How do you think Labour will treat disabled claimants if, as seems increasingly likely, they form the next government?  Will they be better or worse than the Conservatives?

Last week’s Labour party manifesto left our readers divided on what the future might be like for disabled claimants under Labour.  The document made few references to benefits and gave no clues as to what its attitude would be to major issues such as ESA to UC migration, proposed Green paper changes to PIP or how exactly the WCA might be reformed.

Many readers felt that Labour was just being cautious, because any hint of being soft on claimants would be jumped on by the right-wing press.

Others thought that Labour were saying little because they do not have anything positive to say to disability benefits claimants.  Some think there is little difference between the two parties and some commentors even believe that Labour would be worse news for claimants than the Conservatives.

Certainly, the manifesto could have offered some hope to, for example Carer’s Allowance claimants. A change to the current cliff edge earnings limit would not have major cost implications.

And, to ensure claimant safety, Labour could have offered to look again at the very tight ESA to UC migration deadline imposed on the DWP by the Conservatives.  Delaying the transfer would not cost anything, given that it was previously delayed to 2028 to save money.

Labour could also have stated in the manifesto that they would look at the Green paper proposals for PIP, but that it was unlikely that a voucher system or a catalogue would play any part in any future plans.  Again, this would not have had cost implications.

None of these undertakings would have offered much in the way of ammunition to the right wing press, but all of them would have reassured claimants that Labour would give them some respite from the current relentless attacks.

On the other hand, no part of Labour’s plans include cutting benefits in order to raise cash for other purposes, such as tax cuts.

And, whilst they have said they will replace or reform the WCA, they have not suggested that they will reform PIP.

So, if benefits will play a major part in deciding who you will vote for, readers will have to make an educated guess as to what Labour might do based on minimal information.

Knowing what other claimants are thinking may be helpful in reaching a decision.

So, please take part in our poll to tell us whether you think life would be easier, harder or much the same under Labour rather than the Conservatives and, if you wish, give your reasons in the comments section below.

You can only vote once and we’ll publish the results on Monday 1 July.

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    Jim Heaney · 3 months ago
    I think labour will go ahead with the Tory green paper as they seem spineless. Starmer needs to speak up for the many on UC, ESA and PIP if he wants to secure our vote. Labour are too complacent as they basically know that they have already won the election then they can start the process of reneging on all their manifesto pledges. Someone needs to ask Sir Kier directly, What do you plan to do for the many disabled and working people dependant on UC and PIP? See if a couple of million peoples votes prick his ears up as the politicians seem to ignore the fact that a large amount of claimants and food bank users also work. Greens and Libdems seem to be the ones who have their eyes open to our plight!
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    Serenity4 · 3 months ago
    Sadly I remember New Labour & the devastation the government caused to social security paving the way for the coalition government & the cuts that followed. Also a glance at the front bench shows exactly the direction of the Conservative government will most likely be continued with Yvette Cooper who ignored warnings on the WCA, Rachel Reeves who previously stated that the party was not for those on welfare, Liz Kendall who backed abstaining on the Welfare Bill in 2015 & Keir Starmer who as DPP in 2013 pushed for increased sentences of benefit fraud which used to be classed & treated separately despite warnings from Citizens Advice that the system was too complex & claimants could be treated too harshly & Emily Thornberry who not only agreed with the plan by the DPP but thought the penalties should be even stronger. There is little detail in the manifesto precisely because they are going to continue the same policies as this existing government.
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    Bernadette · 3 months ago
    I agree with Mezzo8.  The Labour Party have already made it very clear what they think of pensioners, and are going to tax the state pension which is the lowest in Europe and people have paid in for all their working lives. The 3 muskateers (front facing) do not have a shred of compassion for any disabled people either. Starmer was in charge of the CPS where he will have put quite a few innocent people away based on assumptions, and oversaw the post office scandal, but his deputy Ms A Rayner involved in a police investigation was let off.  Politicians are never guilty of anything are they? 
     Labour or Conservative?  I may not vote but, better the devil you know.
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    Steph · 3 months ago
    Any party would be better then the Conservatives. I am really worried about the Tory's manifesto on benefits. Labour were better when they were in power. Eg they had a doctor assess whether people were fit to work.
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    K Lewis · 3 months ago
    I hope and pray that the Labour Party will behave like a true Labour Party should. They may be being cautious pre election. Let's hope so. I shall be livid if they don't help the vulnerable. Disability is not a lifestyle choice. They need to sort out the carer's allowance fiasco and treat PIP claimants as human beings and not scroungers. 
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    Chris · 3 months ago
    Why has this been moderated off the page? Are you a Tory MP or work for the DWP?

