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10 years 1 day ago #134683 by teddybear581
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I had asked this question at the end of my post in another topic and asked to re submit it separately.
At my first assessment ,with aF2F interview I was given 4 point for mobility saying I needed "prompting" to go out, At my 2nd assessment,no F2F, I was given 0 points.
My question was
I am agoraphobic and suffer from panic attacks and anxiety and made sure they knew that CANNOT and NEVER go out without someone with me ,cannot travel on public transport etc. But they have decided that I can "plan and follow the route of a journey unaided .They say I have no "Functional restrictions" Do these mobility questions only apply if you have a physical disability?
thanks again xx
At my first assessment ,with aF2F interview I was given 4 point for mobility saying I needed "prompting" to go out, At my 2nd assessment,no F2F, I was given 0 points.
My question was
I am agoraphobic and suffer from panic attacks and anxiety and made sure they knew that CANNOT and NEVER go out without someone with me ,cannot travel on public transport etc. But they have decided that I can "plan and follow the route of a journey unaided .They say I have no "Functional restrictions" Do these mobility questions only apply if you have a physical disability?
thanks again xx
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10 years 1 day ago #134687 by Gordon
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Replied by Gordon on topic PIP mobility and Mental health
teddybear
The Moving Around Descriptor is a test of your physical ability to walking test however the Going Out test looks at primarily mental health or cognitive issues that would restrict a claimant planning a route, leaving there home and following that route.
Your other post says that you have a Daily Living award, did you score any points for the Mobility component or just not enough for an award? We have seen a lot of members only receive 2 points for this activity, recent DWP guidance has suggested that prompting and support are synonymous with each other, we fundamentally disagree with this position, see the PIP Claim guide for more details.
If you believe that you meet the criteria for a Mobility award then the only way forward for you is to challenge the Decision.
First you must realise that doing this opens up your Daily Living award to scrutiny, given that you have just been re-assessed and the same award made, the risk will be low but I cannot in all honesty state that it will be zero.
The first stage to challenging a Decision is for you to request a Mandatory Reconsideration, this needs to be done in writing to the DWP, within one month of the Decision, to the office that dealt with your claim, have a look at our PIP MR & Appeal guide for details of the process and template letters that you can use to make the request with.
www.benefitsandwork.co.uk/help-for-claimants/pip
You should contact the DWP for a copy of the assessment report if you have not already done so, I would phone them but again follow up the request in writing. Once you have the assessment report you will have a better understanding of how the DWP Decision Maker has come to their conclusions and will then be able to argue against them.
Your primary task is to show that you meet the criteria, there are many reasons you may have failed, you need to address each of these but don't get bogged down in criticising the assessment report unless you can clearly show that it is incorrect, it is a lot easier to argue the facts of the situation;
"the assessor recorded that I walked 50m, I did but they have failed to document that I had to stop every 10m for a rest due to breathlessness"
than their opinions
"based on my observations of the claimant walking I believe that they can reliably walk more than 200m.
When you have a better idea of the issues with your claim, come back to the forum and we will do our best to help.
Gordon
The Moving Around Descriptor is a test of your physical ability to walking test however the Going Out test looks at primarily mental health or cognitive issues that would restrict a claimant planning a route, leaving there home and following that route.
Your other post says that you have a Daily Living award, did you score any points for the Mobility component or just not enough for an award? We have seen a lot of members only receive 2 points for this activity, recent DWP guidance has suggested that prompting and support are synonymous with each other, we fundamentally disagree with this position, see the PIP Claim guide for more details.
If you believe that you meet the criteria for a Mobility award then the only way forward for you is to challenge the Decision.
First you must realise that doing this opens up your Daily Living award to scrutiny, given that you have just been re-assessed and the same award made, the risk will be low but I cannot in all honesty state that it will be zero.
The first stage to challenging a Decision is for you to request a Mandatory Reconsideration, this needs to be done in writing to the DWP, within one month of the Decision, to the office that dealt with your claim, have a look at our PIP MR & Appeal guide for details of the process and template letters that you can use to make the request with.
www.benefitsandwork.co.uk/help-for-claimants/pip
You should contact the DWP for a copy of the assessment report if you have not already done so, I would phone them but again follow up the request in writing. Once you have the assessment report you will have a better understanding of how the DWP Decision Maker has come to their conclusions and will then be able to argue against them.
Your primary task is to show that you meet the criteria, there are many reasons you may have failed, you need to address each of these but don't get bogged down in criticising the assessment report unless you can clearly show that it is incorrect, it is a lot easier to argue the facts of the situation;
"the assessor recorded that I walked 50m, I did but they have failed to document that I had to stop every 10m for a rest due to breathlessness"
than their opinions
"based on my observations of the claimant walking I believe that they can reliably walk more than 200m.
When you have a better idea of the issues with your claim, come back to the forum and we will do our best to help.
Gordon
Nothing on this board constitutes legal advice - always consult a professional about specific problems
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