but are going about it the wrong way.
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      · 1 days ago
      @Dez I'd hire you Dez
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      · 1 days ago
      @Yorkie Bard @Yorkie Bard, I love it when I hear stuff like this, the more the better. It just makes the whole prospect sound impossible to implement. Cloud cuckoo land.

      "Work support will be offered by GPs and physiotherapists..."

      Would it baubles. I'm going to ask my gp if she can offer me work support next time I go. I'll take some earplugs in preparation for her answer.
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      · 1 days ago
      @Yorkie Bard “I cannot live with the idea that there’s people in this country who think that no one wants them.“

      There’s no “think” about it, love. Employers don’t want to hire us. You can paint it as us being all doom and gloom or having no confidence or whatever patronising wishy washy response you want to conjure up. It’s a fact.
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    · 2 days ago
    “One of the things that broke me was reading people say that they thought ‘no one would want them,’” she said. “I cannot live with the idea that there’s people in this country who think that no one wants them.”

    How dare this minister talk about being broken as she supports these cuts!!

    https://www.theguardian.com/society/2025/may/29/jobcentres-alison-mcgovern-employment-support-policy


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      · 1 days ago
      @godgivemestrength The government will pull the vote if they look like losing and go back too the drawing board.
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      · 1 days ago
      @tintack @tintack, Abstaining is so not good enough and could lead to terrible disappointment for us. They need to see that if they"re wavering. Vote it down!
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      · 1 days ago
      @Gingin
      Interesting quote from that article: "Ministers are anticipating a significant rebellion and potential defeat when the welfare changes come before parliament, with up to 170 MPs suggesting publicly or privately that they could vote against or abstain on the changes."

      That's the first time I've seen an article stating that they believe they could lose the vote. The pressure needs to be maintained so Labour MPs vote against the cuts. Abstaining isn't good enough.
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    · 2 days ago
    I'm not sure that John McDonnell's (sp?) intervention about a leadership challenge is entirely helpful, not least because we've had a Labour leader on the left, and they lost two elections.  That said, one can hardly say that Starmer's tenure as PM has been a rousing success.  In fact I'm not sure how he has screwed up quite so royally as he has.  All he had to do was keep a steady ship and act professionally.  And yes, he's been doing relatively well on the international stage, but those things don't necessarily better the life of people in the UK itself.  PMs are judged on their policies at home, not abroad, in the main, and the whole thing in that regard is a mess.  

    But there is a bigger problem - and a problem not just in the Labour party - and that's that our current crop of politicians are next to useless.  Who are the rising stars?  Just six months ago, that might have been Darren Jones, but he's clearly neither different from Starmer or able to understand the need for self-censorship, where you don't necessarily say what you're thinking.  Who do you see that could or would take over from Starmer and be any better? Sure, there's plenty that would ditch the disability benefits policy, but that doesn't automatically make them a better leader.  And the Tories are in an even worse position, and the Lib Dems aren't making the most of their seventy MPs either.  I'd like to say that this is a temporary issue, but it's been like this for close to ten years.  How else would Johnson and Truss have become PM?  And, of course, the USA are in a similar situation - how else did they end up with two people of 80 competing in the last election. 

    It's all very worrying, I think. There are 70m people in the UK, and Badenoch, Starmer and Davey are the best politicians we can find?  No wonder why we're in this position.
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      · 1 days ago
      @Matt "Nobody of any talent wants to go into politics."

      The trouble with that attitude is we will be stuck with the same types of people becoming politicians and nothing will change. 
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      · 1 days ago
      @Slb
      I think that's a fair criticism, but the attacks on him from Labour MPs and the right of the party generally started literally from the day he won the leadership. Even while he was giving his acceptance speech, a Labour MP - I think it was Neil Coyle - posted something on twitter which set the tone for what was to follow. Most of the centrists and right wingers then flounced off to the backbenches en masse and said they wouldn't work with him (but remember, these are the same people who accuse the left of ideological dogmatism and an unwillingness to compromise). It was relentless and continued for the entirety of his tenure. It's not as if they gave him a fair chance, decided he wasn't up to it and then turned on him - the knives were out right from the start. Even now Corbyn lives rent free in the Labour right's heads. 

      The only time the attacks from his own party stopped was during the 2017 election campaign. They kept quiet then because they wanted Corbyn to own the result, which they expected to be electoral wipeout for Labour (as if relentlessly attacking him and then keeping quiet for a few weeks would mean they could say they had nothing to do with such an outcome). Then he got 40% of the vote and deprived the Tories of their majority. It does make you wonder what might have been at that election if so much of his party had supported him instead of doing everything possible to undermine him for the preceding two years.
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      · 1 days ago
      @tintack The problem with Corbyn was that he wasn't remotely media savvy and seemingly did nothing to change that - despite elections now won and lost on soundbites.  His naivety cost him dearly.  
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      · 1 days ago
      @SLB
      "I'm not sure that John McDonnell's (sp?) intervention about a leadership challenge is entirely helpful, not least because we've had a Labour leader on the left, and they lost two elections."

