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10 years 3 months ago - 10 years 3 months ago #128609 by micksville
ESA medicals used for pip was created by micksville
I'm preparing for ESA review later this year, currently in support group. I understand ESA medicals can have a bearing on pip etc. I'm currently on DLA hrm mrc. Though I'm not anticipating problems, I'm wondering what might happen should ESA medical be used to look again at my DLA? Obviously it would be dealt with as a reported change of circumstances and I'd be invited to claim pip. Question is, what would happen re:my dla payments in the interim. Would they cease or continue until a pip decision were made? Lastly, if for eg the ESA medical suggests the dla mobility is consistent with my condition but the care component in their opinion might be looked at again, would all dla payments cease or only the component in question? Fortunately this is only hypothetical at present but I'm trying to plan for every scenario just in case. My mobility issues wont be in question and my care component is quite solid as I receive it for various descriptors but given the things I've read re: the relentless drive to strip disabled people of entitlement by any means I would appreciate knowing what might happen to my dla payments in such a scenario, as opposed to merely being transfered to pip in due course.
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10 years 3 months ago #128619 by Gordon
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micksville

What we have seen is PIP and ESA reports being used in the making of Decisions, we have not seen (at least so far), as we did with ESA and DLA, one initiating a re-assessment of the other, so I think you have little to worry about.

If they were to initiate an assessment then your current DLA award would remain in payment until a Decision was made on any new PIP claim, I am assuming that you are in an active PIP postcode, otherwise you would be assessed for DLA again, your award would still remain in payment unless there were serious concerns about the validity of your existing claim.

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10 years 3 months ago #128626 by micksville
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Thanks Gordon. No my postcode isnt yet active so Im not expecting any chage for a long time yet. Just wanted to clarify things as so many underhand tactics are now being used by dwp it seems.
I'm not anticipating problems with the ESA assesment either but just thought Id better ask the question. Thanks again

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10 years 3 months ago - 10 years 3 months ago #128628 by micksville
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Sorry Gordon...a little more confused now having digested what you say. I understood that any reported change of your condition,be it by oneself, by someone else or by a dwp medical assesor would instigate an invitation to claim pip, regardless of the postcode region, rather than being assesed again for dla. Either way you seem to suggest current payments of dla would remain until a pip decision were made.Unless there were serious concerns re original dla award. Is that correct?
Again I dont forsee issues but given the niggardly manner the HCP's apparently employ in interpreting the rules and descriptors I just need to be aware of the possible outcomes
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10 years 3 months ago - 10 years 3 months ago #128630 by
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micksville wrote: Sorry Gordon...a little more confused now having digested what you say. I understood that any reported change of your condition,be it by oneself, by someone else or by a dwp medical assesor would instigate an invitation to claim pip, regardless of the postcode region, rather than being assesed again for dla. Either way you seem to suggest current payments of dla would remain until a pip decision were made.Unless there were serious concerns re original dla award. Is that correct?
Again I dont forsee issues but given the niggardly manner the HCP's apparently employ in interpreting the rules and descriptors I just need to be aware of the possible outcomes


Hi mv,

What Gordon is saying that in any transfer process over to PIP from DLA, (Disregarding a serious case of DLA fraud etc) DLA would remain in payment until 4 weeks after the date of any PIP Decision.

The reporting of a Change in Circumstances regarding a current DLA award, by you or anyone else, would only result in a review under PIP criteria if you were in an active PIP area.

If not in an active PIP Area, the review would be done under DLA criteria.

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10 years 3 months ago #128632 by Gordon
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micksville

New claims for PIP are live across the whole of the mainland, but transfers either due to an award ending or due to a Change of Circumstances are only occurring in active PIP postcodes, all other postcodes will result in the claimant being re-assessed for DLA. See

www.gov.uk/government/publications/pip-postcode-map-uk

For PIP transfers, claimants will continue to receive DLA, even if their award ends, until four weeks after a Decision on their PIP claim is made.

For DLA re-assessments the current rules apply.

Gordon

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