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11 years 9 months ago - 11 years 9 months ago #109557 by MariW
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I refer to a recent thread started by Del and titled ESA WRAG Placements: www.benefitsandwork.co.uk/forum?view=sea...ldforums=1&catids=10
In the course of the above discussion Jim Allison posted the following link to a Rightsnet post about a claimant with severe agoraphobia: www.rightsnet.org.uk/forums/viewthread/5073/
It brought to mind the question I posted in June titled ESA50: Social situations and “tell us why…” Here it is: www.benefitsandwork.co.uk/forum?view=top...d=98266&limitstart=0
The claimant has passed through the fire of a face-to-face WCA and the result is still pending.
The two threads cited-- and many others to do with extreme physical or mental disability-- lead me to query whether Jobcentre Plus even offer Work Related Activity (not just WFI) that can be fulfilled from a claimant’s home or whether a Work Programme Provider offer home-based work.
For many people, flexible part-time work from home be it paid or unpaid is the only way forward...and even that a difficult route.
In the course of the above discussion Jim Allison posted the following link to a Rightsnet post about a claimant with severe agoraphobia: www.rightsnet.org.uk/forums/viewthread/5073/
It brought to mind the question I posted in June titled ESA50: Social situations and “tell us why…” Here it is: www.benefitsandwork.co.uk/forum?view=top...d=98266&limitstart=0
The claimant has passed through the fire of a face-to-face WCA and the result is still pending.
The two threads cited-- and many others to do with extreme physical or mental disability-- lead me to query whether Jobcentre Plus even offer Work Related Activity (not just WFI) that can be fulfilled from a claimant’s home or whether a Work Programme Provider offer home-based work.
For many people, flexible part-time work from home be it paid or unpaid is the only way forward...and even that a difficult route.
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11 years 9 months ago #109562 by Gordon
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MariW
You will have to forgive me, but I am a little confused with the detail of your post.
I am afraid I do not see the relationship between the two pieces of Case Law and Work Related Activity.
Is the aim of the DWP to sponsor WRA in the home, not to any real extent? You only have to look at the Government rhetoric to see that they see work as something that claimants go out to do.
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You will have to forgive me, but I am a little confused with the detail of your post.

I am afraid I do not see the relationship between the two pieces of Case Law and Work Related Activity.
Is the aim of the DWP to sponsor WRA in the home, not to any real extent? You only have to look at the Government rhetoric to see that they see work as something that claimants go out to do.
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11 years 9 months ago - 11 years 9 months ago #109573 by MariW
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Gordon,
I’m sorry to have caused confused so soon after the Bank Holiday!
I am familiar with the Government's rhetoric but possibly not their primary intention.
The Government has said its aim is to get people off out-of-work benefits and into employment. In legislating for ESA it has stated that WRA and WP placements must take into account a claimants physical and/or mental limitations. Hence my question with reference to two claimants mentioned on this forum.
The Government has never stated that its primary aim in reforming the welfare system is to drive people into specific types of work. That said, when I think back to the Cait Reilly (Poundland) case of 2011 it does appear that the Government has no intention of ensuring that work placements are in keeping with JSA/ESA claimants’ specific attributes and/or limitations.
MW
I’m sorry to have caused confused so soon after the Bank Holiday!

I am familiar with the Government's rhetoric but possibly not their primary intention.
The Government has said its aim is to get people off out-of-work benefits and into employment. In legislating for ESA it has stated that WRA and WP placements must take into account a claimants physical and/or mental limitations. Hence my question with reference to two claimants mentioned on this forum.
The Government has never stated that its primary aim in reforming the welfare system is to drive people into specific types of work. That said, when I think back to the Cait Reilly (Poundland) case of 2011 it does appear that the Government has no intention of ensuring that work placements are in keeping with JSA/ESA claimants’ specific attributes and/or limitations.

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At the risk of this being seen as a discussion topic, which is not allowed in the forum.
The system is not designed to work for the individual, in fact it would be completely impractical for it to do so, it works in percentages and groups and where it does consider people it is in the 10s of 1000s, so there will always be individuals who are to ill to work, but not ill enough for the WRAG, those unable to perform most Work Related Activity, but not all and therefore qualify for the SG.
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At the risk of this being seen as a discussion topic, which is not allowed in the forum.
The system is not designed to work for the individual, in fact it would be completely impractical for it to do so, it works in percentages and groups and where it does consider people it is in the 10s of 1000s, so there will always be individuals who are to ill to work, but not ill enough for the WRAG, those unable to perform most Work Related Activity, but not all and therefore qualify for the SG.
Gordon
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