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1 month 1 week ago #312188 by Sum
How to respond to the DWP response court bundle ?
I've been putting this off ... the house move was very difficult, i still don't feel settled or happy in the new location. so much to do. i just shut down and went into mental hibernation.
i skimmed it last night. Can i make notes on it directly ? Do i need to respond in writing or verbally at hearing ? what bits should i focus on ?
Appreciate any advice as always
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Its been awhile ... still waiting for Appeal hearing date. Current SoE ends Feb 2026. I am concerned that this will mean the Motability lease will be impacted too, while we wait for Appeal hearing. Does anyone know for sure what happens in this scenario ? ... eg PIP continues until hearing outcome? we have to return car and end lease? some other outcome ? Just another day navigating the timeless road of PIP processing 😕 🚗
How to respond to the DWP response court bundle ?
I've been putting this off ... the house move was very difficult, i still don't feel settled or happy in the new location. so much to do. i just shut down and went into mental hibernation.
i skimmed it last night. Can i make notes on it directly ? Do i need to respond in writing or verbally at hearing ? what bits should i focus on ?
Appreciate any advice as always
Thanks
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1 month 1 week ago #312200 by LL26
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Hi Sum,
The papers are for you to do as you please. Most of the pages will be familiar to you,- ie claim form, med reports you gave sent In your MR letter etc.
There will also be copies of decisions, and in particular the assessment report (PA 3 or 4) and the final decision comments made due the appeal. It is likely that you have seen the PA4 (PA4 is a report made after an attended assessment PA3 when non attended.) The decisions may say nothing new than before.
Firstly you don't have to say anything. If your MR and or appeal are full there's no need to repeat what's said before.
However, if you feel that now you have all the info and need to say more, if you wish you can make notes on the appeal bundle, pen or pencil but since the tribunal might refer to this in the hearing don't obliterate what's written.
You can use a pencil note to highlight any discrepancy eg in what was said during the assessment or incorrect assertions etc which you can then comment about in a further letter to the tribunal. Again you can just do this verbally at a hearing, but as I usually advise, don't nit pick, group the criticisms into 4 or 5 bullet points and give examples of each. A paragraph or two about health background, your general struggles etc, deterioration etc is also a good opportunity to provide the tribunal with an overview.
If what you have to say is lengthy then best to write this and send in. However if it's only a brief couple of comments this could be done in the hearing.
I hope this helps.
LL26
The papers are for you to do as you please. Most of the pages will be familiar to you,- ie claim form, med reports you gave sent In your MR letter etc.
There will also be copies of decisions, and in particular the assessment report (PA 3 or 4) and the final decision comments made due the appeal. It is likely that you have seen the PA4 (PA4 is a report made after an attended assessment PA3 when non attended.) The decisions may say nothing new than before.
Firstly you don't have to say anything. If your MR and or appeal are full there's no need to repeat what's said before.
However, if you feel that now you have all the info and need to say more, if you wish you can make notes on the appeal bundle, pen or pencil but since the tribunal might refer to this in the hearing don't obliterate what's written.
You can use a pencil note to highlight any discrepancy eg in what was said during the assessment or incorrect assertions etc which you can then comment about in a further letter to the tribunal. Again you can just do this verbally at a hearing, but as I usually advise, don't nit pick, group the criticisms into 4 or 5 bullet points and give examples of each. A paragraph or two about health background, your general struggles etc, deterioration etc is also a good opportunity to provide the tribunal with an overview.
If what you have to say is lengthy then best to write this and send in. However if it's only a brief couple of comments this could be done in the hearing.
I hope this helps.
LL26
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1 month 1 day ago #312404 by Sum
Remember my nightmare situation approx 5mths ago where i was ready to submit Appeal and system deleted my draft?
Well, i had some mental space yesterday and submitted the Appeal again, just 10 days shy of the 13 month cut off.
i was dreading it, given how much effort it took to compile the case file last time. I decided i would submit the bear min ie i completed only 2 sections:
1 .reason for late application and
2 .explanation for Appeal.
Crucially, i didn't go into any depth about the descriptors.
Submitted late last night.
This morning i got a sms stating
"Your PIP appeal has been lodged. Appeal reference number: ......
DWP has to respond to your appeal by 16 March 2026. You'll receive an update which explains what happens next when they've responded. You don't have to do anything.
PIP Appeals"
I am pleased, but very surprised how quickly the decision was made to accept the late appeal. Makes me wonder if machine is reading this stuff? A person defo didnt actually triage my submission overnight right ? 🤔
hope thats useful to anyone putting in late appeals
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Hi Sum Sorry that you had to start again - I'm surprised at that - sounds like a system failure. BIS
Remember my nightmare situation approx 5mths ago where i was ready to submit Appeal and system deleted my draft?
Well, i had some mental space yesterday and submitted the Appeal again, just 10 days shy of the 13 month cut off.
i was dreading it, given how much effort it took to compile the case file last time. I decided i would submit the bear min ie i completed only 2 sections:
1 .reason for late application and
2 .explanation for Appeal.
Crucially, i didn't go into any depth about the descriptors.
Submitted late last night.
This morning i got a sms stating
"Your PIP appeal has been lodged. Appeal reference number: ......
DWP has to respond to your appeal by 16 March 2026. You'll receive an update which explains what happens next when they've responded. You don't have to do anything.
PIP Appeals"
I am pleased, but very surprised how quickly the decision was made to accept the late appeal. Makes me wonder if machine is reading this stuff? A person defo didnt actually triage my submission overnight right ? 🤔
hope thats useful to anyone putting in late appeals
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3 weeks 6 days ago #312463 by Sum
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where's my last post gone ?
i posted an update on this thread recently but i havent seen it published ? is it lost ? stuck ? or pending ?
i didnt want to duplicate ....
i posted an update on this thread recently but i havent seen it published ? is it lost ? stuck ? or pending ?
i didnt want to duplicate ....
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3 weeks 4 days ago #312486 by Sum
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Hi All,
I did it at last !!
After much procrastination and post-move depression, i have thrown caution to the wind, and submitted the Appeal that was wiped out in July/august by DWP system. I was haunted by this incident, but was aware time is fast running out (last 10 days!) on the 13month deadline for the Appeal appln.
I didn't have the mental capacity/willpower to fully replicate the appeal reasons out again , so just filled out 2 sections to test if HMCTS would accept the application.
I completed the section for 'reason for late appeal' and summary reason for disagreeing with decision. And then i held my breath .....
Application was accepted on the next working day ! it was so quick that i suspect an Ai Bot is just scanning these applications , but anyhow there we are.
I am waiting for DWP response before adding anymore reasons and arguments.
Hope that helps others on the cusp of the 13 month deadline.
I did it at last !!
After much procrastination and post-move depression, i have thrown caution to the wind, and submitted the Appeal that was wiped out in July/august by DWP system. I was haunted by this incident, but was aware time is fast running out (last 10 days!) on the 13month deadline for the Appeal appln.
I didn't have the mental capacity/willpower to fully replicate the appeal reasons out again , so just filled out 2 sections to test if HMCTS would accept the application.
I completed the section for 'reason for late appeal' and summary reason for disagreeing with decision. And then i held my breath .....
Application was accepted on the next working day ! it was so quick that i suspect an Ai Bot is just scanning these applications , but anyhow there we are.
I am waiting for DWP response before adding anymore reasons and arguments.
Hope that helps others on the cusp of the 13 month deadline.
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3 weeks 4 days ago #312489 by LL26
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Hi Sum,
Post just pending mods viewing.
Now here!
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