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2 days 12 hours ago #313736 by Hughie
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Hi. I know the forum is mainly in regard to PIP, UC and ESA, but I am hoping I can be given some sound information on Attendance Allowance. A very good friend of mine turned 66 years old last week April 23rd. He has arthritis in multiple joints and a number of other issues. He has been at this level for a number of years, but has always tried to be positive and just "get on with it." However, he decided to apply for Attendance Allowance as he is the right age to do so. When he rang for a pack the adviser asked his age and he said it was his 66th birthday. She then said when he was due his state pension. he told her that he was going to receive an initial payment on June 2nd and then his first full payment on June 30th. The adviser then told him he can only apply when he has received his first pension payment. My friend told her she was wrong, and the criteria is strictly when a claomant reached 66 years of age, but he was told by the adviser that "this is the advice I have been told to tell people when they ring." He still insited the pack was sent out, and although it has not yet arrived, I am wondering if there has been a change of eligibility criteria, and if not, then surely the DWP need pulling in line over this. Have I missed some official announcment, or is this adviser simply wrong?
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11 hours 1 minute ago #313750 by LL26
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Hi Hughie,
AA is a benefit for people with disabilities who are over state pension age. Working on the date of birth as 23 April 1960, using the gov UK calculator (which is linked on the AA gov.uk page) this creates a pension age at 66 years and 1 month. Hence your friend isn't eligible for AA quite yet.
This is a thought, and something to think about. Because your friend is still under SPAge then he could claim PIP. However he would have to act quickly to get the initial claim in. My understanding is as long as the initial phone claim is made now, it won't matter if the claim isn't decided upon until after SPAge.
On the rationale that many elderly people have mobility issues, AA does not have a mobility component. However PIP does. If your friend has both mobility and daily living problems then PIP will provide for these. If a PIP claim is made now (irrespective of when it's decided, which would also include any appeal on the original decision,) then PIP can continue after SPAge, without a need to change to AA. Whilst a daily living award can be upgraded at any stage after SPAge, mobility awards can't be increased beyond the original award, (unless an appeal is being made relating to the original award.)
Here are the possible scenarios
Disability increases and DWP are asked to consider revising their decision. The phone call or other contact is made
A. Under SPAge - both daily living and mobility awards can be increased/made as the contact was made whilst under SPAge
B. over SPAge only daily living award can be increased. This could be from standard to enhanced level OR if only mobility award is in place prior to SPAge a new daily living award can also be made
C. Over SPAge already receiving standard mobility - mobility needs increase . Standard only mobility award is possible. Mobility award can not now be increased.
D. Over SPAge - already have a daily living award.but no previous mobility problems and/or mobility award. Now have mobility needs. - no mobility award can be made after SPAge.
Hence there may be an advantage to claim PIP NOW if friend has mobility needs and is eligible to receive either standard or enhanced mobility. It friend has no mobility problems then claiming PIP or AA will have the same monetary values according to the relevant. level. There are different tests. Obviously with PIP you need to show sufficient disability across the descriptor activities. For as it's all about the amount of care received, but this could include supervision, monitoring health, as well as help with any necessary action that improves bodily function eg sleep, moving, eating, seeing (including reading,) speaking, hearing, thinking, understanding etc. So, depending on the claimant's needs AA might be easier to prove than PIP, or maybe vice versa.
But PIP MUST be claimed now to take advantage of the mobility award which won't be available under either AA or PIP after 23 May.
I hope this helps.
LL26
AA is a benefit for people with disabilities who are over state pension age. Working on the date of birth as 23 April 1960, using the gov UK calculator (which is linked on the AA gov.uk page) this creates a pension age at 66 years and 1 month. Hence your friend isn't eligible for AA quite yet.
This is a thought, and something to think about. Because your friend is still under SPAge then he could claim PIP. However he would have to act quickly to get the initial claim in. My understanding is as long as the initial phone claim is made now, it won't matter if the claim isn't decided upon until after SPAge.
On the rationale that many elderly people have mobility issues, AA does not have a mobility component. However PIP does. If your friend has both mobility and daily living problems then PIP will provide for these. If a PIP claim is made now (irrespective of when it's decided, which would also include any appeal on the original decision,) then PIP can continue after SPAge, without a need to change to AA. Whilst a daily living award can be upgraded at any stage after SPAge, mobility awards can't be increased beyond the original award, (unless an appeal is being made relating to the original award.)
Here are the possible scenarios
Disability increases and DWP are asked to consider revising their decision. The phone call or other contact is made
A. Under SPAge - both daily living and mobility awards can be increased/made as the contact was made whilst under SPAge
B. over SPAge only daily living award can be increased. This could be from standard to enhanced level OR if only mobility award is in place prior to SPAge a new daily living award can also be made
C. Over SPAge already receiving standard mobility - mobility needs increase . Standard only mobility award is possible. Mobility award can not now be increased.
D. Over SPAge - already have a daily living award.but no previous mobility problems and/or mobility award. Now have mobility needs. - no mobility award can be made after SPAge.
Hence there may be an advantage to claim PIP NOW if friend has mobility needs and is eligible to receive either standard or enhanced mobility. It friend has no mobility problems then claiming PIP or AA will have the same monetary values according to the relevant. level. There are different tests. Obviously with PIP you need to show sufficient disability across the descriptor activities. For as it's all about the amount of care received, but this could include supervision, monitoring health, as well as help with any necessary action that improves bodily function eg sleep, moving, eating, seeing (including reading,) speaking, hearing, thinking, understanding etc. So, depending on the claimant's needs AA might be easier to prove than PIP, or maybe vice versa.
But PIP MUST be claimed now to take advantage of the mobility award which won't be available under either AA or PIP after 23 May.
I hope this helps.
LL26
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