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ATOS "doctors" looking at hands for signs of work
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- Gordon
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I think the quote is meaningless unless looked at in the context of the Manual Dexterity Descriptors, also you have missed an important quote from the same paragraph.
but be careful to consider that the callosities may not necessarily represent recent manual work
From the same document
M(a) Cannot either:
(i) press a button, such as a telephone keypad or;
(ii) turn the pages of a book
with either hand.
M(b) Cannot pick up a £1 coin or equivalent with either hand.
M(c) Cannot use a pen or pencil to make a meaningful mark.
M(d) Cannot single-handedly use a suitable keyboard or mouse.
M(e) None of the above apply.
It is clear that the assessor is to look for signs of manual labour, specifically involving the use of the hands, in the recent past, such signs would suggest the claimant had good use of their hands up to that point and should then prompt an investigation as to what could then cause a loss of function e.g. an injury and whether this was supported by the medical evidence.
I'm afraid I don't see why this would be "picking on 'working people'"
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- James
Most of the prepared micro detailed evidence was completely uncalled for brushed aside and ignored.
THe Doctor seemed to be following their own pre conceived agenda ticking all boxes or not until they reached "WRAG",
Job done back to the golf course.
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Mark wrote: I had my reassement 2 weeks ago and at the end of the test I was asked to hold my hands out,turn them over,place them in my lap which I then received a small tap on my wrists with two fingers and a reflex hammer. also I was asked to squeeze the testers fingers, what this has to do with mental illness I will never know.
Even though a claimant may be attending the ESA assessment purely due mental health issues the assessor is still required to review their physical capabilities as well in order to provide a complete report for the DWP.
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Mark wrote: I had my reassement 2 weeks ago and at the end of the test I was asked to hold my hands out,turn them over,place them in my lap which I then received a small tap on my wrists with two fingers and a reflex hammer. also I was asked to squeeze the testers fingers, what this has to do with mental illness I will never know.
Perhaps it's to point out to the medical examiner about the differences between physical and mental disabilities, the medical person may tell you to hold your hands out, etc but the point is you could be physically able but it's knowing the definitions of mental and physical disabilities is the key here.
Mental disability is being aware of doing things without someone telling or prompting you to carry out a task, and remembering what you are meant to do even being prompt and told.
physical disability a person suffer from perhaps arthritis or worth, cannot lift thing due to weakness.
When I had my medical with Atos, I went all by myself, I suffer from panic attacks, anxieties and the rest, the examiner told me to read one of those eye test board you see at the Optician wearing my glasses, my vision is 20% without my glasses, I told him point blank why ask me to wear my glasses and read the eye test board of course I'm going to see.
My disabilities are panic attacks, anxiety etc, I didn't come here for my eye sight. of course I then suffered a full blown panic attack as he kept me way too long that I anticipated of staying in the medical room and that building, I did warn him I need to get out otherwise I will have a panic attack, in the end he had to calm me down telling me it's ok don't worry, I couldn't even get off the chair. I passed that medical first hand without hassle, I've yet to be call for another medical that was three years ago.
If they tell me to do thing which has nothing to do with my disabilities I soon tell them to read the definition of this or that disabilities they usually give up.

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