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5 days 17 hours ago #302632 by glimpy123
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If, after receiving a migration letter from ESA to UC, you decide not to apply, will your Contribution ESA still transfer over to New Style or will you remain on the old Contribution ESA?
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5 days 17 hours ago #302635 by David
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Hi glimpy123
In that case you will remain on the old Contributions Based ESA.
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In that case you will remain on the old Contributions Based ESA.
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5 days 15 hours ago #302639 by glimpy123
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Thank you for your reply which differs from a discussion on the Scope website:
forum.scope.org.uk/discussion/123059/dec...port%20all%20changes.
Is poppy123456 wrong? On page 2, he/she says that an answer you gave is unreliable!
forum.scope.org.uk/discussion/123059/dec...port%20all%20changes.
Is poppy123456 wrong? On page 2, he/she says that an answer you gave is unreliable!
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5 days 15 hours ago #302642 by David
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Hi Glimpy123
I think Poppy in the other Forum is mistaken. Ask her where in the UC Regs of 2013 does it dictate the process for the automatic change to New Style ESA for Conts Based ESA claimants who decline to claim UC and who ignore the Managed Migration notice?
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I think Poppy in the other Forum is mistaken. Ask her where in the UC Regs of 2013 does it dictate the process for the automatic change to New Style ESA for Conts Based ESA claimants who decline to claim UC and who ignore the Managed Migration notice?
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5 days 14 hours ago #302651 by glimpy123
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Hi David,
I am not a member of the Scope forum but have just seen the following:
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The process for the automatic change to New Style ESA for Conts Based ESA claimants who decline to claim UC and ignore the Managed Migration notice is not explicitly detailed in the Universal Credit (UC) Regulations of 2013, but rather in the Universal Credit (Managed Migration Pilot and Miscellaneous Amendments) Regulations 2019. These regulations, which address managed migration, outline that claimants who ignore the migration notice and don't claim UC will have their legacy benefits, including ESA, stopped and may be transitioned to New Style ESA. “
Have you any thoughts on this? It does say “Generative AI is experimental.”
I am not a member of the Scope forum but have just seen the following:
“AI Overview
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The process for the automatic change to New Style ESA for Conts Based ESA claimants who decline to claim UC and ignore the Managed Migration notice is not explicitly detailed in the Universal Credit (UC) Regulations of 2013, but rather in the Universal Credit (Managed Migration Pilot and Miscellaneous Amendments) Regulations 2019. These regulations, which address managed migration, outline that claimants who ignore the migration notice and don't claim UC will have their legacy benefits, including ESA, stopped and may be transitioned to New Style ESA. “
Have you any thoughts on this? It does say “Generative AI is experimental.”
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5 days 4 hours ago #302671 by David
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Hi glimpy123
The way AI like Deepseek and ChatGpt work is to gather text from hundreds of sources some of which may be inaccurate.
The DWP is NOT sending out Managed Migration notices to people only in receipt of Contributions Based ESA. So therefore there is no forced move to New Style ESA.
Also to get New Style ESA you have to agree to a Claimant Commitment or else you get nothing.
So the incorrect argument being posited would mean that all existing Conts Based ESA only claimants would have their claims closed unless they agreed with the Jobcentre agent to the Claimant Commitment. This is not happening. Existing Conts Based only ESA claimants are not being invited into the Jobcentre under threat of claim closure. You are only being invited if you receive a Legacy Benefit.
The Managed Migration notice lists the Legacy Benefits which are going to be closed.
I have not seen one that just lists Conts Based ESA (because it isn't a Legacy Benefit )Have you?
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The way AI like Deepseek and ChatGpt work is to gather text from hundreds of sources some of which may be inaccurate.
The DWP is NOT sending out Managed Migration notices to people only in receipt of Contributions Based ESA. So therefore there is no forced move to New Style ESA.
Also to get New Style ESA you have to agree to a Claimant Commitment or else you get nothing.
So the incorrect argument being posited would mean that all existing Conts Based ESA only claimants would have their claims closed unless they agreed with the Jobcentre agent to the Claimant Commitment. This is not happening. Existing Conts Based only ESA claimants are not being invited into the Jobcentre under threat of claim closure. You are only being invited if you receive a Legacy Benefit.
The Managed Migration notice lists the Legacy Benefits which are going to be closed.
I have not seen one that just lists Conts Based ESA (because it isn't a Legacy Benefit )Have you?
David
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