      Corbyn wasn't perfect by any means, but to be fair, it would be next to impossible for any politician to win when a very large section of their own MPs are running to the media to slag off their own leader. And that's just what they did in the open - a lot more has since come out about just how far they were willing to go to make sure there wasn't a government of the Labour left. Of course that meant an increasingly hard right Tory government instead, but the Labour right would always prefer a right wing Tory government to one led by the left of their own party.

      "But there is a bigger problem - and a problem not just in the Labour party - and that's that our current crop of politicians are next to useless. Who are the rising stars?"

      In the Labour party there aren't any. Or at least, none with any chance of winning the leadership since McSweeney and co kicked out as many left wingers as possible and stitched up the leadership rules to ensure that the left could never again lead the party. People like Zarah Sultana and Clive Lewis would be very good, but they now have no chance of winning. Sultana probably won't even get the Labour whip back.

      I switched to the Greens at the last election. No, they're not perfect either, but they're still a damn sight better than Labour, the Tories or Reform. In fact, the Greens seem to believe in a lot of the things that Labour used to before it was taken over by the Blue Labour and Labour Together mob and turned into a Farage tribute act.
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      · 1 days ago
      @SLB @SLB, yes, someone asked before for real leaders to step forward, and I asked then "Who are they?"

      We can' take that on atm, though, we need to concentrate on overturning this lot's damaging madness. If we succeed in that perhaps future leaders will at least have the wit to see what won't work.
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    · 2 days ago
    The former shadow chancellor accused Keir Starmer’s government of “callousness and political incompetence”, criticising its hesitance in abolishing the two-child limit on benefits, and what he calls a “brutal launch of an attack on benefits of disabled people”

    https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2025/may/28/john-mcdonnell-calls-for-grassroots-leadership-challenge-to-keir-starmer-government
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      · 1 days ago
      @godgivemestrength What confused me about the furlough scheme was a unemployed or disabled person at home all day continued to receive the usual standard benefits, but a working person who wasn't allowed to go to work and therefore at home all day, was paid most of their wages. Person 1 was at home all day; person 2 was at home all day. Yet person 2 needed more money when their situations at the time were the same.
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      · 1 days ago
      @Matt They perhaps had to make furlough high too cover mortgages. Also our debt is on a par with other economys at least where not Japan who owe 260 percent of GDP.
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      · 1 days ago
      @Matt Furlough was never right. For.people to get most of their income when they were not working when those on legacy benefits didn't even get the £20 uplift given to those on uc was obscene. The worst off made to suffer even more as ever. If you didn't have a job before covid you were stuck on minimal support with no way out.
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      · 1 days ago
      @Matt I doubt he would have lost.  After fourteen years of Tory lies, a bit of honesty would have been a good thing. Did Labour voters really feel better off after a 2p cut in NI? Less than £10 a week on a salary of £37k. Instead the "ming vase" strategy got them into power with a landslide, but ultimately prevent them from doing anything with Labour values.
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      · 2 days ago
      @SLB And probably lose. I'm not a fan of the Guardian, but they are right in asserting that the electorate want US levels of taxation with European standard of public services. COVID really did screw the economy: furlough at 80% was far too generous. I work in the insurance industry, and we only offer income protection at 60% of monthly salary 
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    · 2 days ago
    Venue just announced for Cardiff consultasham on 3rd June. It’s  not in the city centre (35 mins by bus from station and then 5 min walk to hotel) and will be challenging for disabled people to get to. It’s the only consultasham in Wales. People are furious, as am I. 
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      · 1 days ago
      @Yorkie Bard Love your humour, Yorkie.
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      · 1 days ago
      @tintack Interesting thought, @tintack. Good argument for maintaining pip awards - we certainly need an appropriate person to help us access events, destinations, dare I say it...work? 
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      · 1 days ago
      @rtbcpart2 rtbcpart2 - I think you are not alone with your initial thoughts on my post about Gingin's typing.

      I've been down voted.

