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10 years 10 months ago - 10 years 10 months ago #122858 by Jill
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We appealed my son's recent Pip award where he received the enhanced rate for daily living but no mobility component and had the result today. His award will now last for over 5 years instead of 2 but his mobility score remained at 4 points.

I have discovered that the DWP have made it much clearer about the descriptors for planning and following journeys. In their updated (May)Pip guide they state that if you need someone to be with you whenever you go out because of anxiety etc this will only be given 4 points and counted as needing prompting.

As my son can plan a journey but never leave the house on his own or use public transport this means he will never qualify for the mobility part of Pip,

I hope this is useful. Thanks for everyone's help in getting this far.
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Jill wrote: We appealed my son's recent Pip award where he received the enhanced rate for daily living but no mobility component and had the result today. His award will now last for over 5 years instead of 2 but his mobility score remained at 4 points.

I have discovered that the DWP have made it much clearer about the descriptors for planning and following journeys. In their updated (May)Pip guide they state that if you need someone to be with you whenever you go out because of anxiety etc this will only be given 4 points and counted as needing prompting.

As my son can plan a journey but never leave the house on his own or use public transport this means he will never qualify for the mobility part of Pip,

I hope this is useful. Thanks for everyone's help in getting this far.


Hi J,

Thanks for taking the time to post this information for our members. :)

For the benefit of other members, there is a copy of the latest PIP Guidance : Here, in our "PIP Information" topic thread at the top of the Spotlights Area above the forum.

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10 years 10 months ago #122878 by teabag
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I sympathise I have the same problem they say I only need prompting despite GP writing that I have agoraphobia and cant travel anywhere on my own or plan a journey i'm waiting for a mandatory reconsideration

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10 years 10 months ago - 10 years 10 months ago #122888 by Gordon
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Jill wrote: We appealed my son's recent Pip award where he received the enhanced rate for daily living but no mobility component and had the result today. His award will now last for over 5 years instead of 2 but his mobility score remained at 4 points.

I have discovered that the DWP have made it much clearer about the descriptors for planning and following journeys. In their updated (May)Pip guide they state that if you need someone to be with you whenever you go out because of anxiety etc this will only be given 4 points and counted as needing prompting.

As my son can plan a journey but never leave the house on his own or use public transport this means he will never qualify for the mobility part of Pip,

I hope this is useful. Thanks for everyone's help in getting this far.


Can you point us to the guidance that you are referring to please!

The 4 point Descriptor for PIP Mobility makes no reference to someone needing to be with the claimant when they go out, this is on the 10 point one.

a. Can plan and follow the route of a journey unaided. 0 points.
b. Needs prompting to be able to undertake any journey to avoid overwhelming
psychological distress to the claimant. 4 points.
c. Cannot plan the route of a journey. 8 points.
d. Cannot follow the route of an unfamiliar journey without another person, assistance dog or rientation aid. 10 points.
e. Cannot undertake any journey because it would cause overwhelming psychological
distress to the claimant. 10 points.
f. Cannot follow the route of a familiar journey without another person, an assistance dog or
an orientation aid. 12 points.


Prompting is very different from requiring someone to be with you.

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10 years 10 months ago #122905 by Jill
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It's on the bottom of page 113-114 of the PIP Assessment Guide May 2014, on this page: www.benefitsandwork.co.uk/help-for-claimants/pip

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10 years 10 months ago - 10 years 10 months ago #122906 by Gordon
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Jill wrote: It's on the bottom of page 113-114 of the PIP Assessment Guide May 2014, on this page: www.benefitsandwork.co.uk/help-for-claimants/pip


I think you may have misread the guidance.

For example: may apply to individuals who cannot due to their sensory or cognitive impairment work out where to go, follow directions or deal with unexpected changes in their journey when it is unfamiliar. It does not apply to claimants who require someone with them for support only, as this is covered by descriptor B. The accompanying person should be actively navigating for this descriptor to apply.


I have highlighted the key phrase.

This is the difference between the requirement for prompting and needing someone with you through out the journey, because you would not be able to leave the house without them.

Jill - I am going to bounce this one to the office, the more I look at this the more I agree with what you are saying.

Gordon

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