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5 months 2 weeks ago #296580 by claire
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Hi , I wonder if anyone can help. I migrated over from IR ESA support group to UC couple of weeks ago, all went smoothly so far. Last week I had another Claimant Commitment to accept and when I queried this on my Journal I was told “As you was in ESA support group the Limited capability for work and work-related activity decision has been added to your claim. This has generated for Commitments to be accepted. These are in your to do list, please accept them.” Which I did. Today I received a letter saying your contribution based ESA will change to New style ESA on 30/10/24 and proceeds to say that they will contact me to book an appointment I must attend , your work coach will explain what you need to do to get New Style ESA and they will create an agreement with you called a Claimant Commitment which I must accept etc. Any clues as to what it’s for? It says my contribution based will change to new style. I was on Income related support group migrated to UC not contribution based. I have already “signed “ 2 claimant commitments on the journal and had interview with work coach. I’m wondering if my letter could be to do with the second claimant commitment ( mentioned above)I had to do coincidentally same date as the letter or if it’s a completely separate thing. I have put a message on my journal but wondered if anyone else has encountered this or knows what it means? TIA
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5 months 2 weeks ago #296586 by David
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Hi claire,
Your UC Migration is going correctly from what you are saying . Your old contribution based ESA is changing to New Style ESA which is effectively the same thing. However for political reasons a few years ago the Tory government wanted to get rid of the concept of " Benefit Entitlement " and wanted to replace it with a " contract "". This is called the Claimant Commitment which varies according to your personal employment situation. As you have been found unfit for work you only have to sign the " basic " Clamaint Commitment which just says you will notify the DWP of any changes. With UC most people sign the Claimant Commitment by clicking the green Accept button on their UC account. But for New Style ESA most people have to attend the Jobcentre to do this. It's just the way the DWP have organised things.
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Your UC Migration is going correctly from what you are saying . Your old contribution based ESA is changing to New Style ESA which is effectively the same thing. However for political reasons a few years ago the Tory government wanted to get rid of the concept of " Benefit Entitlement " and wanted to replace it with a " contract "". This is called the Claimant Commitment which varies according to your personal employment situation. As you have been found unfit for work you only have to sign the " basic " Clamaint Commitment which just says you will notify the DWP of any changes. With UC most people sign the Claimant Commitment by clicking the green Accept button on their UC account. But for New Style ESA most people have to attend the Jobcentre to do this. It's just the way the DWP have organised things.
David
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5 months 1 week ago #296662 by spaceinvader
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Sorry to nosey in, but I have had the exact same letter! I was on income related ESA support group and had the same letter stating I would be on contribution based. I telephoned DWP advising them I was in the process of migrating to UC and had already signed the commitments etc but more importantly, to tell them they had made a mistake saying I was on contribution based ESA when I was in fact on income related ESA. The woman on the telephone told me I had been moved onto contribution based due to my ‘past work NI contribution stamps’ being up to date even though I haven’t been able to work for the last five years or so. She then said I will lose out on money each month and that she can’t tell me how much I will have to wait until my UC is worked out, but that I can still receive my ESA fortnightly is I so wish? I told her I thought the whole point of UC was to make things into one monthly payment but she claimed I was able to still be paid my ESA fortnightly is I want to. I am so confused and worried by the whole contribution based thing?
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5 months 1 week ago #296668 by David
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Hi spaceinvader,
It sounds as if you have an old style contributions based ESA claim and were receiving top ups of income based ESA. So that with Managed Migration the old conts ESA becomes New Style ESA and the income based ESA is stopped and replaced with UC. Have you tried phoning the Citizens Advice Help to Claim phone number which should be on page 2 of your Managed Migration letter?
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It sounds as if you have an old style contributions based ESA claim and were receiving top ups of income based ESA. So that with Managed Migration the old conts ESA becomes New Style ESA and the income based ESA is stopped and replaced with UC. Have you tried phoning the Citizens Advice Help to Claim phone number which should be on page 2 of your Managed Migration letter?
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2 months 2 weeks ago #299115 by Gt88
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Can I ask what happened please as we have received this letter today. I’ve been in income based support group for over ten years so very confused and stressed by it.
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1 month 4 weeks ago #299988 by nailseadi
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I received the same letter on the 7th of February and ignored it initially as my ESA would stop next week after the UC migration had gone through.
My ESA, it's not changing, it's stopping!! So put it down to the fact that the ESA people and UC credit people are not really communicating that well, and this is just a generic letter sent out about the ESA changes, but there you go, that's the DWP.
A little confusing though, given the recent Universal Credit migration, this will no doubt scare a lot of already scared people even more.
However, I've got a journal message saying if I'm on ESA currently, which I am until next week I have to contact them and notify them of the change to UC. Frightening that their systems don't seem to know that, so I phoned up, waited on hold for one hour and 44 minutes, and eventually, in one minute conversation, told to ignore the letter as I have successfully migrated to universal credit, which I knew all along thanks DWP, gold standard as always.
I would never normally advocate ignoring DWP paperwork, but I really wish I'd gone with my gut on this one.
My ESA, it's not changing, it's stopping!! So put it down to the fact that the ESA people and UC credit people are not really communicating that well, and this is just a generic letter sent out about the ESA changes, but there you go, that's the DWP.
A little confusing though, given the recent Universal Credit migration, this will no doubt scare a lot of already scared people even more.
However, I've got a journal message saying if I'm on ESA currently, which I am until next week I have to contact them and notify them of the change to UC. Frightening that their systems don't seem to know that, so I phoned up, waited on hold for one hour and 44 minutes, and eventually, in one minute conversation, told to ignore the letter as I have successfully migrated to universal credit, which I knew all along thanks DWP, gold standard as always.
I would never normally advocate ignoring DWP paperwork, but I really wish I'd gone with my gut on this one.
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