ADVICE ON PIP 1 AND 2 AND MED EVIDENCE PAST DLA

I have just been looking at the PIP claim procedure, in the initial claim PP1 1 it states if a existing claim for DLA medical evidence can be used by the DWP then the box should be ticked?

I am confused (no being assessed yet) but if a previous DLA claim was paid HR CARE AND MED MOBILITY, Then how can they possibly use the same evidence from that claim and deny a claim, for indefinite from a previous DLA, when transiting onto the new PIP at stage 2, when they are seeking how the condition affects the claimant?

I AM just confused and annoyed that they will put my husband through all the trauma again, when they in fact have all the evidence on file in the DLA claim?

Please can I also be advised if, the assessment can be refused over the phone and we can ask for a home visit? as my husband neither speaks on the phone or will travel to their medical offices due to his ongoing condition?

Hi kkj,

"I am confused (no being assessed yet) but if a previous DLA claim was paid HR CARE AND MED MOBILITY, Then how can they possibly use the same evidence from that claim and deny a claim, for indefinite from a previous DLA, when transiting onto the new PIP at stage 2, when they are seeking how the condition affects the claimant?"

I am afraid that there is a simple answer here, The PIP qualifying criteria is totally different to that of DLA !

A few examples of this :

Qualifying for PIP is points based, DLA was not.

The benchmark distance used for HR Mobility was 50 metres, for ER Mobility PIP it is 20 metres.

You really need to provide your own evidence with The PIP 2 Form, when you receive it.

"Please can I also be advised if, the assessment can be refused over the phone and we can ask for a home visit? as my husband neither speaks on the phone or will travel to their medical offices due to his ongoing condition? "

The phone call is to give "basic information" and is used to fill in The PIP 1 Form.

It is not the full assessment, that will take place using the PIP 2 Form after you return that and may or may not include a face to face consultation, depending on whether or not you can provide enough information in the PIP 2 for them to make a paper based assessment without the need of a face to face.

If your husband cannot speak on the phone, you can contact them, inform them of this, and ask them whether they can send the PIP 1 Form for him/you to fill in at home and return to them by any deadline date that they provide.

If your husband is unable to travel to a face to face assessment, (if one is deemed necessary) you should inform them in writing along with the PIP 2 Form, giving reasons.

It would help if he can obtain a letter supporting this from his G.P., which should also be attached to your written notification.

They do carry our assessments in the claimant's home.

You need to refer to our : PIP Claims Guide. (2nd Link down the page) which guides you through the DLA to PIP process.

See also : PIP Self Test

&

Personal independence payment (PIP) points scores.

bro58

Just as a postscript to Bro's excellent advice - the whole point of the switch to PIP is to save money from the benefits bill. It is entirely likely that people who were, quite correctly, on DLA will , also correctly according to the new rules, not qualify for PIP or qualify for a lower award We hope to give you the best chance of getting the award you need and deserve.

Thank you so much for that clarification, AS I would have just ticked the box for them to use the previous medical reports, so in your opinions this would not be of assistance, should I still confirm they can use the past DLA reports or just use the new claim in its entirety, and then pull the previous DLA - if it should go to appeal? or would this then be denied as part of the new claim for PIP or the appeal?

I can confirm I WILL obtain relevant medical letters to confirm my husbands illness to attend a Med interview etc, as I am his appointee and the DLA write to me, in regards his entitlements.

I am very grateful for the detailed response from Bro58 and Mrs Hurtyback!

THIS GOVERNMENT IS HELL BENT ON KILLING SUICIDAL PEOPLE JUST TO WIN VOTES - THIS IS DISGRACEFUL, WHAT IS THE COUNTRY COMMING TO WHEN THOSE WHO are certified as medically sick, are hounded and pushed to beg for their entitlements?

As far as Austerity goes, what about the people who caused this mess, we are now facing!! I bet they don't have to cut their entitlements - or have to prove through medical after medical and then appeal that they are entitled to what they have already confirmed is a illness!!

DIGRACEFUL MR CAMERON - what a joke!!

Thank you Gordon

will repost when dreaded forms are sent to us.