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1 week 3 days ago #296476 by Moghul
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Hi,
Can anyone help, I scored zero for saying I use a app to remind me to take medication which when taken medication you have to then click on the app to state medication has been taken and reminder then stops.
I was not given any points for using a dressing aid for using to dress my lower body i.e. underwear, trousers and socks
For mobility as I suffer from bursitis in my feet and bursitis in the the hip, which I told the assessor, but appears it has not been taken into account. The daily living awarded 6 points, but should have been given 2 points for dressing and 1 point for medication aid.
For mobility I've been given 4 points the assessor states that I can walk for up to 12 meters stop and rest for 2-3 minutes being able to continue, however this is not supported by available evidence, and then continues to say I can stand and walk more than 50 metres but no more then 200 metres aided or unaided. The assessor has decided to make these figures up themselves, when I told them that after around 12 meters my feet begin to hurt and I get pain in my hip and further walking the pain increases.
Please any advice would be much appreciated.
Can anyone help, I scored zero for saying I use a app to remind me to take medication which when taken medication you have to then click on the app to state medication has been taken and reminder then stops.
I was not given any points for using a dressing aid for using to dress my lower body i.e. underwear, trousers and socks
For mobility as I suffer from bursitis in my feet and bursitis in the the hip, which I told the assessor, but appears it has not been taken into account. The daily living awarded 6 points, but should have been given 2 points for dressing and 1 point for medication aid.
For mobility I've been given 4 points the assessor states that I can walk for up to 12 meters stop and rest for 2-3 minutes being able to continue, however this is not supported by available evidence, and then continues to say I can stand and walk more than 50 metres but no more then 200 metres aided or unaided. The assessor has decided to make these figures up themselves, when I told them that after around 12 meters my feet begin to hurt and I get pain in my hip and further walking the pain increases.
Please any advice would be much appreciated.
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1 week 3 days ago #296517 by LL26
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Replied by LL26 on topic PIP daily living and mobility
Hi Moghul,
If you want to pursue you will need to make a Mandatory Reconsideration. Basically write in and say DWP got it wrong and can they review.
OK, it seems you have already got the assessment report (PA4) - before you do anything see if you can work out the major criticisms, to put together as 4 or 5 bullet points giving examples of why.
You might wish to complain about the brusque manner of the assessor, it could be that the assessor either didn't understand, or didn't accurately record your responses.
So eg
•throughout the whole assessment the assessor was very critical and did not let me finish my answers- when I said I needed to tell him about X disease he said he didn't need or want to know
• The assessor did not accurately record what I said, and was clearly confused - the assessor repeatedly asked about looking after my mother, and the report says that I can look after my 85 year old mother so can look after myself. This information is totally incorrect as my mother passed away over 20 years ago!
• The assessment report has poor grammar and many spelling mistakes, suggesting a lack of attention from the assessor- on at least 2 occasions he referred to me as John, but my name is Moghul.
Don't say the assessor lied, unlikely you can prove it, and so just say he was confused or misunderstood etc...
Once you have your bullet points sorted put them aside to put in your letter.
Start the letter with an overview of your health, any surgery, what medication has or hasn't worked and why, when did things get worse etc
Next you will write out that you felt the assessment did not reflect the true nature of your condition/s. Put the bullet points and examples here.
Finally, (and you may wish to re-read the members guides for clarity, ) go through each descriptor. If you agree with DWP just briefly say. EgDescriptor 1
DWP awarded 2 points for needing an aid for preparing food. This is correct as I need to use a perching stool because I can not stand for long...
Otherwise explain that DWP awarded 0 points and the assessor clearly did not understand because...[ here you can have a more focused criticism] explain your disability and then say because I can't do X.... I should be awarded Y points.
Remember there are 4 'reliability criteria ' all of which must be satisfied.
Safety
Repeatedly
Acceptable standard
Reasonable time
(Members guides discuss these in more detail or re-post if you are still unsure.)
Additionally if your condition varies then you only need to consider the majority of days. If 2 or more descriptors in a set apply equally then the highest value is the correct score if they apply unequally then the most prevalent is the correct score.
You normally need to send in your letter within a month of the date of decision. If you have been ill, or had eg a family crisis then this may be sufficient to show a reasonable cause to allow a late MR. Latest date is 13 months afterwards, but this late will require a very good excuse!
You can write or type your letter. There us a form, but I have never used this. Just a normal letter to the address per decision notice You can include further medical or other evidence, or refer to previous evidence sent in (and ignored!) Make sure name and NI number are clearly marked at top or bottom of each page.
Good luck.
Let us know how you get on.
I hope this helps.
LL26
If you want to pursue you will need to make a Mandatory Reconsideration. Basically write in and say DWP got it wrong and can they review.
OK, it seems you have already got the assessment report (PA4) - before you do anything see if you can work out the major criticisms, to put together as 4 or 5 bullet points giving examples of why.
You might wish to complain about the brusque manner of the assessor, it could be that the assessor either didn't understand, or didn't accurately record your responses.
So eg
•throughout the whole assessment the assessor was very critical and did not let me finish my answers- when I said I needed to tell him about X disease he said he didn't need or want to know
• The assessor did not accurately record what I said, and was clearly confused - the assessor repeatedly asked about looking after my mother, and the report says that I can look after my 85 year old mother so can look after myself. This information is totally incorrect as my mother passed away over 20 years ago!
• The assessment report has poor grammar and many spelling mistakes, suggesting a lack of attention from the assessor- on at least 2 occasions he referred to me as John, but my name is Moghul.
Don't say the assessor lied, unlikely you can prove it, and so just say he was confused or misunderstood etc...
Once you have your bullet points sorted put them aside to put in your letter.
Start the letter with an overview of your health, any surgery, what medication has or hasn't worked and why, when did things get worse etc
Next you will write out that you felt the assessment did not reflect the true nature of your condition/s. Put the bullet points and examples here.
Finally, (and you may wish to re-read the members guides for clarity, ) go through each descriptor. If you agree with DWP just briefly say. EgDescriptor 1
DWP awarded 2 points for needing an aid for preparing food. This is correct as I need to use a perching stool because I can not stand for long...
Otherwise explain that DWP awarded 0 points and the assessor clearly did not understand because...[ here you can have a more focused criticism] explain your disability and then say because I can't do X.... I should be awarded Y points.
Remember there are 4 'reliability criteria ' all of which must be satisfied.
Safety
Repeatedly
Acceptable standard
Reasonable time
(Members guides discuss these in more detail or re-post if you are still unsure.)
Additionally if your condition varies then you only need to consider the majority of days. If 2 or more descriptors in a set apply equally then the highest value is the correct score if they apply unequally then the most prevalent is the correct score.
You normally need to send in your letter within a month of the date of decision. If you have been ill, or had eg a family crisis then this may be sufficient to show a reasonable cause to allow a late MR. Latest date is 13 months afterwards, but this late will require a very good excuse!
You can write or type your letter. There us a form, but I have never used this. Just a normal letter to the address per decision notice You can include further medical or other evidence, or refer to previous evidence sent in (and ignored!) Make sure name and NI number are clearly marked at top or bottom of each page.
Good luck.
Let us know how you get on.
I hope this helps.
LL26
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