    We saw after 2010 the war against benefit claimants by Cameron and Osborne, with a heinous set of briefings to the press that created a mob within the general public who were led to believe that benefit claimants were to blame for their financial difficulties, rather than the financial crisis of 2008. The Tories have proven themselves to be truly despicable. It is no surprise to me that the exact same thing is happening now against disabled claimants since Cameron was brought back into government by Sunak. They are targeting the most vulnerable in society because they are an easy target that rarely have a voice, in order to try and use the money they would save to pay down the £400B spent during Covid. Benefit claimants were blamed before in order to excuse Tory Austerity for a decade. Now there's an even bigger Covid bill to pay down, they're up to the exact same dirty tricks. I don't believe Labour would behave in that disgusting way. However, they've not taken the opportunity in their manifesto to distance themselves from the Tories on benefits. So only time will tell. But we KNOW that the Tories will make the disabled pay the bill. At least we have a chance of hope with an alternative government. So I'll be voting tactically for the Lib Dems as Labour cannot win in my area. My advice to anyone who accesses this website for support is to do anything possible to get rid of the Tories!!
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      LuMar · 3 months ago
      @Chris Tbf this has to be moderated to ensure no party political stuff is posted up.  And I am glad if it. 
      Please don't be nasty to one of the few organisations actually working hard to help people like us.  
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    Chris · 3 months ago
    We saw after 2010 the war against benefit claimants by Cameron and Osborne, with a heinous set of briefings to the press that created a mob within the general public who were led to believe that benefit claimants were to blame for their financial difficulties, rather than the financial crisis of 2008. The Tories have proven themselves to be truly despicable. It is no surprise to me that the exact same thing is happening now against disabled claimants since Cameron was brought back into government by Sunak. They are targeting the most vulnerable in society because they are an easy target that rarely have a voice, in order to try and use the money they would save to pay down the £400B spent during Covid. Benefit claimants were blamed before in order to excuse Tory Austerity for a decade. Now there's an even bigger Covid bill to pay down, they're up to the exact same dirty tricks. I don't believe Labour would behave in that disgusting way. However, they've not taken the opportunity in their manifesto to distance themselves from the Tories on benefits. So only time will tell. But we KNOW that the Tories will make the disabled pay the bill. At least we have a chance of hope with an alternative government. So I'll be voting tactically for the Lib Dems as Labour cannot win in my area. My advice to anyone who accesses this website for support is to do anything possible to get rid of the Tories!!
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    Ms White · 3 months ago
    Many promises from politicians. Lost trust in them. Labour will say anything to get in. I have little trust in them either. I shall not be voting Labour. 
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    MicheleB9 · 3 months ago
    I remember when Labour were in power and back then my husband applied for DLA.  We had an assessment visit from a Doctor who lied on the form.  They said my husband could get up from his armchair with no difficulty - he said my husband's eyesight was fine.  My husband had severe sight impairment but the doctor wouldn't know that because he didn't do an eyesight test nor ask him about it. We didn't own any armchairs because my husband couldn't use them.
    The result was my husband was denied DLA.  Back then we knew very little about our rights and were just upset and shocked and we gave up.
    When my husband applied many years later for PIP when the Tories came in - he actually had a better time of it and was awarded Standard Daily Living and Enhanced Mobility.
    I on the other hand got zero points and had to go to Tribunal where I was awarded Standard and Enhanced Mobility.
    I think it doesn't make much difference to the actual claims and results who is in power.  But maybe the hatred and discrimination might be less with Labour. I hope they will make fewer inflammatory pronouncements and encourage the population to comply with the Equality Act 2010.  But I am not confident that will happen.
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    Robbo · 3 months ago
    Only because labour I think will be more supportive to people with disability’s to be fair I don’t trust them they are not the Labour Party I knew they have become a watered down version of the Tory party but am just hoping if elected they won’t be has harsh has the Tory’s are but I won’t be holding me breath 
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    P Conley · 3 months ago
    Sorry but I think both conservatives and labour don’t give a dam  about disabled people. And Especially the Tory’s. Can’t say what labour will do regarding pip But remember who ever is in power should be working for the people we are the one’s who put them in office.And any one at anytime can become disabled.  This conservative government are removing pip and will cut benefits because they need the money to fund a war and use on other things. That doesn’t benefit our people. I’m sure . Labour will carry on with Tory policy’s . And probably keep people in poverty. And cut more benefits. If they can. 
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    Piggymitch · 3 months ago
    Reeves and Kendall have made plenty of worrying statements in the past on this matter.Add to this Streeting's rabid support for more private involvement in the NHS and you've got a pretty good idea of the direction of travel. If Labour really care about the suffering endured by the sick,poor and disabled over the past fourteen years,they will set up an enquiry into the Tories' policies,along the lines of current post office investigation,summoning Osborne,IDS,Cameron et al to account for their cruel disregard of the vulnerable.
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    Steve K · 3 months ago
    Although it would be quite an achievement to be actually worse that the damned Conservatives, I have absolutely no confidence that Labour will really help disabled claimants. Maybe it would be different if Corbyn was their leader, but then our media would make sure Labour lost the election once again.
    I truely wish I had cause to think Labour would be better than just watered-down Tories, but I haven't.
    I shall vote Green again.
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      LuMar · 3 months ago
      @Steve K Agreed.  Last election I felt some hope.  It's been bleak ever since.  
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    Hilary Morrison · 3 months ago
    Disability benefits are seen as an easy target. My son’s PIP review was submitted in January and we’ve been told we should hear by end of November. Nothing has changed in his needs but when they keep changing criteria, we are just left stressing for virtually a year and they wonder why so many disabled people have anxiety and depression!! 
    I would love mps to come and spend a week in my house and on the money we have and see how they cope
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    Kath · 3 months ago
    I wrote to the Labour candidate here in Dorset and directly asked what Labour propose to do about PIP as Sunak is determined to take it off us.  I told her that I have a hidden disability and that a catalogue of 'things' is totally no use to me.  She replied but all she said was that Labour's view is that they will be helping people back to work and to make it pay to work.  I refuse to vote for Sunak or his lackies.  Seems we are in between a rock and a hard place
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    Beverley Chew · 3 months ago
    Labour is as bad as Conservative I don't trust anyone no more. All it is forcing disable people to suffer and be stressed out worrying if they will have any money at all. They don't give a monkey about disabled people. So sorry I don't trust anyone 
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    Mezzo8 · 3 months ago
    They must be going to be at least as harsh as the Tories or they would be crowing about what they are going to do to help people with disabilities.
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    Helen C · 3 months ago
    Labour have turned light blue.  They are not socialists any more.  I don't believe they will treat us any better than the Conservatives have, so I will be voting Green or Lib Dem.
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      Timewarp · 3 months ago
      @Craig (pseudonym) Unfortunately, once they attain a (possibly large) majority in the Commons, they really couldn't care less what protests or pleadings there are.
      The mass-media, part of the same political establishment as the big Parties, will obligingly "disappear" such dissent. 
      Most of the public will go on what the media tells them .... remember how many DWP press-releases attacking the disabled were, without attribution of true source, unquestioningly published throughout the media as if they were genuine, investigated "news" reports.   
      So confident of non-exposure, they barely altered any of the wording ..... there the attacks and lies were, blatantly side by side on the newspaper stands in most of the papers on the same days -- and all the Starmer gang did was swear that they'd be harsher still.
      Nothing has since changed for the better, nor is it likely to under what calls itself "Labour".
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      Craig (pseudonym) · 3 months ago
      @Helen C I will be tactically voting Labour to get my local Tory MP out of office. If I lived in Keir Starmer's constituency, which is in Central London, I would indeed vote him out and still have a Labour party majority.

