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19 hours 37 minutes ago #296855 by Nige 60
Universal Credit Work Capability assessment, paper assessment ? was created by Nige 60
Good evening folks,
Long story, as I am sure many will recognise. I will attempt to shorten the scope to simply ask a plain question.
My health conditions are a complicated in broad range of psychological and physical issues, I am deaf, I have type 2 diabetes, hypertension and other age related issues (I’m 60) anxiety overload
I have been in the LCWRA (support) group before my savings went over the threshold, due to an inheritance, so my claim was closed in June 2023. Fast forward to July 2024, new claim made.
I was originally due a telephone WCA on 16th October 24, this was postponed due to a clerical error.
Rescheduled for 5th November 24, I has asked for appropriate assessment with an assessor familiar with serious psychological disorders, BPD in my case. I am also blessed with a significant amount of spine issues, Tethered Spinal Cord syndrome, lumbar spine and cervical spine degeneration and associated nerve impingements, chronic pain and daily acute pain issues.
More long and complicated descriptions aside.
My phone call on the 5th November, was basically, to inform me that due to evidences I had submitted in the form of Neurological and Psychological reports and a UC113 completed by my GP by hand, a paper assessment had been made and I would not need to have the telephone assessment. I recorded this call and had an advocate present for support.
I’m fully aware that no one can predict what the DWP will decide. Based solely on the information I have given above, I wonder cautiously, how encouraged I should feel.
So, to the plain question; I wonder how encouraging being assessed on medical evidence without any further assessment is, paper assessment by HAAS only?
I’m not expecting a definitive answer as such,
Once my outcome is known, I would like to make a post with a time line, and what I have discovered in regard of UC113 and how these reports are made.
Kindest regards to all,
Nige 60
Long story, as I am sure many will recognise. I will attempt to shorten the scope to simply ask a plain question.
My health conditions are a complicated in broad range of psychological and physical issues, I am deaf, I have type 2 diabetes, hypertension and other age related issues (I’m 60) anxiety overload
I have been in the LCWRA (support) group before my savings went over the threshold, due to an inheritance, so my claim was closed in June 2023. Fast forward to July 2024, new claim made.
I was originally due a telephone WCA on 16th October 24, this was postponed due to a clerical error.
Rescheduled for 5th November 24, I has asked for appropriate assessment with an assessor familiar with serious psychological disorders, BPD in my case. I am also blessed with a significant amount of spine issues, Tethered Spinal Cord syndrome, lumbar spine and cervical spine degeneration and associated nerve impingements, chronic pain and daily acute pain issues.
More long and complicated descriptions aside.
My phone call on the 5th November, was basically, to inform me that due to evidences I had submitted in the form of Neurological and Psychological reports and a UC113 completed by my GP by hand, a paper assessment had been made and I would not need to have the telephone assessment. I recorded this call and had an advocate present for support.
I’m fully aware that no one can predict what the DWP will decide. Based solely on the information I have given above, I wonder cautiously, how encouraged I should feel.
So, to the plain question; I wonder how encouraging being assessed on medical evidence without any further assessment is, paper assessment by HAAS only?
I’m not expecting a definitive answer as such,
Once my outcome is known, I would like to make a post with a time line, and what I have discovered in regard of UC113 and how these reports are made.
Kindest regards to all,
Nige 60
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3 hours 51 minutes ago #296862 by David
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Hi Nige 60,
Hopefully you will regain your LCWRA status.
Do you know which of the four companies is doing the assessment- Maximus, Serco, Capita or Ingeus?
Looking forward to your feedback.
David
Hopefully you will regain your LCWRA status.
Do you know which of the four companies is doing the assessment- Maximus, Serco, Capita or Ingeus?
Looking forward to your feedback.
David
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3 hours ago #296863 by Nige 60
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Hi David. Serco processed my assessment. I will be very happy to make a post of my journey, regardless of outcome.
There is a significant issue with UC113 requested by HAAS/DWP. If a GP fills out the form as is sent to them, rather than a printed report from Patient Access/EMIS, a GP will have access to information that EMIS does not have.
In my case this has been an issue before in 2020 with housing, my psychiatrist intervened with a cogent report that made a huge difference, I was put straight into band 2.