      At first, I thought my humour was off but your comment gives me a reason to be cheerful once again!
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      · 1 days ago
      @tintack Don’t give them ideas /-:
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      · 1 days ago
      @Gingin They're not even trying to hide their contempt anymore. Presumably the one after that will be at the summit of Mount Everest. Bring your own Sherpa.
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      · 2 days ago
      @godgivemestrength Yorkie Bard we posted the FT article at the same time. The link unfortunately takes you to a pay wall, but if you google FT Ministers look at softening uk welfare cuts it will come up in top stories in an accessible form.

      Obviously it wouldn't be enough just to reprieve those with higher awards, but yes, it could be the beginning of the cave-in.
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    · 2 days ago
    John McDonnell is calling for a grassroots leadership challenge to Starmer's government and take back the labour party!!
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    · 2 days ago
    I had to read this 3 times & still I'm not certain!

    I think that the cave-in has started???

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      · 1 days ago
      @Yorkie Bard "A government spokesperson said: “The majority of people who are currently getting Pip will continue to receive it."

      Funny use of the word majority. 
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      · 1 days ago
      @Yorkie Bard What does it say can’t read it please 
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      · 1 days ago
      @Carol non-paywalled version of the Financial Times article  https://archive.is/jlnEC
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      · 1 days ago
      @Dez
      @Dez, it's just the next concession along from wfa and 2 child uc cap (which has been exposed as no concession unless the overall benefit cap is raised or the uc child element disregarded). Further attempt by government at least financial layout for most political gain. Slow learners aren't they? This sort of action is just going to inflame everyone and embolden rebels and campaigners to push harder. 
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      · 2 days ago
      @Dez @Des I agree with all that. People on standard rate could also be paying for a carer, too, so are already struggling and someone might lose the carers allowance that helps them.
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    · 2 days ago
    This needs to be sent to  every single MP. I will against be contacting mine and sending it.

    Please can B&W maybe get the mainstream media to refer to this too? We can do this but coming from a respected organisation like B&W the media would doubtless take more notice.

    Thank you
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    · 2 days ago
    Just keep on fighting I went for my lcw uc interview today and it was awful the work coach was nasty tried to threaten stopping my money at every opportunity if I didn’t do this and do that only been on it for 3 months now should get lcwra next medical but this is what’s waiting for people that loose their pip in future 
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      · 1 days ago
      @Cecelia There's no such thing as "Universal credit long term".

      He must be receiving other benefits. He might be on LCWRA and doing what the DWP calls "Permitted work", which allows people on LCWRA to work up to less than 16 hrs a week with losing their benefits.

      There's no way one could be on the equivalent of Jobseekers Allowance of the UC and just be doing 3 hrs a week for an extended period of time. Under a Claimant Commitment for Universal Credit, you may be required to look for a full-time job, and under wou may be required to spend up to 35 hours a week looking for work or preparing for it. 
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      · 1 days ago
      @Scorpion My friend is 61 years old and has been on Universal credit long term,he only works 3 hours a week
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      · 1 days ago
      @Cecelia Yes, you can claim standard rate UC, but this comes with a claimant commitment with very strict conditions, which won't allow you to be on UC for an unlimited period of time or until you get a job which can take forever. 

      "A total of 583,780 UC sanctions were imposed in the year to end-July 2024."
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      · 2 days ago
      @Scorpion I thought you were put on standard rate Universal credit,which is £400 a month and you stay on it until you find employment.
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      · 2 days ago
      @James h
      You're still fine, as you're on LCW, which doesn't compel you to search for work.

      Worse is waiting for them, and this is Jobseekers Allowance which requires to aggressively search for jobs and get them within a limited period of time. Nowadays, you cannot be on Jobseekers Allowance for an extended period of time as it used to be. And failure to get a job within that period, you lose your UC.

      These days, many claimants are sanctioned before they even get their first payment of UC.


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    · 2 days ago
    Cllr Minesh Parekh, Labour and Co-Operative councillor for Crookes and Crosspool:

    “The more we see Labour figures speak out, the more likely it is that the government may u-turn.”

    https://www.google.co.uk/url?q=https://www.thestar.co.uk/news/politics/third-sheffield-labour-branch-votes-to-express-opposition-to-government-benefits-cuts-5150124&sa=U&ved=2ahUKEwj_nc372saNAxUbX0EAHQOSI-sQ0PADegQIBxAb&usg=AOvVaw1liF_cI3qMa5vvrHs-80Ou
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    · 2 days ago
    @gingin (and others), I tried this when my comments were getting lost or cut after posting - it seems to be working:

    Once you've completed and edited your comment and are ready to post, highlight and cut the whole thing and paste it back, then post.

    Worth a try!
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    · 2 days ago
    This daming report is yet another nail in the government's coffin for their welfare reform proposals. Just shows what a bunch of incompetent wallies they are. Well done CAB. 
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