      I'm a disabled person, and on benefits, me having spending money has nothing to do with 'sponging off the state', I need it because I'm unable to work due to my hidden disability. Little do they know that a slice of the money I spend goes back to the Treasury as I pay VAT and other duties when I buy products or services from a business.

      I know that the Labour party is far from perfect, but we have to wait and see after the general election. I'm also worried about losing my ESA because of the hyped-up Universal Credit transfers made by the potential outgoing Tory government. There's no guarantee for a 'breathing space' once Labour gets into Number 10 Downing Street.

      Once they get the majority in the Commons, that is the time to put pressure on the Labour government. Disability campaign groups do need to put pressure on the Labour affiliates, such as the general secretaries of the affiliated trade unions, as they need to put pressure on Keir Starmer and the Labour government.
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    Metalgod · 3 months ago
    As we don't know Labour's stance on p.i.ps etc then it's hard to vote on it I believe they will be less harsh than conservative but not alot so some will feel happy some not we really need the British public to move away from the two big parties ?? And not act like sheep towards them 
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    Kath Gillett · 3 months ago
    Labour will take a more compassionate view of the struggles of disabled people.and the link between disability and poverty. I believe they will co.produce policy with DDPOs. 
    I intend to hold Labour to account.  If I had a Labour MP I would hold them to account. 
    I do agree that Labour have had to be extremely cautious in order not to give the right wing media and other parties a field day in calling them profligate.with benefits.

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