Following a 2nd poor quality report, completely inappropriate in my case and I doubt if I am the only person effected. I would suggest to anyone/everyone to ask for you GP to complete your UC113, it should be free. However if you go as far as to insist your GP completes the UC113, this may incur a admin fee, I can only speculate.
I am sure that using Patient Access/EMIS is easy and convenient for our over worked GP’s and practice admin teams. However, the printed report has a declaration on it “There are no undisclosed conditions and no undisclosed symptoms on this form” The form is electronically signed by the person issuing the UC113.
In my case, this was completely inaccurate and all of my main health issues were entirely accent, until you read the notes of GP appointments. Some of the information is indeed there, but I’m going to refer to this as “the small print” and easily overlooked. The main form declaration of conditions said, “Conditions affecting ability to work; Type 2 diabetes”
No mention of Tethered Spinal Cord, lumbar and cervical disc disease, with significant degeneration at 4 levels of my lumbar and 3 levels of my cervical spine. No mention of my being deaf, no mention of BPD and the various facets of symptoms which are considered as severely effecting daily life. No mention of nerve damage in my legs and arms.
Anxious and agitated over the last 3 months, very dark, has impacted on hypertension, tacicardic on most BP tests, I do mine at home weekly due to some of my medication monitoring requirements.
Very long and complex story short, there is a serious issue with the UC113 and all patients should ask their GP to fill in the form personally or allow admin staff access to all records, they won’t do that.
I feel it is a gapping flaw in the process and I do want to sign post this issue, folks must do their own research and fight their own battles. It does help if we know what to ask of course, there are no silly questions where health is concerned
I have in fact shortened what I would like to say, because we'd be here a while!
Best regards,
Nige
There is a significant issue with UC113 requested by HAAS/DWP. If a GP fills out the form as is sent to them, rather than a printed report from Patient Access/EMIS, a GP will have access to information that EMIS does not have.
In my case this has been an issue before in 2020 with housing, my psychiatrist intervened with a cogent report that made a huge difference, I was put straight into band 2.
Following a 2nd poor quality report, completely inappropriate in my case and I doubt if I am the only person effected. I would suggest to anyone/everyone to ask for you GP to complete your UC113, it should be free. However if you go as far as to insist your GP completes the UC113, this may incur a admin fee, I can only speculate.
I am sure that using Patient Access/EMIS is easy and convenient for our over worked GP’s and practice admin teams. However, the printed report has a declaration on it “There are no undisclosed conditions and no undisclosed symptoms on this form” The form is electronically signed by the person issuing the UC113.
In my case, this was completely inaccurate and all of my main health issues were entirely accent, until you read the notes of GP appointments. Some of the information is indeed there, but I’m going to refer to this as “the small print” and easily overlooked. The main form declaration of conditions said, “Conditions affecting ability to work; Type 2 diabetes”
No mention of Tethered Spinal Cord, lumbar and cervical disc disease, with significant degeneration at 4 levels of my lumbar and 3 levels of my cervical spine. No mention of my being deaf, no mention of BPD and the various facets of symptoms which are considered as severely effecting daily life. No mention of nerve damage in my legs and arms.
Anxious and agitated over the last 3 months, very dark, has impacted on hypertension, tacicardic on most BP tests, I do mine at home weekly due to some of my medication monitoring requirements.
Very long and complex story short, there is a serious issue with the UC113 and all patients should ask their GP to fill in the form personally or allow admin staff access to all records, they won’t do that.
I feel it is a gapping flaw in the process and I do want to sign post this issue, folks must do their own research and fight their own battles. It does help if we know what to ask of course, there are no silly questions where health is concerned
I have in fact shortened what I would like to say, because we'd be here a while!
Best regards,
Nige
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47 minutes ago #296867 by David
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Hi Nige 60,
Are you saying that the GP cut and pasted sections from your Emis record to the UC113? Or did the GP use Emis to generate a report that was attached to the UC113? If it was auto-generated then that could be done by a receptionist/administrator.
David
Are you saying that the GP cut and pasted sections from your Emis record to the UC113? Or did the GP use Emis to generate a report that was attached to the UC113? If it was auto-generated then that could be done by a receptionist/administrator.
David
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